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yea and said he only didnt draft him because he had Peyton....ok...but you pass on the next great QB 5 times just because you already have a starter???? No, you at least take him for a quality backup or trade bait lol...crazy old man

Well Rodgers was drafted in the 20s of the first round - so technically being middle of the pack would certainly allow us to draft Rodgers. : ) You have to identify your guy and pull the trigger

Not saying they won't move on from Tyrod - but I have the opposite take. Technically the bills only need to make an announcement/make a big deal out of it if they are going to cut Tyrod. They can technically do nothing up until and past march 11th, they don't need to do anything to keep Tyrod except let the time run out. He's already under contract. They don't even need to sign their names on anything.

Ryan Groy, not Goy Overall it seems like a reasonable plan, however, its easy to say "sign so and so, mid level replacement" while jettisoning our guys. I'm just not sure those "cheaper" guys are out there in abundance at all of those positions. We need to spend resources (money and draft) on safety this offseason....and agreed a real upgrade at RT will do wonders with the line, running game and passing game

The patriots (again) (still). With Brady playing another 15 years I see them as the next dynasty.

I won't lie, one point I was on board with hooker/Adams if they were available. But fret not, I am past that point now. I would def like Davis or Williams (in that order), or franchise QB if they decide to move on from Tyrod (or even if they don't honestly) if they identify one they are sold on. Maybe if Allen falls to us he would be a good option. Rueben foster intrigues me too. There are a lot of options at our pick to improve the team immediately or long term (QB).

Absolutely agree with this. now back to prospects!!

Great response but it didn't address the question I posed to Bill, who stated that DE edge rushers and tweeners win games for teams. You talked about branch and his run stuffing and interior pressure changing the game (I'm glad he had a good game but that's not why the Pats won) and that's great, but branch is neither an edge rushing DE nor a tweener And I do agree with you about the first round pick. IF our FO and staff think there is a QB in this draft that can Be franchise material - I'm more than OK with them taking him at 10.

id be fond of something exotic....Ruby Red? Lime Green?

perfect...prime example, and he does it often. LOL at the haters.

Which pass rushing DE/tweener won big games for the Patriots? Falcons? Packers? Steelers? Hmmmm....cant really think of any. I can, however, think of great QB play that won those teams games. I agree with the heart of what your saying though, I think. We need to get better on the right side of our o-line. I just think there are other avenues to do that while still identifying your franchise QB (if its not Tyrod)

You must have watched about 4 youtube clips then...watch the full games and you will see plenty of him standing in the pocket and going away from primary reads. You will also see plenty of him "throwing WRs open" - everyones favorite knock against Tyrod. The kid can straight throw, mechanics be damned. All in on the Mahomes train, CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOO!

yea when teams started blitzing and getting pressure on Wentz he crumbled...just like the knock on him coming out said. Goff/Wentz are bums. I would take Mahomes/Trubisky over either of them today - knowing they are projects

fair enough...we will have to disagree about Gilmore's worth to this defense

yo, PREACH!

Running zone schemes allows you to have average corners because they are only asked to cover areas instead of staying with a man. Gilmore does very well in man coverage, but he wont be asked to do that under McDermotts scheme...this is why historically, Jim Johnson and then McDermott have got great production from otherwise average DBs. Im not saying we need to replace Gilmore with someone as good, or someone worse, I'm saying we can get away with replacing him with someone DIFFERENT because scheme will allow it. I am sure Gilmore COULD succeed in McDermotts scheme, but we don't have a need to pay him to do so when we can get someone else to do it. Is Richard Sherman being paid to be a cover 2 CB? Is Patrick Peterson a cover 2 CB? There's no need to pay top dollar to a CB if your running a zone In an ideal world I would love to have Gilmore, regardless of system. This isnt an ideal world and if we want to upgrade the many needs we have, we could be better served spending that 14 million next year on other guys...like in the areas you suggest we need to spend resources on. If letting Gilmore go means we get a CB (cheaper guy who can be plugged into zone coverage), RT help, safety help or WR help...im in with that plan. Carolina's D had a lot more problems than just letting Norman walk. I also don't know why you state "we are already pretty much on board with taking a QB high" - that might end up being the case but as of now, I don't see where you are drawing that conclusion from. As of now we have TT as the QB which wouldn't necessarily mean we have to draft a QB high.

glad you don't understand, but thanks for responding the point was, we don't know what the play is designed to do...there are literally plays where the call is something like this..."pre snap read tells you to look left side of the field (the 1 on 1 matchup/no safety help/zone soft spots) and if those options are covered, get what you can"...sometimes they call those plays that would not allow the other side of the field to be looked at because of protection calls, or to limit possibility of turnovers.. I know he misses guys that are wide open, that is fact. What is also fact is that we don't know EVERY INSTANCE of why those guys are being missed. What is also fact is all NFL QBs miss open guys...the NFL is hard, and playing QB is the hardest. Again though, fine with moving on from TT, also fine with keeping him...whatever the staff thinks will get the job done.

totally different corners, Norman and Gilmore...Norman excelled in McDermotts scheme, Gilmore has never even whiffed a zone scheme like that. Cover corners get paid, Zone corners can be found cheap/created...no thanks to 14 mill a year. If we were staying in man coverage then hell yea Gilmore is worth it.

I know how they compare based on previous conversations with you... I dont want to re-sign Gilmore, not based on talent, but based on team needs. McDermott has gotten great production from less than stellar corners previously....he also will likely run a zone, which doesn't require good cover man skills like Gilmore has. Why not let him walk, sign a cheap replacement who is good at zone coverage already, and use the money elsewhere? Gilmore is a luxury for us right now...id rather fill some necessities

Good work Bandit, gracias. Best outcome of this draft, for me, regardless of what we do with TT....is take whatever impact / play maker we see fit in round 1 (preferably a WR or OJ Howard) and then draft Mahomes in round 2. I just dont think he lasts until then, but as I said...ideal situation.

and through those all-22, did little captions come up that said "in this play call, it was designed as a half field read to the left based on pre-snap indicators" and the open WRs you saw were on the right side instead? The all-22 is great, and I watch them myself (in addition to being at home games and seeing guys wide open as well) - but it does not tell the entire story... Im not defending TT, at this point I truly dont care who is at QB next year, I just hope this staff and FO makes the RIGHT decision on the position moving forward...ill defer to their judgement because they have all the information and know a hell of a lot more about football than any of us fans

much obliged, thanks

he was quoting a mock draft I believe...so it isnt that he necessarily believes we are rebuilding, its just what the mocker (who likely knows nothing about the Bills) thinks we are in rebuild mode rebuild mode usually happens when the team fires its head coach, switches offense/defense system, is drafting in the top 10 and needs a new starting QB - the bills have almost all of those boxes checked off, and if we jettison Tyrod we will have all of those boxes checked off....so an argument COULD be made, especially from an outsiders point of view, that we are in rebuild mode

Not attacking you so please don't take this that way.... You keep saying "the coaching staff saw progress throughout the year"...but do you have any evidence of this? Was this said it press conferences? Interviews? I was pretty in tune with those and only ever heard them specifically say that he was really struggling and then some source said he couldn't even handle running the practice squad (I cannot recall for the life of me where that report came from but I specifically remember it was from a reliable source). I know, and you don't give most bills fans credit - at least the fans I know and interact with - that he was drafted as a raw project with no hope of seeing the field for 1-3 years, but I was disheartened by the lack of progress alllllll year from cardale. So, if you could shed some light on where you had been hearing of actual progress that would make me feel better. Thanks in advance.

Gunner, great work...obvious you put in a lot of time and thank you! I have watched every 2016 game from both Mahomes and Watson (the only two QBs I would even want the Bills to draft)...and have slightly differing opinions than some things you mentioned. Mahomes - you nail a lot of his negatives, "slingy"/atrocious footwork, but you say he does NOT throw guys open but instead waits for them to be open like Tyrod? I couldn't disagree more here. In all of those games mentioned there are more than a handful of passes where he does exactly that and throws a dart to a spot that his WR has to get to...thats throwing guys open... Also, I thought he did a great job keeping his eyes downfield when the pocket collapsed. Granted, he was scrambling legit like 70% of the time because his line was puke, so I'm sure sometimes he was in survival mode, but there are also plenty of times he makes incredible plays because he is keeping his eyes downfield. Interesting you did not watch the WVU game, which was not quite a train wreck for him, but it was not a good showing against a pretty GREAT D...he did make some great decisions/throws/plays, but it was a really rough start to that game for him which worries me. Watson - he is a gamer. he makes some great plays. I don't see him throwing guys open like you did, at least not as the rule (maybe the exception). I see a lot of "lazy balls" that get picked all day in the NFL. He doesn't have a weak arm, it seems like he just makes some bad decisions/throws where he lobs the ball up in the air to his WR (Mike Williams a lot of the time) and lets him attempt to make a play...and not in a good way where he places it only so his WR can get it. I could see him continuing this in the NFL and throw 20+ picks. I am torn on Watson...I like his leadership, work ethic, personality, decision making (spread offense so it should be good)...but I cannot get over a lot of these balls that just hang in the air and look to be sure INTs....thoughts?