OldTimer1960

He has lots of revenue from NFL - NHL not so much.

Add Mitchell has better hands. Add Mitchell has better hands. Add Mitchell has better hands.

Regardless of whether Bills met with him or not, I really enjoyed watching 3 games of Ladd McConkey (Alabama, Auburn, Oregon (22)). His footwork is amazing. I know he isn’t an X and the Bills need a big X, but what the Bills really need are good offensive weapons and to my eyes he is a good one. I’m not saying they should take him, but I would sure understand if they do and then look for another guy to play Davis’ role in a low-end FA or later (maybe Javon Baker if he is around near the 4th). I would not count on Justin Shorter, but I would not discount him getting some play time at X.

Michigan had 18 players at the Combine. I would not let “visit points” all be attributed to Jenkins and Wilson there. I’m not saying that the Bills aren’t interested in either, but it isn’t surprising that more Bills scouting was done for Michigan than other schools with fewer prospects.

I know it’s fun to think about, but I would be incredibly shocked if the Bills took WR in both the 1st and 2nd round with the defense in the shape that it is in currently. They could not field a DL or S group today and they can’t count on Tre White returning to form at CB. I’m more concerned about how clumsy he (Franklin) looked running pass routes. If I recall correctly, he tripped twice running against air - and those weren’t cases where his feet slid out from under him. He has long legs and they seemed awkward trying to make sharp cuts.

When I watched Brendan Rice, he never seemed to stop running no matter how long the QB held the ball. I’m guessing that you might possibly be able to get him at 99.

Not my intent to argue that Mitchell is who they should draft - or not draft. I was only offering one possible explanation - that is too many mouths to feed. I agree that Mitchell’s numbers were underwhelming given the measurables he flashed at the combine. Something seems maybe a little off.

Mitchell always played on stacked offenses where they had multiple high-end talents to “feed”. Just at Texas, they also had RB Brooks - one of the better backs in this draft, Worthy- likely 1st round WR and TE Sanders who might be a 2nd pick, too.

McConkey & Rice later (could Rice make it to round 3?) might be an option, but I think they will need to go D after getting a WR in 1st.

I watched Franklin doing the receiver drills and I believe he fell down twice against “air” (and it wasn’t just his feet slipping on the turf). Certainly not a disqualification, but a bit concerning for a position that requires a lot of coordination.

I am not arguing with you. I was simply saying that they could, if desired, still have a significant interview with any of the prospects before the draft.

They might not have liked him enough to meet again or maybe they will have him in for a visit before the draft.

Doesn’t breakout age sometimes have a lot to do with who is in front of a player at their college? Imagine trying to get on the field and make an impact as a receiver at Ohio State, Georgia, LSU last season, Texas… Some of those teams had better receiving groups than NFL teams.

I like McConkey a lot too. I love his precision route running and soft hands. I didn’t think he was slow from watching games, but his combine 40 was faster than I expected. Just for fun, I compared him to Diggs coming out. Basically same height and weight, McConkey ran a faster 40, pretty much the same split, just as good a vert and long jump, but Diggs’ hands are a fair bit larger and he has an inch on McConkey in arm length. I am NOT saying McConkey will be another Diggs, but the athletic profile and size are comparable and we know that McConkey is a great route runner like Diggs is.

Let’s face it, in this class if the Chiefs want a Wr at 32, they can get a very good one and we will not like it.

McConkey is an absolute route running master, Shakir is not in that class. I’m not dissing Shakir, but I think McConkey is going to be very good - just doesn’t fill the hole the Bills have outside, but then neither does Worthy. There are more than 10 receivers in the draft that could really help the Bills, but not as many that will play outside where Davis played. I think we can discount Coleman and Franklin to the Bills round 1, but Mitchell and Legette probably fit that role.

I’m not pounding the table for the Bills to take McConkey, but Worthy measured in at 5’11 1/4” and 165 - same height as McConkey, but McConkey weighs 21 lbs more. Really, neither of them fill the role that Davis played, but both of them are likely better than Davis. I know Worthy is super fast, but he is SO slight… Mitchell proved he is plenty fast and so did Legette - both considerably bigger and stronger, they would each fit the outside role. Worthy, Mitchell and Legette on the board, who would you take if you were BB?

The Bills’ 1st and 4th would maybe get them up 2 spots. Their 1st and 3rd might move them up to pick 23. I just don’t see a trade up this year. FA is yet to start, maybe they can re-sign Daquan Jones or Tim Settle or Poona Ford and maybe AJ Epenesa, even if they can, they still need more DT and DE depth and should also find a S and take a shot at CB if Rasul Douglas isn’t back. I know it is an offense driven league, but they have a LOT of holes on defense to address and little cap room to augment draft choices with free agents.

I understand that, but the Bills may not be able to get a big outside receiver with speed. Legette showed out, but I thought that Franklin had a rough day except for his 40. I wasn’t saying to pick either McConkey or Pearsall for the Bills, just saying they improved their stock today.

Add Ladd McConkey and Ricky Pearsall to the improved stock list.

No thank you on Worthy at 28. I think there is a reason Worthy wouldn’t do the field drills.

There could be excellent wr prospects left at 60.

Worthy is Olympic fast. I still don’t think he will go before mid-2nd. Legette’s 4.39 at 50+lbs heavier is arguably more impressive.

If there is a DL worth the pick and that isn’t mainly a 3T (Oliver’s role), it might make sense, but I don’t think there will be a top pass rusher left and there isn’t a massive space eater worth that spot. It might be smart to trade back into the top quarter of the 2nd and still nab a receiver there and then use the acquired pick to move up some slots with their own 2nd.

So big and athletic, not the very smoothest but at that size pretty good.