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Got 2 of 3 from the Tirds. Great first MLB start from rookie JP Sears and fellow rookie Ron Marinaccio put up 2 scoreless. Not much offense but Andujar had a couple hits. Errin' Hicks is having an epically bad season at EVERYTHING though.........even by his career standard of usually having terrible seasons.

In 2017 when the Bills shockingly gave him starting safety money........similar to what an actual in-demand free agent named Micah Hyde got from the Bills........despite Poyer being an injury prone journeyman who had just missed 10 games the prior year.............were you angry at Poyer for getting too much money? Of course you weren't..........the team offered it so he took it whether he had deserved it or not. That's the way it goes with contracts. Sometimes players get money in free agency that they didn't earn.........and sometimes they earn money that they don't get because they've signed away leverage in exchange for security and guaranteed dough in real time. Now if Poyer were both younger and played a premium position maybe he'd have more leverage...........but he's not and he doesn't.

The legend of Khalil

They run some fronts with 2 DT's lined up as 3T's and no 1T. I don't see Phillips playing any 1T unless there are injuries. He was projected as a potentially elite NT with little pass rush ability coming out of Oklahoma but they found out that he plays too tall to tie up blockers and is best suited to shooting gaps.........the exact opposite of his projection.........which may well be what happens with the much hyped Georgia rookie DT Jordan Davis in the NFL as well, IMO. If you can't get low you can't be a good 1T or NT at the NFL level.

Kyle Fuller. William Fuller was a good pass rusher for the Oilers. "The Fuller Rush Man" as Berman called him in reference to the movie "The Fuller Brush Man". https://fuller.com

Yeah I don't disagree with any of that. I think we have to admit that the athletic bar has been raised at receiver though since the likes of Beasley and Crowder entered the league. The league was struggling to find receivers in those years and still those two weren't considered of great draft value. Shakir being a modestly better athlete(at least using combine numbers) just helps the Bills keep pace in the slot, rather than necessary elevating them. Beas and Crowder put up some pretty big numbers. I expect Shakir to be similar if not better. But slots get coins.........outside WR get paper. You gotta' be seen as a real ankle breaker to go in the top 3 rounds as a slot.

There is a perception that he has a couple shortcomings that limit him to the slot. And slot receivers gotta' be pretty explosive to be worth day 2 picks. Which he ain't. He's in the Cole Beasley/Jamison Crowder category athletically............Beasley was undrafted and Crowder was a 4th. 5th round seemed about right to me.

He's quick off the ball and he has about the longest first step you'll ever see, which quickly stresses an OT in pass pro. He has a number of things to work on but it was that initial impact quickly after the snap that made him effective in preseason and early in the season. OT's adjusted. I also think he hit the rookie wall pretty quick. He had played just one season of football since HS and there he was starting in the NFL as a rookie(and leading NFL DL in run stops). He did well under the circumstance but his weakness is just not being skilled enough yet to stringing multiple moves together when he gets stopped initially. I think it's reasonable to question whether what Von can do will translate into things that could help Rousseau..........but I guess I wouldn't rule it out either.

This is your opening, @Logic. Just remember the things I taught you.

You would think...........but the ownership is the greediest in sports. Two decades ago George used to spend $250M to make $30M. 20 years later his son Hal spends less than $220M to make about $500M. I mean they own their own TV network and are worth almost 50% more than the next closest team (Dodgers). They are printing money and when it comes that easy it tends to feed the greed. Best thing that happened to Yankee fans was the Mets getting sold to a spender. Hal has been able to lean on the fact that the Mess weren't spending money. Not anymore. But the reason everyone is either a Yankee fan or hates the Yankees is because they always win. Grasp that........they haven't had a losing season since the Bills were in their SB run of the early 90's. They will cruise to their 30th consecutive winning season this year. There is obviously not anyone in major sport close to that. Second longest streak all time.......to their own run of 39 straight from the 1920's into the 1960's........and they will likely break that streak. As for whether they win more than 5 WS titles in that time..........that may be up to Hal wanting it bad enough. He hasn't been willing to go all-in like they did in 2009 when George was still alive.........or like the Dodgers, Red Sox and Astros have at various times over the past decade.

This is not good for his football career...........a grown man taking a handicapped person device to move luggage to save $5 is in very poor taste.........but then beating an airport employee senseless after you get caught is just idiotic. One of the dudes in the USFL got cut for telling a foodservice worker at their hotel that it "wasn't OK" that they didn't have pizza on the menu. When you are a scrub you gotta' be extra careful not to do dumb sh*t in public.

Donaldson suspended 1 game and must buy corndogs for everyone.

Right.......that's your job.

To me, 2017 was really more about luck finally falling in favor of one of many mediocre Bills teams' of the drought era. That team had the lowest point differential of any NFL team to make the playoffs since the 1980's............and was worse in that regard than any Bills team since the Chan Gailey days. The offense, in particular, was unwatchable bad.........after having been one of the better offense's in the NFL the year prior (#7 in scoring and fewest turnovers thru 15 games of any team in the SB era). It was a fluke that they got in. They caught teams off-guard early in the season with a new defensive system and got off to a fast start winning some very close games..........then limped terribly thru the second half. But fortunately had a pathetic schedule and scraped past some terrible teams at the end to get to 9-7. Some years 9-7 doesn't get it done..........but this happened to be the year when the Jacksonville Jaguars made it to the AFC championship game.........the Jaguars being a team that has drafted in the top 10 in 14 of the last 15 seasons. But as I've said before..........sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

Edmunds is a significant limiting factor for sure..........but the OL was truly awful for much of last season and their depth situation is(on paper) worse now.......so that has to be the biggest weakness, IMO. 125 combined pressures and sacks in 2021 was horrendous. But the biggest potential improvement the defense could make would be the light coming on for Edmunds. There are a ton of plays to be made in the middle in this defense. It's what is lost on a lot of the people that defend Edmunds. It's not just disappointing results wrt the routine. He should be an NFLDPOY candidate in this defense with his physical tools. I believe it is very unlikely that he elevates his game significantly after 4-5 seasons.............but that did happen with Demario Davis........who took 6 years for it to click and then he's been at or near All Pro level since.

So you are suggesting maybe they should have hired their new GM when they hired McDermott? Like every other team does every other time when they want to change both positions? Yeah it was stupid to wait to fire Whaley when they knew he was out from the get-go. Agreed. And here's a helpful hint..........when you are using a ridiculous line of logic like that don't list the people that are still in the organization......let alone the top ranking officials in the organization...... ownership(#1) and McDermott(#2).

Yep, the reproduction explanation. You and GB are in lock step on this. He is driven by his desire to reproduce, if nothing else. Or maybe humans just have the capacity for a broad variety of potential "wants" in their DNA........which allow the species to adapt in many more ways than just reproduction?

You would be well served to learn that it often "can be both". The Bills screwed themselves by both trading the opportunity to pick Mahomes as well as trading him to a rival. The Chiefs required a measure of good fortune to be able to get Mahomes where they did..........but what they did was bold as hell.......they were a 12-4 team and had been the #2 seed in the AFC. To trade up for a young QB when they had one in his prime was a power move for sure. The Bills, by contrast, desperately needed a young QB and were in perfect position to re-set their QB position in 2017............but were timid..........and have been punished for it repeatedly since...........as fortune does. They f*cked around and it cost them(and has haunted them still as recently as about 13 seconds ago)..........but they have bounced back and have made the best of the situation. They required a lot more luck than KC because punting on a HOF talent QB almost never results in another shot at one in the near future. But it is better to be lucky than good sometimes.

Yeah I mentioned this in another thread a few days ago. The Bills are the favorites, but the favorite doesn't win that often. The Patriots of 2018 were I believe given a 28% chance to win the SB by Vegas. The Chiefs were given an 18% chance to win the SB last year as the favorite. The Bills are the favorite but I've seen them as low as 7% as the favorite. The general consensus in the gaming industry is that the competition is more fierce than ever this year but there are a lot of folks on TSW who think that this is all just about the Bills "not blowing it". The way I look at it..........they need to get the #1 seed...........they have a pretty easy path to get it but last year it was much easier and they blew it. After they get the #1 they just gotta' win 3 games. The divisional round, the championship and the SB were all going to be tough opponents one way or another so while their odds of actually winning will probably be the lowest of any favorite ever..........their path remains quite favorable. And they owe extra effort/focus/intensity for those 20 games to both themselves and the fan base for choking during the regular season last year when it had all laid out so easily for them. Last year was the prime opportunity...........this year will be more of a grind.......but also more rewarding if they accomplish it.

Yeah they were great in that. The 6 minute continuous shot in episode 4........

I love Bar-Bill wings........they are generally on the medium/small side though.........so not terribly surprising for a 250# athlete.

No and yes. ALL of the SB teams were better than this team. They were absolutely loaded. And the 1999 team was more talented too, relative to the style of football played then, than this one. That one had a wide open path to winning a SB that year......without question the best Bills defense post merger..........and they screwed the pooch not getting home field and got HR throwbacked on the road( a lot like the 2021 Bills, really). Post free agency a lot of things have happened that have gradually distributed talent around the league MUCH more evenly. It took a while because rookie deals used to be longer(1st rounders got 7 year deals in the 90's) and there were more ways to restrict movement with tags and teams didn't know how to manage the salary cap and were afraid to use guarantees etc.. And then the rules changes in 2010 to protect QB's and bolster the passing game have gradually changed the league from being dominated by a handful of elite QB's to one where A LOT of teams have franchise QB's capable of winning a SB. Which is how the competition is now better than it's ever been........at least in the AFC.

Oh man, you sure you aren't a christian? You really need to stick to football takes.

Well either way really.........Vegas ranks the Chargers as the #3 team in the AFC behind Buffalo and KC so they like their odds regardless of whether they've proven anything or not. But if what "nobody thought" made any difference then the preseason favorites wouldn't mean much. It's generally proven to be about a 15% chance that the preseason SB favorite cashes that ticket since the last repeat champion. The Bills are the consensus "favorite" this year but in some places they are given as little as a 7% chance. For comparison sake........the Chiefs were given a 19% chance at the same gaming company last year. One of the late 2010's NE teams was a heavy favorite........given a 28% chance in preseason..........so if what people think is your barometer then I wouldn't get too carried away with the Bills favorite status. The competition is seen as fierce.

You mean 2018 is the best draft of your fandom. Allen alone is more valuable than the entire 2017 draft........and he and Wyatt Teller are both All Pro's from that Bills class. Edmunds, Phillips, Taron Johnson all productive players and Neal is in his 5th year with team as well. 2017 yielded 3 very good players though. Those two drafts are proof positive that having a lot of needs makes it easier to draft well...........because inevitably most teams will reach around a better player to fill a need.......Beane is no exception. 1985 is probably the best of my Bills fandom.........Bruce and Andre both HOF'ers. Derrick Burroughs was an outstanding young player who they lost too soon. Chris Burkett was a really good WR for a few years and of course Frank Reich was a really good backup QB.