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Interesting that the head of the state government is passing the buck to the team. Shameless pandering? You decide. If only MN had some way to punish criminal behavior they wouldn't be at the mercy of the team. Maybe the governor could encourage the legislature to take that up. It's not that the employer shouldn't have a say, it's that the public shouldn't expect it. Businesses don't punish unrelated behavior on moral grounds, they do it solely for the purpose of protecting image. The public demand that the league act according to some moral code is convoluted at best and is essentially demanding that the league be disingenuous in its handling of these matters.

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If that's a response to me you should re-read the exchange above.

Didn't expect you to back up any of your bull **** from earlier.

I remember ass fu©king your wife in an outhouse after a 5th of bourbon, but I don't remember getting in an argument with any dead or recently departed poster. Who are you talking about?

Bills: 5 Chargers: 8

South Park - Russell Crowe vs. Cancer HD: http://youtu.be/AHmKZ_qQH0g

You should sue for copyright infringement.

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Wow. I'm impressed with Tim Kaine. Respeck.

Chicago had more total yards than the Bills.

I don't think adverse reaction to AP is inherently mob mentality. I've said twice in this thread that jail time is likely warranted (I'm thinking in the 30-90 day range). What I think is mob mentality is this new knee jerk reaction to blame the employer for sins of the employee. I expect grown men to feel gut emotions. But then I expect them to apply their logical minds to the situation. I expect a 13 year old girl to let the emotion carry her thoughts. Hence the reference. And I think too many men (not necessarily saying you're one of them) are tossing logic aside to jump on the feel-good outrage bandwagon. And I have a child as well, and if anyone did to her what AP did to his kid the Ray Rice video would look like an episode of Barney compared to what I'd do to the sad sorry POS that hit my kid (man or woman, a vagina isn't a license to hit my kid). What I wouldn't do is expect that person's employer to step in and assist in the punishment. Fair enough. "Speak for yourself" seemed an odd choice of replies, but I did regret responding that way. Although I think I've been fair otherwise. For the record, I thought he was a first class !@#$ after that second incident and was appalled that Bills fans would want him on the team (and a lot did). That said, I wasn't advocating league boycotts over it. First, I want to thank you for taking the time to present your argument. We have a lot of hit and run types that throw something out there, but won't support it. Second, there is a logical flaw here. This not only implies that the Vikings have a duty to monitor and regulate the private lives and affairs of their players, but it also assumes that benching him will prevent child abuse and that playing him will increase the likelihood of abuse. I see no evidence to support that assumption. My theory on what's going on here is people are angered by what he did to a child (I am too) and are looking to anyone who has the ability to hurt him and demanding that they not only have a right, but an obligation to do so. I have a problem with that. And as far as that Vikings message board, if next season they bring him back and fans decide they aren't going to enjoy cheering for a scumbag and pull the plug, I get that. But to have this level of outrage because less than 2 weeks after the allegations came out, and before any formal adjudication, they've decided not to effectively throw in the towel on their season as a symbolic gesture, to me is a bit much.

I still want to see in Manwel can rally the team to come back from a 3 score deficit in the second half, but in the mean time I'm not going to knock the guy for staying out in front. It all comes out in the wash and by season's end I'm sure we'll have a good idea what kind of QB he is.

The air must be getting thin up there atop your high horse. If you can draw some direct correlation between the two I'd love to hear it. Don't worry, none of the other mob members can either. That's how misplaced anger works. BTW, your little twist at the end that implies that Your opinion constitutes moral superiority while my position against mob mentality is immoral is cute. Simple-minded, but cute. Also, what is this "work force" that people accused of crimes are banned from? I know certain employers won't hire those convicted of certain crimes, but as it's stated in your post it's overbroad and incorrect.

Not really sure what your point is. They obviously have the right to shut their board down for any reason they like, just as they have the right to chop off their own feet to protest the working conditions at Nike. But both will have about the same effect on their respective causes, which is none. And if Scott decided to shut the board down as a poorly thought out reaction over some misplaced anger, I wouldn't question his right to do so, but I certainly wouldn't see it as admirable. And forgive me if I don't have a soft spot for self-righteous indignation.

I don't think you can really define the threshold, but Chris Gragg's TD against Pittsburgh was prospectively garbage time.

I'm sure their kids would be dying of cancer otherwise.

Hell of a matchup going on right now. OC trying to hang on to a slim lead against TGregg who's hoping on Luck.

No, but you get TV reporters, sports writers, and other pompous !@#$s screaming for official league sanctions by then. You got me there.

I'm not talking about the league's actions, I'm talking about the fan response. From the article: This went on for a while, it was the second accusation, and no league or team action was taken until a full police and league investigation was done. The ink hasn't dried on the AP story and people are lauding the bravery of some self-righteous dipshits who are shutting down their Vikings website b/c they have the audacity to try to win football games pending the outcome. It's patently absurd.

Stupid retort. I was around and I remember. YOU may have been calling for that **** but most were not, and most here would have gladly taken Big Ben on this team.

I couldn't care less about a Vikings message board. I'm upset that the culture I live in is becoming so irrationally and emotionally driven to mob mentality on a regular basis. I'm also bothered by the realization that what appears to be a majority of grown men tend to think and act like 13 year old girls.

Funny how those on the new outrage kick didn't boycott when Big Ben wasn't suspended. I guess the TV hadn't yet told them that's what was expected of the league.

I'm not defending AP. I'm ridiculing idiots for taking an idiotic stand. They're not standing up against child abuse and they're not doing dick **** to prevent future child abuse. They're just a bunch of easily led morons who are jumping on a pop-culture bandwagon.

Seriously? I think that's pathetic.