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I know this is just anecdotal evidence but... I was sitting 2 rows behind Noel when he came to the Dome. If you recall he was really good friends with MCW. It happened to be the game where JB got into it with MCW and had to be restrained by other coaches. Then JB benched MCW for the rest of the game. Shortly after that interaction Noel got up and did not return to his seats. I knew then he wasn't coming to SU.

He was very lucky when it came to injuries. The following year both Kyle and Aaron Williams missed a good chunk of time. As we can see they are both major contributors to this defense. He had knowledge of 4 teams on the schedule because we played the NFC North that year. He had played against 3 of those teams twice a year for many years and coached the 4th. Why did you stop after the 3rd season with Schwartz? He was there for 2 more years and his teams went 4-12 (crash and burn using your words) and 7-9. In 5 years as a HC he had 1 winning season. Rex in 7 years has had 2 losing seasons. Surely you see a difference there. It absolutely is his d and I have said as much. Just like it was Schwartz's d when he was the HC in Det. If we are truly going to compare them lets look at there D rankings while both were HC. Schwartz went 32, 21, 23, 13, and 16th ranked defenses over his 5 years. Why the disparity? It is because as the HC even if it is your d you don't have the same level of responsibility, input, and control as you do when you are the DC. I truly get the disdain for Rex. However this comparison between Schwartz as a DC and Rex as the HC is poorly constructed.

It absolutely is Rex's defense. Run by Dennis Thurman. Just like 2013 was Rex's defense run by Mike Pettine. It really isn't a hard concept to grasp (look I can be condescending too! ). If Rex was the DC we could have this conversation but he isn't, he is the HC. It is an apples to oranges comparison. I posted for you how poorly Schwartz's defense was while he was a HC. What is the difference? Are you telling me it wasn't his d? Schwartz is a great DC and I was sad to see him leave. He oversaw a defense that performed fantastically, no argument from me. He was incredibly lucky with regards to injury and had intimate knowledge of 4 of the opponents that were faced that year. That defense exceeded expectations. Last years did the opposite. However there is no guarantee that he would stay as the DC and he wasn't a very good HC.

Here are my posts from the other thread. Schwartz is a very good dc. You can't compare his numbers to Rex because Rex is the HC. If you want to say that Schwartz is a better DC than Dennis Thurman I don't think anyone will take an issue with it. Stop with this false correlation. Look at Schwartz's d rankings while a HC and compare those to Rex. I already did the work for you and it is right here. Rex is a better HC than Schwartz as shown by their track record. Rex hasn't been a DC for almost 10 years so we can't really compare them as DCs.

This should be a fun year for the fans. As you guys stated they actually can fill up the bucket! It seems that Franklin Howard is the whipping boy for Jimmy B this year. Less than a minute into the game he had Gillon sitting at the scorers table for him. I don't know what he did wrong but Jimmy gave him an earful a few times last night.

I agree with Johnny that this team appears to be very deep and talented. They were playing against Colgate but there is a lot to be encouraged by. 1. Roberson looked great. He played with the energy that is missing from time to time. If he takes to the leadership role I see him being the go to guy on this team 2. The grad transfers look great. Gillon is a little sparkplug. He dumped 7 quick ones in the last minute of the first half to really stretch the lead. White also looked really good as you can see from the box score. 3. Franklin! I don't know why I love this guy but I do. He played really well and was humble in the post game interview. He had more 3s in this game than all of last year. When asked about it he said "well it wasn't that hard to do" lol. 4. Lydon, Coleman, Chukwu. There is size and depth! Coleman is obviously limited and Chukwu can't hit a ft to save his life but big bodies are always coveted. Chukwu looked really fluid on the court for a big man. 5. Thompson and Battle looked good out there for Freshman. Battle is HUGE. 6. It looks like it might be a 9 man rotation for Cuse which to me has been there biggest downfall in recent years. They had 0 depth and guys were playing 39-40 minutes a game and getting gassed by Feb. Should be a fun year for Cuse!

Should have never left. He could've been a top 10 pick if he stuck it out this year. I don't blame guys for chasing the money but if they thought long term and about their second contract (where the real money is in the NBA) it would have been a better idea to stick it out. Add him to the list of Cuse guys that left too early.

Yeah I couldn't bet on a TB team that is as bipolar as this one. I also couldn't bet against the Seahawks as they are money in November and on prime time (even if the league helps a bit).

I like the idea of a TE in the first 2 rounds. Being able to run a 2 te set seems to fit more what the Bills want to do. I think a S in round 1 has a high probability of happening. TE/WR in round 2, then OT. I wouldn't mind if this is one of those drafts where they spend all of the picks on just a couple of positions.

My rules for survivor: Avoid division games as they are tricky and can go either way Avoid road teams if at all possible. Unfortunately that would lead me to suggest the Jets over the Rams.

Opening Night! Time to start the ritual again. 5 guys on the way then the long trek up the hill. 2 years ago I found an amazing parking area that is free and I've parked there since without issue. If anyone heads to a game pm me and I will give you directions. Easy to find as it is right by Marshall St. Things I'm looking forward to seeing: Lydon's growth - So glad he came back as it was the right choice imo. Franklin! - came on at the end of last year will be interesting to see if he has continued to improve Battle - Can't wait to see if the hype delivers Chukwu - 7'2" is literally huge and I want to see if he is more Chino or Arinze Roberson - When motivated he makes the team go. Now that it is "his team" I want to see if he can be motivated all the time. Grad Transfers - Some vet leadership for a young team. Can they fit in quickly?

Seriously. Nightime in Nigeria don't bother with 4merper4mer. He is a troll that is allowed free reign here for some reason. Chef Jim is arguing semantics for god know what reason. Marijuana is an interesting conversation. Older generations bought hook, line, and sinker that it is terrible and good for nothing. I have a long standing belief that the demonizing of marijuana is a huge problem. Kids are told that weed, coke, crack, and heroin are all bad for you and then they experiment with weed. They find out it isn't so bad and wonder if the others are as bad as advertised. I also believe firmly in medicinal purposes as I have seen first hand the relief it allows some people.

For those saying it wouldn't matter.... Would be a 1 score game with the Bills getting the ball back. Ridiculous sequence

There is also no proof that he would have stayed. As a HC (I'm assuming in charge of the D by your definition) Schwartz had the Lions D ranked 32, 21, 23, 13, and 16. Schwartz is a very good DC but your pining for something that may or may not have been possible to do and then lamenting that the Bills should have done it. Also how would Schwartz have done last year with the injuries to Aaron Williams or Kyle Williams. I have posted many times about the difference in games missed between the 2 years. Finally, Schwartz didn't take over a terrible d in Philly and turn it around. Fletcher Cox and the rest of the d line are very good. Their lbs are very good. The only questionable part is the Secondary. The trouble with the Eagles D was Chips offense.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. I also remember that 2014 defense but moreso the 2013 defense as giving up critical 3rd down after critical 3rd down. Where is Pettine now? I'm kind of surprised he wasn't part of the Rex bringing all of his guys back.

Just a quick correction here. He has played in 122 games and indeed was the starter for 113 but he has been in the league since 05. So his teams have played 185 games in that time. For 63 games he earned that money holding a clipboard which ain't bad work if you can get it. Also through his first 3 years he played 6 games and as a 7th round pick made peanuts. Once he began starting and "taking lumps and big hits" he has earned the lion share of that money making your 4 million number a slight misrepresentation.

Isn't it a false correlation though? Rex isn't the D- Coordinator he is the HC. Schwartz has a much different job and it is one that both he and Rex have excelled at. Is the argument that Schwartz should have been the HC? I'll put that to rest by bringing up his 29-51 record over 5 years and 1 winning season in that time. Rex has coached for 7 full seasons and had a losing record twice. It is up to each person to decide what they think of Rex as a HC but I don't see how anyone can say Schwartz is a better HC than Rex.

I think the knowledge is likely lacking even more and goes something like Pearl Harbor, Nazis, D-Day, Nukes. That said I can remember asking in school about the Pacific Theater as it is where my Grandfather fought and a teacher telling me that wasn't the important part of the war! Bad teachers aside, Iwo Jima, Battle of Okinawa, Japanese POW camps etc... either get no mention or brief mention of hey those guys that planted the flag! indeed!

What is the argument in this thread? Don't we all agree that he is a very good d coordinator? Don't we all agree that his track record as HC leaves quite a bit to be desired?

Nope Titans. He is killing it right now with 3 catches for 59 yards on the season.

It is indeed. I always thought that about the pacific theater in ww2 as well. When people discuss or the subject is taught it focuses on Nazi Germany but not really the atrocities happening on the other side of the world.

You don't remember Jace Amaro after he got hired? "(Bowles) came in telling us that he expects to win," Amaro told Sirius XM NFL Radio on Monday, per Newsday. "He's not really playing around with everybody being late. We had an issue with that last year. I think guys just weren't accountable last year as much they could be. And I think that's the biggest thing." Amaro said Bowles is "making sure that everyone's going to be 100 percent in or you're not going to be on the team, so that's really going to filter out toward the guys."

No lol. No way a personality as big as Rex goes to that game and doesn't either get put on camera or put on Twitter by a fan.

I thought about how the Cle-Cubs series was great for baseball and thought about what would the equivalent be in the NFL. I think it would be Minnesota vs Buffalo. 2 0-4 in the SB teams. Teams that have gotten so close but couldn't finish it off and 1 would be guaranteed to lift that curse.

You used to but I don't hear it that much anymore. I'm sure BB still does this but I wonder if it is still the norm. When you look at Tony Dungy, Andy Reid, and Joe Philbin who all had kids with issues and who have all stated they wished they were around more, I'm not mad that Rex took some time to go support his son. Either way there is more than 1 way to skin a cat. My favorite part about Rex is the fun that he seems to have with this game. He went to see his kid play football and I don't think anyone can question Rex's love of the game or dedication to it.