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Yeah if Diggs or Davis miss time........other than losing Allen it's the biggest drop in quality on the roster from an every down starter to the top backup(Jake Kumerow, a street free agent level receiver who is just there for special teams). Guard is also shaky.........Saffold missed about 5 games worth of snaps last year going in and out of lineup because of a degenerative shoulder condition.........even expecting him to not decline any further is quite a leap of faith.........and behind he and Bates at those guard spots are a bunch of not-promising individuals. The hope there is that Kromer elevates the group. With all due respect to Chad Hall, not sure if there is anymore coaching up the 30 year old Kumerow.

That's a tough one. Just about anyone other than Josh wearing that gives a real Crocodile Douchebee vibe. Probably why it's not an item.

This part. He's been washed since McBeane were back in Carolina. Utter randomness.

You should have stayed a Chiefs fan instead of jumping teams.........past few seasons must have been extra tough for you.

Did you see him play in his prime? No, you did not. He was more of a rich man's Cornelius Bennett........he was unstoppable initially........his initially just lasted 4 seasons instead of 2......and then people figured out they could just run at him and his impact wasn't the same after that. Lawrence Taylor never got benched in the playoffs because he wouldn't play run defense. Bruce Smith played most of his career with 2 gap run responsibility in an odd front. Reggie White was a strong side DE. Thomas is a deserving HOF'er..........but there is a difference between a HOF'er and "this guy was arguably the greatest". You can't say that about Thomas. You act like his sack per season production was Babe-Ruth-esque..........Kevin Greene and Jack Youngblood averaged more(and Youngblood did it in mostly 14 game seasons).

Derrick Thomas doesn't belong on that list. He didn't play any run defense. Literally got benched, in his prime, against the Bills in the 1993 AFC Championship game in favor of an extra run defender. He was just a pass rusher.

Yeah people who think any of the actual board room objectives of streaming services are to save you money versus cable/satellite are total sheep.

Yep. Bunch of people who use corded television or what they can get for free online think ESPN is dying or not evolving.

Yeah the Lions are due for a rough patch.

This one is for @Nextmanup and @Buftex and @PatsFan4Lifeso they can keep their Patriots scores:

Josh Allen has never puked or cried in the course of his daily life.........he rarely sh*ts even. He needs jejunal stimulation to do the former. An occasional teaspoon of ranch cleans out the hidden valley.

It's actually a new TSW technique I have been working on to disarm bickering idiots........I call it "sub-illumination".........it's where you understate a convincing fact for effect. The impact on the lizard brain of the bickering idiot seems significant. Where they normally would just ignore logic and facts because they aren't on their side.......they are instead compelled to point out that my factoid is incorrect.........but in the process they have to acknowledge and strengthen my point to do so. And they don't want to do that. I've tried it 4-5 times this offseason and I've never found a better way to dismiss a BI. So the next time you see me state that the Bills scored 9 points against Jacksonville, you will know why. And thank you for saying that my point wasn't "nearly as flawed"..........but it's not flawed at all...........contracts work the way they work in the NFL. Like line play, it's about how much leverage you have. It's not a personal matter for me. Like I said, if Poyer wants to hold out I don't begrudge him. If the Bills insist on not re-doing his deal or extending him........I think there is plenty of merit for such a decision.

Nice win over a really sloppy defense Rays team, 7-2. Nestor Cortes had another stellar outing..........giving the team 8 scoreless when the bullpen is weakened by injuries. Lineup continues to struggle with LeMahieu, Stanton and Donaldson out.

I don't disagree with the bolded because all they risked was about $7M signing Poyer...........but if he had signed a 1 year deal for the then-league-minimum $660K anywhere who bats an eye? Nobody. Instead he got $6M guaranteed from the Bills. When the Bills signed Star Lotulelei I thought he warranted a 1 year $4M deal.........sorta' like the one Daquan Jones got with Carolina last year..........and the Bills instead gave him 5 years, $50M and $25M guaranteed. They grossly overpaid Star at 2.5 times a reasonable aav and gave him 5 years.....but by the same token Poyer basically got 5 times league minimum as his aav and got 4 years. So "how much" Poyer was overpaid is a matter of perspective. Completely agree with second paragraph. I'd also add that I support his right to hold out. If he wants to use whatever leverage he has........so be it. I just wouldn't extend him right now and am not pained by his perceived plight. He's not a young player and they already have one old safety on a multi-year with Micah Hyde. If Poyer has another excellent year, his relative value as a 32 year old at a non-premium position still decreases IMO. It's not in the Bills best interest to extend him at the moment, IMO.

Oh some Bills fans claimed Poyer was a good signing? On a fan site full of homer's who had no idea who he was until they read that the Bills signed him? You don't say! You literally listed his cap number as 45th among safeties in the first year and then in the 20's for safeties during that first contract.............there are 60 starting safeties in the NFL............get better at math or get better at S'ing TFU. And let me add the following from that thread....... @christrapasso As @JoeBanner13 & others have said, I'm not sure who #Bills were competing w/ re: J.Poyer's contract. But APY-wise, he's 41st-highest paid S -@YoloinOhio Here's a tip.........when a former GM says "I'm not sure who (team) were competing with" that means the amount given was really surprising..........and yeah $6M gtd to a guy who was considered an afterthought on the market was surprising. So yeah, you were lying about the comments in addition to not being able to figure out how many starting safeties there are in the NFL. The larger question is why some people have personal worry about what the wealthy Poyer is earning? As I said, were you mad at him for taking an unexpected $6M gtd payday from the Bills when he hadn't done anything to that point and couldn't stay healthy and was battling alcoholism? If not then why are you feeling unnecessary pain over him not being paid like an All Pro now? He took the juicy guarantee up front and got the security..........I'm sure the Bills would have done a league minimum 1 year deal if he had wanted. But he took the signing bonus plan!

I was wrong, I really thought Shady was going to make it in radio.........

Here are the best available safeties going into free agency in 2017 per NFL.com: Safeties Dashon Goldson, Atlanta Falcons Matt Elam, Baltimore Ravens Kendrick Lewis, Baltimore Ravens James Ihedigbo, Buffalo Bills Robert Blanton, Buffalo Bills Phillip Thomas, Buffalo Bills Aaron Williams, Buffalo Bills Michael Griffin, Carolina Panthers Rafael Bush, Detroit Lions Don Jones, Houston Texans Duke Williams, Indianapolis Colts T.J. McDonald, Los Angeles Rams Michael Thomas, Miami Dolphins Jairus Byrd, New Orleans Saints Roman Harper, New Orleans Saints Jamarca Sanford, New Orleans Saints Shamarko Thomas, Pittsburgh Steelers Jeron Johnson, Seattle Seahawks Kelcie McCray, Seattle Seahawks Daimion Stafford, Tennessee Titans Rashad Johnson, Tennessee Titans Donte Whitner, Washington Redskins Duke Ihenacho, Washington Redskins Do you even see Jordan Poyer on that inauspicious list? He was seen as a scrub not even worth noting on a list that had Robert Blanton on it, for chrissakes. And it wasn't just the people looking from 10,000 feet.........Jordan Poyer was the 69th ranked safety when he actually played(only 6 games healthy) in 2016 per PFF. He was seen as just a league minimum, non-starting quality, compete for a roster spot kinda' player. The Bills gave him starters money.......there are 60 starting safeties in the NFL........do the math. And a 4 year contract to boot! Basically........just STFU.

Yeah I think we have to adjust expectations somewhat relative to the rest of the league. Run stopping isn't a top priority so run stuffers are devalued and don't get paid much so there aren't going to be a lot of dominant one's. Ted Washington's or even Snacks Harrison's aren't out there anymore. Jones and Settle might be a really strong 1 tech combo by current league standards.

Got 2 of 3 from the Tirds. Great first MLB start from rookie JP Sears and fellow rookie Ron Marinaccio put up 2 scoreless. Not much offense but Andujar had a couple hits. Errin' Hicks is having an epically bad season at EVERYTHING though.........even by his career standard of usually having terrible seasons.

In 2017 when the Bills shockingly gave him starting safety money........similar to what an actual in-demand free agent named Micah Hyde got from the Bills........despite Poyer being an injury prone journeyman who had just missed 10 games the prior year.............were you angry at Poyer for getting too much money? Of course you weren't..........the team offered it so he took it whether he had deserved it or not. That's the way it goes with contracts. Sometimes players get money in free agency that they didn't earn.........and sometimes they earn money that they don't get because they've signed away leverage in exchange for security and guaranteed dough in real time. Now if Poyer were both younger and played a premium position maybe he'd have more leverage...........but he's not and he doesn't.

The legend of Khalil

They run some fronts with 2 DT's lined up as 3T's and no 1T. I don't see Phillips playing any 1T unless there are injuries. He was projected as a potentially elite NT with little pass rush ability coming out of Oklahoma but they found out that he plays too tall to tie up blockers and is best suited to shooting gaps.........the exact opposite of his projection.........which may well be what happens with the much hyped Georgia rookie DT Jordan Davis in the NFL as well, IMO. If you can't get low you can't be a good 1T or NT at the NFL level.

Kyle Fuller. William Fuller was a good pass rusher for the Oilers. "The Fuller Rush Man" as Berman called him in reference to the movie "The Fuller Brush Man". https://fuller.com

Yeah I don't disagree with any of that. I think we have to admit that the athletic bar has been raised at receiver though since the likes of Beasley and Crowder entered the league. The league was struggling to find receivers in those years and still those two weren't considered of great draft value. Shakir being a modestly better athlete(at least using combine numbers) just helps the Bills keep pace in the slot, rather than necessary elevating them. Beas and Crowder put up some pretty big numbers. I expect Shakir to be similar if not better. But slots get coins.........outside WR get paper. You gotta' be seen as a real ankle breaker to go in the top 3 rounds as a slot.