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right, but what you "pointed out" was a bunch of nothingness. I asked a different poster what Shady supposedly has "spouted off" about in the past and then since has "matured" and "learned his lessons". Shady is the same guy hes always been. Passionate. Emotional. Great team mate. Motivated. I propose HE has not changed at all, but its Bills fans who have changed their attitude about him. Some people were so salty about Shady not wanting to be traded (DUH! Why would he want to leave the only state he has ever played football in his entire life, to go to a team mired in bad football for 20 years?) that they never gave him a chance...and always looked for his faults, even though he has done nothing but be the ultimate professional since he has arrived here. Good on Bills fans for finally realized what a Gem Shady is and always has been.

There is no working on what he suffers from, "baby-arm-itis". He is what he is, weak. It wont improve. He needs to be cut.

I too would love that dream, but I cannot see how Nelson would ever last to us. He just screams freakin' Hall of Fame

To all in this thread comparing Jackson/Watson...Let me remind you, Watson still has done nothing in the NFL. Did he play like 5 games really well? Absolutely, so did Trent Edwards. I would suggest waiting to see how he actually develops as a QB before labelling him a success or not/labelling yourself correct or not

Oh woah, didnt know any of this background about the guy lol...I guess it isnt surprising he doesnt like Shady for some reason and then told me to "Blow him" when I legitimately asked what Shadys off field issues were

I think he was more taking objection to your crass "blow me" comment...

wow, a little touchey eh? My wife gets that way too when shes menstruating You are allowed to have dissenting opinions, hence why I was asking about what what off field issues you personally saw with Shady

agreed, they have the best articles. Here is one of my favorite, from a NHL official...great inside info https://www.theplayerstribune.com/2016-6-7-kerry-fraser-nhl-referee-stories/ Another great hockey one is from John Scott, talking about hating to fight as an NHL enforcer and his all star situation https://www.theplayerstribune.com/john-scott-retirement/ GREAT articles

the fact that he doesnt have one?

- his pointed comments about Philly and Kelly where he said Kelly belonged in college ball and hinted he might be racist? OK....hes a human and allowed to have that view point, it didnt distract him or our team. I dont see this as spouting off his mouth at all - I would personally prefer a girls only party, that makes him a boss..still not seeing this as spouting off - He was involved in an incident with an off duty police officer at a night club, was cleared of any wrong doing...where is he spouting off about that? - who wouldnt be amped up to play the only other team who he ever played for and traded him? - who cares about his off field life? Based on his insta/snap he seems like a loving father and great role model for his kid some of you guys a trip man....acting like Shady was some giant distraction when he was here. Yes he was pissed he got traded here, who wouldnt be? Since arriving in town he has done nothing but be a great team mate and embraced this community. Some Bills fans dont deserve Shady Sammy watkins saying he needs the ball more was 100 percent more distracting to the team than everything Shady has done or said since being a Bill

I think it would be natural for anyone to be upset about being traded. Especially if you have spent your entire life in the state of Pennsylvania. You would feel unwanted because you are literally that, unwanted. If he got traded from Buffalo today tomorrow I would fully expect him to be pissed about that too. You have a great memory if you remember him saying anything after the night club incident, my memory was he said nothing. I need some memory medicine. What I see about Shady is people always wanting to paint him in a negative light for one reason or another. Its a shame too because he is a role model, and has been for years. More NFL players could learn from him. (Not necessarily pointing fingers at you Shaw, just in general...people always trying to jump on him for little things)

What does/has Shady shot his mouth off a bit too much about?

Out of curiosity why didnt you ever like McCoy the guy?

Shady is a hall of famer. Shady is a god damn warrior. Shady is one of my top three favorite Bills of all time. Right there with Jim and Bruce. F'ing Legend who GETS BUFFALO!!!!

You are a troll I pity your life that you need to come to a message board and fake having sources/information and tout some soon to be used car salesman to get your jollies... Try going out and getting a friend or two, I would say girlfriend but I want it to be realistic. Having actual, real life friends might do you wonders

Petermans infant arm makes Fitz's arm look like a god damn intergalactic missle

lol at all of that

yea yo, what this guy said! Akin to Aaron Rodgers ability to play outside of the pocket, roll outs/bootlegs will be his friend. His ability to play outside the pocket is an addition to his ability inside the pocket.

such asssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss........

I thought I was being clear, national pundits never get projected rounds/slots correct in mocking drafts I, as a fan, am offering my take on strengths of a QB based on what I have seen of him.. I think the difference there is pretty clear to understand

I had also thought about this. Likely we will bring in two running backs, but one will certainly have to play special teams. I think a good route would be add a FA RB and draft one in the mid rounds since this is a deep RB class. McKinnon is a good back, and FA RB's just don't usually get huge pay days. Would like to see him in a Bills uniform. Other options, patriots have both Burkhead and Lewis as FA's, can they keep them both? Wouldn't mind prying one of them away from. Carlos Hyde would be a different type of back to McCoy, but I don't think he has shown enough to be relied on to be a future starter here.

Being a good pro entails: having ability, preparing yourself physically all year round, having the mental acumen to succeed against NFL defenses, reading defenses and making quick adjustments, film study and preparing week in and week out....its a lot to ask a person to be able to do and thats the major reason there arent many people that can be successful in doing so. Manziel didn't even have any of those traits

yea those articles both support exactly what I said, I knew he was a partier...but what was he addicted to? partying? you said "he would be an effective starting QB if it werent for his drug addiction"? So I ask again, what was he addicted to? All drugs? lol Perhaps you meant to say "he would be an effective starting QB if he took being an NFL QB seriously, buckled down and spent time improving his mechanics, learning to play QB, and most importantly learned how to read NFL defenses and studying film all day every day like the great QBs do...instead of partying and worrying about his image"?

yes he threw to wide open targets all day, very hard to do what drug addiction did manziel have? I mean he was a partier, but I wasn't aware he was a drug addict

I dont care about where pundits predict players to go, because they are always wrong. I am talking about their play. They play nothing alike as QB, Mayfield can actually be a threat passing the ball, all Manziel did was run around. I am not concerned about Mayfields "off field" stuff whatsoever. He is a fiery competitor and once got drunk in public, for shame! Mayfield is an actual QB who has gotten better every year and has been learning from a great coach down there. He is a born leader and all of his teammates love the kid. Sign me up.