CodeMonkey

I'm trying to figure out who the 2nd proven WR that he mentions is.

What's the fun in being an optimist when it comes to football? Why can't you just see things how they are, not artificially bad or good?

They don't have the game on in the Amsterdam Coffee shops?

The offense is the same as last season, so while you could legitimately say stagnant, regressed seems illogical. This team had gone downhill for 10 years to become the gigantic turd you saw last season. That took 10 years to create, it did not happen overnight. And getting the team back to respectability will also not happen overnight. You only get so many early draft picks per year, and Nix believes in building through the draft and only supplementing with FAs (which I happen to agree with). Frustration is natural in this case. But this, unfortunately, will require patience. And a little warning, don't expect much better this year in the W/L column. Next draft hopefully the offensive line will be addressed and the Bills will start to resemble a NFL team again.

Now there's a guy who REALLY thinks the Bills are going to over achieve this season

No, posts above declared that the fish were a lock for last and would go 0-6. I was not stating that would be how the Bills made out.

The "pessimists" blame the Bills in some capacity. A particular player like Trent last season. Or TO not trying for example. Or ****ty coaching, decent players not wanting to live in Buffalo, Ralph being cheap and so on. The "optimists" tend to blame bad luck, injuries, the refs being biased (if you don't think this is true read some threads from last season, they were an eye opener), the media hating Buffalo, the NFL wanting to move the Bills out of Buffalo, Ralph for the Toronto series and so on. The only common ground seems to be blaming Mr. Wilson. At least that's what I remember from seasons past.

No. You would base it on the entire 4-12 season. But like eball said, no reason to get your panties in a bunch before even the first preseason game is played.

Some of you guys are setting yourselves up for a potentially very big let down. Lock for last in the AFC East 0-6 in the division. If we lose to the fish and/or end up behind them in the AFC east we are going to have to put you guys on suicide watch

I look forward to the year the 2-6 flips to 6-2 You do paint a beautiful picture my friend.

Good Lord is a mass exodos!

I recognize the fact that I am generally not capable of being what you call a risk taker. My makeup makes me look logically (at least to me) at a situation and make what I believe to be an accurate assessment, without emotional bias. But that's what's great about sports in the US, people like us with very different outlooks enjoying the same team and having open discussions about it!

And keep Fitz out of the obituaries.

I disagree with your premise that a "fan" needs to profess blind faith that the team is great, going to make the playoffs/superbowl or whatever. You and others may choose to do so and that's your choice and of course are welcome to it. But others may enjoy candid discussion of the merits (or lack thereof) of their favorite teams players, coaches, office, etc. In my opinion anyway, this does not make them any more or less of a fan of the team. My hope is that everyone would recognize this and stop trying to tell others how to think, talk, or enjoy their favorite team.

I know that some are thinking 9 wins or more, potential wildcard etc. but these same people had the same outlook this time last year. I personally don't see 8 wins this season, much less 9. And I am more than OK with that. After the pathetic first draft of the Nix era, I think this draft shows great promise. I fully expect the defense to be improved this season, and if "lights out" can stay on the field perhaps greatly improved. But the defense is still far from being a powerhouse, and the weaknesses in the offense are still there. Couple that with playing in the AFC East and that adds up to a sub .500 season in my opinion. What I hope to see this season is a defense we do not have to be ashamed of and a team that looks like they have a plan for the future. Yeah maybe my goals are not lofty enough for some and maybe I am too used to the decade plus of suck. But then again, Rome was not built in a day either.

My balls itch.

If you can't dream now my friend then when can you

These things make them "explosive"?

They stay with your momma.

Fitz has been, well, Fitz. Most throws are pretty accurate and strong with the occasional "who the F was he throwing that too?" head scratcher. I personally hate his 3/4 semi-sidearm delivery, but so far anyway he seems to be the Fitz from last season. I think you are right, there is some of both going on. But we will begin to find out shortly as the first preseason game is not far away.

I personally think they do not warm up enough before practice. Go watch if you can. A few come out early and warm up properly, the other 90%+ walk out and stand around bullshitting until the horn blows and they do 10 minutes of group warm ups. Not nearly enough in my opinion. You will never eliminate the contact related injuries, that's just a fact of football life. But I am convinced if they all warmed up properly a lot of these silly muscle pulls and other non contact related injuries would go way down. And they should be able to do this on their own like the 10% I mentioned earlier. They are professional athletes and should not need their mommies holding their hands and forcing they to warm up before a practice. Just my $0.02.

I agree that is probably his break even point.

Well, "giving away" for $8.75 He did practice today (Sunday 8/7).

He is in full pads and practicing. I am not there but had my son text me the report Raining there now so not sure for how much longer they will stay outside.

I'll post on that this afternoon.