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You can't take emotion out of it. These are people and their livelihoods. To let a player go that isn't totally commited to what you are trying to do isn't always stupid. Sure he is good and better than what we have at the position. He isn't Earl Thomas, the money wasn't sat on - it was used to upgrade the team, and the Bills negotiated on good faith. Number 4 has 2 sides to it. Holding a player hostage can cause problems in the locker room. There are limits but letting a player dictate his future happens from time to time. It can be abused by the players but I don't see this as the case. Byrd wanted to go to a winner. Would he have laid it all out there on another 1 year deal? We don't know but if we use last year as the measuring stick then it would be safe to assume no. I was in favor of resigning him too. It takes 2 people to make a deal. Both sides have to want it. Byrd didn't want it so there is no deal. Not everything has to be someone's fault. Part of my reasoning was that he wouldn't have been the highest paid for long with salaries going up as fast as they are. That apparently didn't matter as much as going to a winning team did. I don't fault the Bills for their efforts or allowing Byrd to go look for a deal, and I don't fault Byrd for wanting out. C'est la Vie.

I would be very pleased with a Matthews Niklas combo from the first 2 rounds. That would make the bills bigger, better across the line, and offer another huge target for EJ. I'm not sure if Matthews will still be there at 9 and if he isn't I would prefer a trade down to drafting Ebron at 9.

Earl Thomas signed a 4 year extension making him the highest paid safety. http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/28/earl-thomas-contract-extension-seattle-seahawks-four-years-40-million/

Well said this is pretty much exactly my feelings as well. It will most assuredly look different hopefully the results improve (and there still is plenty of room to improve imo)

I agree completely that the offense caused some of the defenses struggles. The best thing Pettine did for the defense (and I don't know if it was all him or what) was the growth I saw in so many players last year. Hughes, McKelvin, Dareus, and A Williams all looked so much better than they did in Wanny's D. Was that them or Pettine? I don't have any clue but I would imagine the players are better for their experience last year. The bolded is what I was driving at. If you look at the list of potential replacements Schwartz would most likely have been high on the list. People were also mentioning Henderson or Pepper Johnson who will both be on staff this year. I think everyone would have loved to keep Pettine but Schwartz was probably the best (or close to it) replacement. I also agree September can't get here fast enough.

A ton of sacks and horrible run defense along with an amazing ability to give up 3rd and long. I will gladly trade some sacks for more stout run d and more consistency. That said, this doom and gloom in APRIL is absurd to put it kindly. The draft hasn't even happened yet and we have no idea what the defense will look like. Schwartz isn't a dinosaur who had his success in the early 90s like Wannstache did. Will he be successful? Who knows. The picture is way to incomplete to decide one way or another. Who would you have hired for the d coordinator position in February? I think Schwartz was an excellent hire and could be just as wrong but can we at least wait until he has done anything besides hold a press conference or do a radio interview before we cast judgement?

She should have been filming while driving instead of face booking then she would have been completely safe and nothing bad could've or would've happened to her.

Who would you think the target would be then?

NFC Executive: Teddy Bridgewater is a "Fourth-Round Guy" some quotes from the link... "The NFC executive said that he thought Bridgewater was a "fourth-round guy" and will fall out of the first round." "Another scouting director picking in the top 20 that could consider a quarterback told us that his team never had Bridgewater as a first-round pick." "Six different franchises, including those three in the top 10, have said they believe that Bridgewater is going to fall much lower than expected on draft day and could easily drop out of the first round because teams aren't grading him as a first-round pick." _________________________________________________________________________________________ A late riser seems to be Carr. He is now being talked about in some places as a top 10 pick! from the same link just further down the page: "One NFC team picking in the 20s told us that they expect the Minnesota Vikings to take Carr with the eighth-overall pick, unless he is selected by the Raiders at No. 5 overall."

Yup I've got a thought: Cancer that stupid no good disease has cost more :censored: people close to me their life than I care to think about. The "c" word is always a scary one. I never feel optimistic when I hear about it. Even after people are "cured" it seems like a matter of time before it comes back to rear it's ugly head. Horrible disease. I know people have to die from something but this is a way to go. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.

Somewhere Big Cat just got sad Off topic I know but I laugh way to hard at those sayings.... Confucius say man who stand on toilet high on pot Confucius say man who fart in church sit in own pew Yeah I know my wife rolls her eyes at me all the time too

I agree and want him to be here long term. I just think (more hope) that is their line of thinking. Me personally I would have already done it. I have zero behind the scenes knowledge though and am only going off of what I see on the field. I am in total agreement that he is a part of putting the best possible players on the field.

I did some more thinking about this subject. Vets report tomorrow for some voluntary workouts. Perhaps the team is waiting to see if he shows, what kind of shape he is in, his demeanor, etc... Perhaps the next week and a half will go a long way to showing the team whether he is worth the investment. Just thinking out loud but it makes sense to me that they want to gather as much info as possible before making the decision. (I have officially stepped back from the ledge lol)

Except in this case bpa would match a need for the team. So needing a rt and having the best player available be a rt makes it a natural fit. The bills don't have 2 pro bowl tackles playing. Your constructing an argument without using the pertinent facts and information. As for the "can be filled with a second or third round pick" yes it can. However doesn't it stand to reason that the player EVERYONE is saying is a top 10 talent should be better than whoever you could get in 2nd or 3rd? To no saints question of which rt would I trade the 9 pick for I can't really name one. Then again I would say the same about many positions save for qb. If you were to make a list of all nfl players you would trade for the #9 pick I would imagine you would have a hard time finding 25 players that aren't a qb worth that trade. Matthews might not be the exciting pick that Evans or Ebron would be but he definitely fills a need and does so without reaching. Fluker at 11 last year wasn't as highly rated as Matthews is this year so for the 2 extra spots I don't see it as a reach. If Matthews is gone I would view lewan as a reach because he isn't as talented as Matthews. If Matthews is gone I will be rooting hard for a trade down.

Thanks I honestly don't know if this is a master troll job or if people actually think like this!

I feel like I am taking crazy pills reading this thread. You bring up last year's draft as if it were somehow relevant to this year's draft and the talent on the Bills. Matthews played Rt every year before this so that projection that you are so sure of is based off of him playing rt. Bloodline means nothing. How are Michael Jordan's kids doing in the NBA? Oh yeah they don't play in it. As for where they were drafted by that logic Ryan Mallet should be starting for the Pats*. He was drafted in the 3rd round and that Brady guy was drafted in the 6th. Glenn has been a stud in the NFL. If by some crazy happenstance Matthews beats him out sure you start Matthews at LT. Except there won't be a competiiton. They will work with him at RT to give him as many reps and as much practice as possible. The whole losing Glenn idea is ridiculous to me as Glenn will be here for at least 2 more years. If he proves to be great probably much longer than that. Drafting Matthews does't ruin the chances of anything. The whole you can get a serviceable rt later is true. However he is projecting to be a great one and that is why he is talked about in the top 10. I feel very strongly that Matthews will be the pick if he is available. Reading the OBD tea leave, Matthews has been in a for a visit, there was just an article about how good Marrone thinks Glenn is, and RT is the reamining position to be addressed of the original offseason list (run stuffing lb - Spikes, Te- Chandler resigned, maybe Kaufmann, OG - Williams, WR - Williams.). If he isn't available I'm thinking trade down but that is a different thought for a different thread.

I just don't see any reason not to do this. If they want to extend him this is one less year that they will need to work on for the extension. If they don't want to extend him it is one more year they will have him around for. Being late to meetings doesn't strike me as big enough trouble to not keep him around. Especially with some of the character questionable guys they brought on board this offseason.

Already on record as liking this guy. This move is definitely interesting I hope it pans out for him.

Tre masons name has seemingly disappeared from discussion. I really like his running style and would love to see him be the back picked in the trade down scenario. How do you think he fits, where is he projected, and what team are you thinking hell end up on?

Don't worry about WEO he's our resident pats* fan/ smarter than everybody else troll. He will pick a random passing statement and try to make a mountain out of a molehill. As for this story this to me is a long way from roethlisberger status. The second situation caused the girl to be uncomfortable. That is a long way from rape or even serious misconduct. It could be anything from rough sex to rape. Broad brush strokes used here. Also the first situation is just as difficult to gauge. Anywhere from consensual sex to rape. Anywhere from school overprotecting an asset to a gold digger trying to get paid. These situations are never black and white and we, so far removed, can only speculate on them. The one thing it definitely does is speak to his decision making. Namely putting himself in this situation more than once. That is the red flag. Similar (but not the same) as the red flags surrounding manziel who repeatedly had his name in the news for all the wrong reasons. Not the same circumstances but situations that will have to be investigated further by gms.

It wasn't me you were responding too but I had to respond to your post. You are proving my point for me. There are many more rbbc teams than teams who rely on one guy to do it all. The bell cow bak that is mentioned later on. Also McFadden and Spiller's injury histories are completely different. Spiller got hurt and played McFadden appears to be made out of glass. Why does spiller have to be something he isn't though? He was drafted as a waterbug back. He wasn't drafted as an ap type back. Expecting hi to be something he isn't will lead to disappointment.

I feel even stronger about this now. The draft is still so far away it's hard to care about something for this long while waiting on edge liked it used to be. We aren't 7 and this ain't Christmas.

That list is terrible! Steven Jackson - way over the hill Mendenhall - retired Mjd - maybe when he's not injured Matthews - 1 good year out of how many after how many years in the league? McFadden - so injury prone you can't count on him Morris - check his reception numbers runner only Reggie bush - check his rushing numbers more of a spiller type back and def not someone you would count on for 3rd and 1 Trent Richardson - bro do you even football? He is terrible! Which leaves: Gore - age and injury concerns also more of a pound the rock type guy than a receiver Foster - I think his better days are behind him his usage was crazy the 3 years previous to this bit I'll give him to you Doug Martin - looked terrible last year before getting hurt Stacy and lacy each were rookies last year but certainly look to be feature backs but could just as easily go the Doug Martin route There are some but you really only listed 4 guys who are proven and coming off of years where they did so again. It just isn't the way the game goes anymore. For 3rd and 1 the bills have Fred Jackson (who didn't have much success himself last year with those). I think you will find many more teams subscribe to te rbbc approach and have 2 guys. Run down that list of teams and I think you'll find it is a much longer list than the teams who have a do it all guy. Spiller to me is falling victim to the donte whitner issue. Forget that he went #9 are the Bills better with him or without him? I honestly don't see how they would be better without him. No player in Buffalo gets any slack for getting hurt...

According to si grant is gone too. Nothing official but it is on syracuse.com I was really holding out hope he was coming back!

C'mon you can dooo it!