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Yeah, Lamp not even ending up on the team was a notable disappointment from camp, IMO.

Yeah the "I always play at 305-310" stuff was nonsense.........he was a fatter and less athletic player in the prior two seasons in Buffalo. The Miami game was definitely the most impactful game he's played for Buffalo snap-for-snap. Less so this past week but still better. The downside of playing more aggressively may turn out to be injuries....................he's already missed a game with a calf injury after starting 78 straight games to that point and is now also dealing with a groin injury.......but the player he was in 2018 and 2019 was replacement level so give me the more athletic version for half a season over the traffic cone for a full one.

I know this is a popular excuse for Edmunds not getting extended. But the two contracts are no more dependent on each other than any of the other signings they made this offseason..........or any more limiting than in the consecutive transactions of signing Tre White and Dion Dawkins long term while also adding Stefon Diggs long term contract. Allen was signing his deal in 2021........and they've had a good idea where they would have to be on Allen's deal since at least the end of last season........more likely since last fall. Agreeing to the specifics was just a matter of time. If people think Beane/Overdorf were working day and night for 5 months to get Allen's deal done or that the STRUCTURAL variations of the contract were preventing them from drawing up the parameters of an Edmunds contract they are just wrong. Edmunds has not been extended because he's not forced the issue with his play..............he's still in the wait-and-see category.

I really don't know what Beane will do but I'd like to think that he won't extend Edmunds unless he makes what would be very noticeable strides. Right now 5 of the starters in the back 7 have cap hits over $9M next season..........and that's not counting Taron Johnson who they probably can't afford to re-sign.........it's hard to see that kind of investment working out in the long run. The cap is malleable but one would hope that they will be in a competitive window with Josh Allen for another decade plus and you don't want to be fighting the cap like New Orleans. Not even sure the Pegula's would be willing to do that. According to Forbes the Bills had become used to clearing $70M-$80M per season and last year they registered a loss of close to $20M (after taxes, depreciation + amortization so not necessarily a real loss but a near $100M swing in profit decline). Beane can want to push debt forward but that has to be a two way street with ownership.

He's shown flashes of being able to make these throws............the throw to Brown in the finale against Miami was another example. Then others he overthrows by 8-10 yards.........which is astonishingly inaccurate for a top NFL QB. I know he's worked on the mechanics of the throw and a good foundation is important but he needs to get a better feel for it within his arm. Control can be improved with the rest of the body but command of your pitches comes from being to make subtle adjustments from the shoulder down.

The fact that an extension isn't done already says A LOT about what they think about Edmunds. Those who think the Bills absolutely love what they see are oblivious to this rather obvious point...........if he had been playing like the All Pro they expected he'd be they probably would have let Milano walk and would have given Edmunds a huge deal this summer. Being able to extend both Allen and Edmunds from Beane's very first draft class would have been a huge feather in the cap for the GM. Picking Edmunds option up was only a mistake if you were hoping to get a comp pick for losing him though...........you are right that he has little trade value with that figure, modest production and looming free agency but someone with a glaring hole at MLB, a lot of cap space and no intention of wasting a 1st round pick on a devalued position would likely take him for at least a day 3 pick.

Yuck it up Mr. "nobody understands statistics like me". Tremaine Edmunds has played about 400 more defensive snaps in his career than Matt Milano. 😙 That's about the equivalent of 6 more full games of snaps. Not remembering that Milano has missed A LOT of time over his career shows a real lack of awareness on your part..........uninstinctive posting. Milano has come away with 12 turnovers in less snaps than Edmunds has taken to produce just 3. Keep thinking that all turnovers are random though...........turnover differential is arguably the most decisive team stat in the NFL so I guess winning is random as well.

Regarding the Bills game plan to let Chase Young go wide.........they simply copied the gameplan the Chargers(then NYG) had for him. Not so much clever as competent use of copy cat game planning.

Tillman has forced the most fumbles by a back 7 player since it became a stat, which is what we are talking about, yes. The technique that White used to cause that fumble Sunday is named after him for a reason.

Yes. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TillCh20.htm

This is the same mistake The Big Cat made with his "heat maps" when defending Rex Ryan's defense in Buffalo............trying to explain away an inherent deficiency using a statistical field that does not take into account individual player strengths and weaknesses. While team fumble recoveries.........and to some extent turnovers.........can seem random or fluctuate greatly from season to season.........certain players are clearly exceptional at creating them AND coming away with the football. Undeniably.

You are confusing "perfect" execution with the minimally successful execution. Perfect execution is baiting Henicke into throwing into the double team and making a play on the football............getting him to move to his second read and putting the responsibility on Milano to handle the much tougher coverage assignment was the least that Edmunds should have accomplished. Again.........Milano had the much harder job and Poyer made an alert and instintive play. All Edmunds did was combine on a double team to take away a very short pass option. As for the "Beasley makes LB's look silly" take.........sometimes.........but other times he gets bracketed and Allen should be moving on to his next read. Heinicke did a poor job of recognizing the coverage pre-snap. Where else was Edmunds going to go if he didn't blitz?

Now Edmunds has elevated his game to being a Tre White clone too. 😆 We'll be looking for that Tre White "Peanut Punch" next.............oh wait...........no that's right, fumble recoveries are totally random........no correlation between a well-timed, intentional stripping away of the football from an offensive player fighting for extra yardage......and the subsequent alert defender anticipating the possibility of such.......must be a highly unexpected and random occurrence. Funny how the same guys keep making all the random big plays...........as I was watching that Milano recovery I was reminded of the Poyer/Milano strip/recovery that was overturned at the very end of the Colts playoff game. I had no idea this stuff was totally random.

FIFY Second most receiving yards produced per game (117.6) in a non-strike shortened season since the NFL merger.

While it's true that you can get great pressure without sacks..............against Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady they will need to actually be able to get close enough to hit the QB on passing plays. Presumably they are one or both of the stumbling blocks to winning the SB this season.........and that's how you beat them. That's just common sense at this point......anyone arguing otherwise is a dope. The only additions they made to the defense were to address that deficiency............so trying to undersell the value of actually taking down the QB at this point is more than a bit off-key.

I'm still holding out a glimmer of hope that he will turn the corner........because probably 90% of his issues are in the speed of processing/decision making and after 3,000 snaps as an NFL MLB you'd have to hope that the game would slow down enough for him to put himself into position to make plays. But it's definitely getting discouraging when week-after-week he doesn't. Erik Turner isn't doing himself any favors with these examples of Edmunds sneaky greatness.🙄 He literally did the bare minimum you need from any LB on that play.

Yeah, let's face it, it's more the spirit of the rule that people are opposed to. The vax card is just a frickin' piece of cardstock. If they said you had to have scannable e-vax card that would be a different story but until further notice the lack of a vax card will only keep the very least resourceful people out of games.

The difference between Edmunds and a great MLB there is a great one baits Heinecke into throwing that ball into double coverage............it took almost no effort to do what he did and he simply played his minimum coverage responsibility on the play. Just another case of routine, team-defense misinterpreted as a big play. Milano had the tougher coverage responsibility and he carried it long enough that the pass rush should have closed the deal. But Poyer won the down with the play that DOES show up in the "score box"........a heads-up, instinctive play. That isn't an accident with Poyer, it's who he is.

If you don't have anything to contribute other than complaining about posters for discussing Tremaine Edmunds game in a thread about him.........then you are the problem. Stay out of threads that are going to hurt your feelings. It's not complicated but some people like yourself cannot grasp that every topic is not an open letter directly addressed to you. Start your own thread to complain about people posting their opinions..........those always have a good following........then you can blanket the issue with your general disdain for two sided discussion.

It was even easier to get in at 10 minutes to 1 pm today than it was last week. The covid card check was prior to the metal detector and was super quick. House was totally packed so the worry about vax requirement hurting attendance were misplaced.

Yep. You all need to get thru those gates ASAP so I can cruise in casually at 10 minutes to 1 like last game.

They are stuck with Edmunds cap figure in 2022...........it became fully guaranteed when they exercised it......so they'd have to trade him to move that money off the books. I think the bigger issue with giving Taron Johnson a potentially huge contract is the fact that the offensive side of the ball is looking a bit patch-work. Hopefully the oftensieve line that they've been so far gels into a unit that Allen and the RB's can trust...........but regardless, none of the interior are individual match-up winning players. Their WR corps is deep but unlike some of the more explosive groups they don't have a 1B option behind Diggs........and Emmanuel Sanders is already talking retirement after this season and Beasley is getting long in the tooth and hasn't looked as dynamic so far either. They are pedestrian at RB and shallow and suspect at TE. The list of reserve players with big upside probably begins and ends with Spencer Brown. Their offense will need to be addressed........there certainly appear to be more potential holes on that side of the ball for 2022 than on D right now.

So technically on defense they have difference makers in White, Milano, Hyde and Poyer tied up thru 2023........along with players we see have actually seen play well enough to project very high end potential like Epenesa and Rousseau. On offense.........they only have Allen, Diggs and Dawkins as difference makers tied up thru 2023. Even if you throw Gabe Davis into that mix the team is very lopsided in investment on the defensive side of the ball. I'd like to see the Bills avoid going the Aaron Rodgers route where they short play the bulk of a superstar QB's career by not 1st round picks to support his side of the ball. 13 of the Packers last 16 first round picks have been on defense. And one of those 3 on offense was QB Jordan Love. And you know.......the best value of those 16 #1's was probably offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga. If the Bills go D in round 1 again in 2022 that would be 5 of the 7 McDermott-era first round selections having been expended on the defensive side of the ball.........and one of those was traded for Stefon Diggs and at $14M aav that came with a big veteran cap hit and the other was spent on Allen himself.

I saw John Lee Hooker open for Blues Hammer back in 2000. If you like some "way down in the delta blues" you'll love Blues Hammer. "I've been PLOWWWWIN'.......pickin' cotton all day long".

This thread is funny. Next season the Bills back 7 cap hits include: $16M Tre White $13M Tremaine Edmunds $10M Matt Milano $10M Jordan Poyer $9M Micah Hyde They already crossed the "too much $ invested in defense" line a bit when they surprisingly paid Milano. They are reaping the benefits this year because the defense is loaded..........but having 8-9 highly paid defenders isn't reasonable/sensible cap management. Offense is a lot more sustainable. They need to keep the offensive side of the ball stacked.