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It was very unsportsmanlike of Gronkowski but the exaggeration and wailing by thin-skinned, Patriot-weary Bills fans was 100% about the disrespect. Much more dangerous collisions happen on the field of play all the time. The nonsense about the hit potentially hurting White is ridiculous. Tre White is a f*cking yoked up beast not some 100 pound weakling. Pushing him in the back from behind while he was standing up would look much less disrespectful but be more likely to injure a player than piling on him at shoulder level when he's flat on the ground and his body can't move far. Anyone with the basic awareness that comes from having played contact sports knows this is correct.

I don't think you are going to find a lot of "Buffalo Bills places"..........the Bills are just part of the fabric of the community........there are public displays of affection for the Bills all over but it more like that........little bits everywhere. As people have mentioned, the things to visit are places like Niagara Falls(including the more touristy Canadian side) and a great state park like Letchworth and, of course, all the regional food places. The stadium is nice to visit and the Bills store is open year round there but you will find that when you roll up that it's a huge parking lot and stadium dropped into the outskirts of a middle class neighborhood.

Some people just don't know what's good for them. Just like the acetic acid in vinegar improves cognitive performance and slows dementia........as does reading my takes. Drink this @eball, give your liver a drink off.

I've only eaten at the north location once and it was great.......wings were at least as good as EA. And the north location is MUCH larger. The EA one is tight quarters and probably going to be packed full on weekend. I've had to walk away from the EA location rather than wait a long time to be seated. Excellent wings but wings are good all over in WNY.

Here's your ration for today. It will get lighter each day until you admit Peters is a HOF'er.

It's always just the people owning, coaching and playing at that time that create the results. Not a curse, not the league or the weather or the refs.......

As the victor I simply exercised my right to also charge the surrendering prisoner with a prior crime.

And also.........yes Jason Peters is a HOF'er..........you are very wrong thinking otherwise. Only question is whether he's first ballot or not.

The highlights in the OP literally show that he didn't suck by all measures. He could make some of the most difficult plays of any QB in the NFL at the time. And he made those "Josh Allen plays" at a time when there weren't many protections for the quarterback or his receivers.

18 and 2 byes..........but 2 preseason games are going to happen. The NFL has been playing 20 games since back in the 14 regular season game days when they had 6 preseason games.............20 was collectively bargained long ago and the owners aren't giving up 3 preseason games just to add 1 regular season game. The starters don't need to play in those games but the owners want the ticket revenue and tv money for those preseason games.........and teams need to evaluate the depth..........and yeah, they get a lot of ticket revenue because us season ticket holders have to pay for them.

There is a "pervasive idea" that Jake Kumerow is not a good 3rd option outside............and that the next 3-4 other options are small targets.......including the short-armed rookie Shakir. How invested are you in this idea that the Bills are going to use a 5'7" and 28 7/8" arm McKenzie as a replacement for the 6'2" 32 1/4" armed Davis on the outside? (combine measurements, fwiw) Seems ridiculous, to be honest. Do you understand why teams don't use small target receivers outside the hashes?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34114845/the-wild-numbers-new-york-yankees-historic-start

Again, never said Rojo wasn't a failure. But QB numbers are relative to the league averages of the day. You just refuse to admit that league average completion % has risen almost 7 points since 2000.........58% in 2000 scales to 65% in 2021. And beyond that you think that the stat means more than it does. 1992 Jim Kelly 58.2% (league average was 57.5%)...... less than 1 point above average and was named All Pro 2000 Rob Johnson 57.2% in 2000 (58.2%.).....1 point below average 2021 Josh Allen was 63.3% (64.8.%)........1.5 points below average and was generally regarded as one of the best in the NFL.

He looked like Beasley of 2021 in those clips. Now subtract 5 games injured.........and that's why his fantasy projections are around 50 catches for 500 yards. Need about 85 and 1,000 from that slot position. They have a bunch of options but Crowder is by far the most "likely" to put up enough numbers to get them most of the way there.

Crowder was hurt all season. That's why his ypa was down. He had no burst. He used to be a big YAC guy.......something the Bills desperately need........but last year he had a woeful 3.5 YAC after averaging 5.8 YAC the previous 3 seasons. Not saying Zach Wilson didn't cost him some, his depth of target was down about a yard.........but he lost MORE than some. Injuries have become his problem, both in terms of bulk stats and averages. Hence his bargain price. Here are some good clips from weeks 9-11 that show the lack of burst last season:

I get the 7 year argument. He's also a higher pedigree player(a 4th round pick). But it's simple...........Beasley was much more productive last year. The most important data is the most recent data.........especially in the NFL where careers aren't long. But as I've said........Beasley was also more productive that Crowder in 2020 as well. And 3 of the past 4 years he's produced more yardage and had more catches. I liked the Crowder signing.........but it is what it is........an injury flier on a guy who has missed 9 games the last two seasons and had a very large drop-off last season in particular. As I've said in other posts.........just getting back to where they were in 2021 is not even good enough IMO..........they dropped almost 40 yards per game in passing yardage per game from 2020. I thought they should have upgraded their talent. On paper.......they simply did not. But it's not over yet........there are still some talented outside receiver options still on the market.

I miss the more violent game. To me, the last vestige of the old-school violent game was January 19, 2014........49ers @ Seahawks NFC championship game. Those two teams were still bashing it out and they played an absolute battle and the refs let them play. Then it was gone. So yeah........I wish the violence was back........and plays like this were always a big part of the fun. At the same time.........I understand why they want to protect the players..........and it definitely wasn't fair to take away the defense's ability to hit QB's or WR's but still allow offensive players to be able to blindside block defenders. And you can't legislate it if there is a fine line........it's the same thing with contact to the QB's helmet.......it needs to be easy to call. Like you said.........lineman like Dawkins KNOW this is going to be a penalty........that's why it's almost entirely gone from the game.

I'd say you stole that ridiculously illogical take from a crass satire like 'Trailer Park Boys" or "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" template..........but sadly, that would be giving FAR too much credit.

Well last year Davis had 549 and Crowder had 447. As I've said before Davis could put up 1175 yards receiving to cover for all of the yardage he and Sanders COMBINED for last season. That's just a big jump for a guy whose averaged less than half that in his first two seasons........a career 56% catch guy that has battled foot injuries(though he remained on the active roster thru them) and inconsistency (like his dreadful 3 catches on 14 targets game against the Jets last year). Crowder could put up 700 or more...........but he also could continue to be what he's been..........too unavailable and less productive. And I will add this..........I, for one, didn't go into this offseason thinking that the Bills passing game didn't have room for improvement. The Bills averaged 299 yards passing per game in 2020...........that number fell to 262 last year. IMO..........Josh Allen should be a 5,000 yard passer every year in a 17 game schedule.........just "replacing" production that wasn't enough would not BE enough, IMO.

So LMGTS......... I said that the Bills replaced Beasley with a less productive receiver.............you took exception with some vague argument about context..........I told you that my point still stands AS WELL as answering your stupid context argument succinctly.........and you think I am straw manning you? I never cease to be amazed and the stupid f*cking ***** people will say on TSW.

Regardless of your 30% drop number........there is no argument to be made that Beasley wasn't more productive than Crowder last season........and 3 of the last 4 seasons since Crowder's injury problems began to derail his promising career. I like Crowder's talent........early in his career he was better than Beasley IMO.........but he's only been "that" guy once in the last 4 seasons. The Bills are hoping he bounces back after two successive down seasons and the contract fairly reflects the risk/significant chance that he's seen better days. OJ Howard is the same situation.....he went from 1,000+ combined receiving yards in '18 and '19 down to nothing the past two seasons (with Tom Brady). The problem is that these guys are stepping into a lineup that has lost a SIGNIFICANT amount of production in the pass game in Beasley and Sanders.

My takeaway from that is you had a drinking problem that you blamed for out of control behavior........and you don't have any kids but you want to make a condescending remark about how I treat posters on here (all who have initiated any negativity that followed) by using my family as a reference. You're not a young man, you should know you don't go there. This is why we keep it to football on the main board. If you want to speak to me about personal things.........that's what PM's are for. And btw, what you don't see on TSW is that I often bypass responding to negativity and just respond to unsolicited personal attacks on the board with PM's.........and with rare exception those people shut right the f*ck up or back pedal like a mofo on PM.........which tells you all you need to know about what their intention was in the public forum. I'm not paid to do this........so you can expect me to be gracious to assh*les in one hand and take a dump in the other and see which one fills up first.

First: The main reason Crowder's production is down is because he has averaged missing 4 games per season the past 4 years. Last season he was never right.........he missed 5 games with 2 separate injuries.........THEN had to exit the season finale against Buffalo injured. After two down seasons and 9 games missed in that time.........Crowder was available for cheap for a reason........his ypa tumbling to 8.8 in 2021 is a red flag because he used to be a good ypa guy...........but whether he's diminished by all the injuries now or not, he's simply not been available enough. Beasley was hurt all season too and it hurt his averages..........but he PLAYED and produced..........he was 18th in the NFL in receptions. Second: The idea that receivers are at a big disadvantage in terms of being able to produce if their QB isn't a superstar like Josh Allen(who was only the 24th most accurate passer in the NFL at 63%, fwiw) is not statistically supported. DJ Moore put up 93 catches and almost 1200 yards with Sam and Cam, throwing him the ball, basically. I really don't need to expand on that list of huge producers on badly QB'd teams.......there are plenty. Crowder was one of them in 2019.........he had an absurd 27 targets in the 2 games against the Bills that season. Crowder got 6 targets per game last season.........Beasley had 7. They both caught about 70% of those throws and had woeful ypa's in the 8's..........but availability is the most important ability.

You are dead wrong about me being able to offer the expanded, objective opinions that I do and not be attacked and loathed by some. You guys wear on those people and run them off. It's nearly inevitable. That's why there are so, so few glass-not-full or objective contributors here. Think of all the content someone like Lori provided here........she did it without returning fire and just one day decided that was enough of the excessively negative feedback. Same with more recent departures like Bandit. I could go on.......it's a long list of folks who just don't find the discussion worth the hate-back. Most of the people I know personally from tailgating etc.. on this board gave up posting a long time ago but still read or moderate etc.. In general there are just too many insecure, miserable people who feel first and think later online..... just because they CAN. As the saying goes.........those that think see life as a comedy........those that feel see it as a tragedy. I'm a person who doesn't take much seriously. I don't get furious about attacks on me.........I laugh and give it back and then some. That's how I deal with snark and that's the only reason I'm still here contributing. Take a look at this branch of the discussion. I've offered actual facts, stats and historical perspective. The replies? Evasive and HIGHLY subjective.....stat-free, fact free. It should be embarrassing to those people, but it's not. Because they are online. I've always said I wouldn't post anything here that I wouldn't say to that person at a tailgate...........and it's true. But IRL it would never get that far because when you know me you know I'm not saying things about the Buffalo Bills to offend anyone. I joke with my friends about their BS and I take return abuse just fine. As for me being married? Yes. And no, I LITERALLY never fight with her because I think first before I emote. Does that tell you something? I also have 5 kids. How many do you have and what would that tell someone about you? It would tell me nothing of import about your character, btw. As for me saying you would be too thin-skinned to handle the criticism I or Scott get........your reaction only supports that. You'd join the list of people whose contribution would be missed. Think of me as helping keep you here.

It was an even distribution of investment on both offense and defense? LOL that's ridiculous. First you've taken a VERY subjective, fact-free assessment of losses. In reality.......they lost a near identical amount on both sides of the ball..........3102 snaps on D to 3042 on offense. Major defensive losses: -Levi Wallace........994 snaps. - Two ROTATIONAL edge rushers.........Hughes played 550 snaps and Addison played just 482.......Rousseau had the second most snaps on the edge(530) not Addison. - Three ROTATIONAL DT's..........Phillips played 474 snaps and Lotulelei just 317 and Vernon Butler played 285. Major offensive losses: - Starting boundary receiver........Sanders played 747 snaps - Starting slot receiver........Beasley played 691 snaps - Starting OG/RT and a rotational guard........Williams played 1172 snaps Jon Feliciano 442 snaps. The quality of players they've added on offense is much lower than what they've added on defense. Now you could say they played less snaps on defense.........I'm sure that's so..........but that's kind of my point.........they already had the #1 ranked defense in the NFL and they not only replaced their losses........they used their top 2 chips in UFA and their 5th #1 pick on D in 7 opportunities to improve that side of the ball. The offense, particularly the OL and the lack of speed at receiver, was filled with LESS productive players than those that left.........or not at all in the case of Sanders position. And I'd add that the Bills had more in reserve on defense to start the offseason with too. Dane Jackson proved to be a solid starter and Tre White is on schedule to return so there might not have even been a starting spot for Levi in 2022. Boogie Basham was a 2020 second round pick who they couldn't even find snaps for so one of those rotational DE's had to go whether they inked Miller or not. There wasn't comparable pedigree/track record in reserve and under contract to replace departing talent on offense. Bates was about all they had in reserve on offense and he wasn't under contract.......he accounts for more than 1/3 of the guaranteed money they spent on free agents/draft picks on offense. It's not complicated: $90M > $25M ...........3x the investment in UFA and 3x the investment in the draft. It really isn't justified to suggest that it wasn't decidedly lopsided.