chris heff

Could not have said it better.

Finally the kind of reaction I expected. My reading comprehension is fine, I just don't believe Kolb will be the starter. I'm not going to go through the entire list of back ups that may be better than Kolb, nor extoll the virtues of my Little League football team's QB, who was Rick Finn (Rick was better with his legs than his arm). I will ask you this, within our own division the backups as of today are, Ryan Mallett, Matt Moore and Geno Smith. Would you make a straight up trade of Kolb for any of these guys?

I agree, the only think that could make this more shocking is if Kaepernick was wearing a Biils hat. Nobody that isn't a Bills fan buys Bills stuff. No kid trying to put more hip in his hop buys a Bills hat.

I don't think Kolb sucks, I think he is a good veteran back up. I also think he was the best option available to the Bills. I don't think EJ s going to fail. I agree with you. I am a little more pessimistic about Kolb. I am more hopeful in our QB situation than I have been in years.

So to kind of get back on point here, I think Jaws ranking of Kolb is too high. I'd rank him around 50. Based on his past performance I would say there are about 17 back up QBs that are better. Don't misunderstand me, this is not personal. I be said this before, he lost the starting job twice with two different teams. I know he lost the job in Philly due to injury, however the fact that they brought in Vick at all says to me that they were not fully confident in Kolb. Vick was still pretty polarizing at that point. I'm sorry I don't buy the argument that in Arizona he didn't fit the system and played behind a bad OL. If he had shown anything there he would still be there.

Hopefully he won't get hoof and mouth.

Barkley would have been my second choice. I think at some point this year he starts. The two guys that seem to be definite first rounders in 2014 draft are Bridgewater and Boyd, are these guys more NFL ready than Manuel? The next two are Carr and Manziel. Are they ready? Two of these four guys are Juniors.

Of course Manuel is more likely to fail than succeed. How many guys really succeed as an NFL QB? Every year how many are successful? Ten, fifteen ? The league is full of guys that weren't NFL ready at all positions. Everyone drafted after the third round and all UDFA aren't considered as ready. I watched most of FSU's games last year. I was intrigued my Manuel, thought he was the best QB in the draft. I don't think Jimbo Fishers offense played to Manuel's skill set. I understand that a college coach can't be constantly changing his offense to suit a QB who may start for a year or two. That being said both Manuel and Ponder were pretty successful in that offense. I think Ponder is better suited for it. In the NFL a coach can build around a QB skills, they hope to have the guy start for ten years. So what would you have done? Taken one of the other QBs in this draft? Kept Fitz? Traded for Alex Smith or somebody else? Free agency? Wait and draft somebody from this years college crop? Since Kelly retired the Bills have traded a couple of times, drafted in early rounds, including Manuel, a couple of times, mid rounds a couple of times, late rounds a couple of times and some really lack luster free agents. Because of the rookie compensation structure taking a QB in the first round does not hand cuff a team for five years like it use too. In fact I read a article, before the draft, that said if there is a QB you want and need the best place to take him is mid first round. You won't over pay and if he works out you have an option on a fifth year. So why not take the guy with the most potential? NFL ready or not. By the way I always thought Losman was a goof ball

In your previous post you state that FSU offense was a one read simplified offense. One read yes but simplified? I live in FL and know some FSU fans, they can't even agree on whether that offense is simple or overly complicated. Pro style? Maybe but not really. Limited number of plays from multiple formations, it is hard on young receivers. Which complicates thinks for any QB. Comparing EJ Manuel to Ryan Leaf is a bad comparison. Ryan Leaf was and still is an immature punk, EJ appears to be anything but.

I am using an iPad, same operating system as a Mac. You missed the point, John C said Kolb knew his place as maybe a temporary starter and eventual back up. I said based on that quote he did not know. What exactly about Manuel's NFL career has led you to conclude he can't play?

Yup

Peters is still an Eagle.

Ok I'll play along. The only one is Jabari Greer, because he would still be with the team and I think he is better than McKelvin. Levetrie would have cost too much. Peters injured too much. Poz not goog enough Winfield and Clemens would not have helped badly coached awful teams.

His head was not in it last year, understandably so. He made a comment after a loss last year that it is just a game. I think he was being more philosophical than anyone thought. I hope he has delt with his grief. Not just for the sake of football.

Did the sequester eliminate two weeks?

This from "Kolb set for different QB competition" by Chris Brown. Does that quote sound like he knows his role? "So what about the perception that EJ Manuel is the long term answer for the franchise at the quarterback position?" “I don’t buy what’s being sold I guess,” said Kolb. “I just listen to what they tell me to do and roll on with it. I have a lot of confidence in my abilities and this offense and hopefully what I can do in it.” Sorry paste didn't work Kolb quote " I guess I don't buy what is being sold"

I can envision a scenario where the Bills have a rookie QB and two rookie WR.

And don't forget, Spiller gets winded. WR and CB make me nervous. Graham and Rogers were awful last year.

That reminds me, I'm hungry.

I can't really disagree. The fact that there was no back up plan if Fitz was not the answer is mind boggling. Your right about Kolb, the trouble with Kolb is he doesn't know what his role is. He thinks he has a shot at being the long term solution to the Bills QB problem. I don't think he will be either the long or short term solution. I am baffled as to why people think Kolb is anything more than a back up. Build an offense around EJ's skill set. They drafted him to play so play him. Give him as much help as possible.

As of right now if Stevie plays in the slot, are Woods and Graham on the outside?

His analysis begs the question why not just start EJ Manuel.

I know, I think 13 is too high not too low. No one, 13 is too high.

Kirwan lost me with the last section "Something to Prove". He thinks its a sep backward to lose an experienced GM, does he know that all of Buddy Nix GM experience came on his three years at Buffalo? Chan Is a loss? He was an OC not a head coach, by his own admission he didn't pay attention to the defense. Fitz forced the Bills hand so he could find a better situation. He knew his days as a starter with the Bills were numbered at best. He couldn't stay. I don't think Kolb will start but I think the Bills are better of with Kolb as a back up than Fitz. Fitz's presents could have created controversy.

Except that Kolb said "I don't buy what's being sold I guess". This was his response to EJ being viewed as the long term answer..