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    Trying to be reasonable here

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    1 hour ago, 26TrapDraw said:

    Use the same rationale for Beane trusting his evaluators instincts. Do you think if the Bills had a first round grade on worthy or Leggette they wouldn’t have taken him? They have a plan. Trust our GM and if in three years he gets fired because this draft was a disaster and it lead to losing then we will know won’t we. Truth is we just don’t know.

    even though we have lots of NFL caliber talent evaluators here.

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    I think one of my biggest issues is he had a presser last night saying absolutely expected to make a pick at 32. That tells me they had someone in mind and then he was taken between 28 and 32. Maybe that was Worthy, or Pearsal. Who knows. It was probably one of those DBs for all we know. Point is, he addressed it and said he was going to pick someone then didn’t. It’s odd to me. Even if he just had a great deal in place with Carolina is fine, but you miss the 5th year option on whatever player you’re taking. If that was a WR, CB, DE, he absolutely should have to answer for that considering all 3 of those positions require very large 2nd contract if they are good. It’s monetarily beneficial for that alone. 

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    Trying to be reasonable here

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    36 minutes ago, Virgil said:

     

    Prepare to be livid.  Based on how the WR's went, I think the draft grades on a lot of the receiver left might honestly make it to the end of the 2nd round, or close enough to trade up range.  

     

    If we stay at 33, I think the pick is DeJean and we hope Franklin or the UNC receiver is there later.  All of our pre-draft visits would support that theory

    If they take Dejean ill seriously…. Ugh…. I don’t want to think about it 

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    Trying to be reasonable here

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    Posted · Edited by mrags

    5 hours ago, NewEra said:

    So we should have stayed at 28 and drafted a player we could’ve had later, while not getting an extra 3rd rd pick….just so KC wouldn’t be able to give us a free 3rd rd pick in order to select a player that may have been there when they picked at 32?  🤷🏻‍♂️ 

     

    worrying about other teams = fail

     

    worrying about building your own team = yes please 

     

    do what’s best for your team.  Worrying about what other teams are doing is for losers.  Jmo
     

     

    I guess you read my post wrong. I was simply trying to explain that I don’t necessarily hate what happened as far as not taking a player. I like worthy, not as much as many here I’ll admit that. But I did like him. I was fine if they didn’t draft him and they have trades on other guys they like better. 
     

    And I generally do not care about giving another team the pick and taking the player they want anyway. Fact is, you’re correct, they likely would have gotten him anyway. I still don’t want to be the team to give it to them. Either way, still doesn’t bother me. 
     

    But it is noted the media brought up last night ok both NFLN and ESPN that it’s the Bills that gave up Mahomes, and laughed at us for how that has worked out. Here’s the thing, I generally don’t care about losing out on Mahomes. I’d honestly take Allen every time if I had the chance. I think Mahomes is a douche. But, it does kind of get old having to hear the same thing over and over again when someone brings it up. And we didn’t again. Granted it’s not one of the best QBs of all time we’re talking about so I guess there’s that. 
     

    even still, I don’t care about giving them a player and agree that we shouldn’t worry about other teams. I don’t. I’m just sick of hearing the same crap other and over. And if Worthy is the next Hill for KC, we will never hear the end of it. 
     

    someone here pointed out tho, that even though the Bills had no more first round grades on anyone and that’s why they’re back, it still could be that maybe Worthy or Legette or Pearsal (kind of a joke) were our next 3 WRs on board and now we don’t have an opportunity to pick one of them. In his presser last night Beane did say he expected to pick at 32 after the trade. So what changed? 3 guys at a position of need were now gone and we went with another trade back because of it. Which is fine imo. UNLESS….. you covet having the first round pick on someone for the 5th round option. And let’s be real about that here it isn’t huge advantage, especially on a position like WR, to get them for that extra year before they need to renegotiate a contract worth 20-30m.

     

    But I really was trying to say that I don’t feel terrible about what happened, I have positives and negatives for what happened. I hope they use those picks and move around today like Kevin Costner in draft day. Making it all worth it. 

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    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

     

    Yeah?

     

    I'm fine.

     

    Lotta years before we know how this worked out, but again, trading up as high and giving up as much as they'd have had to get one of the top three never made economic sense.

     

    I thought they might go up a bit for BTJ, but I guess they didn't like him as much as many thought. I'm just waiting to see how this all turns out. Might be great.

     

    Anyway, Day Two just got a ton more interesting, from one pick to three.

     

    Well. At the time I was seriously being sarcastic. Brian Thomas Jr hadn’t been locked yet. We were somewhere wound pick 20 I think. 
     

    personally, I think we had a deal in place with Dallas at 24. Then BTJ went at 23 and everything changed for us. I say this because Dallas took all but 12 seconds to announce their trade with Detroit. Which makes me believe they had a deal in place with someone and then at the last minute it fell through. So they scrambled for another deal. 
     

    im somewhat fine with everything for the most part. But as i wrote in my post about how things played out, we will look like fools if Worthy or Legette are stars in this league, no matter who we pick. 
     

    personally I think they may trade back again at 33. In Beanes presser last night they already said they were fielding calls. 

    Trying to be reasonable here

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    Posted · Edited by mrags

    Here’s where I’m at right now. 

    I would have been happy with Mitchell or McConkey at 28 without any trades. And we traded back and got, not extra picks, but made our later picks better in the process. 

    Now, if they go with that DB/S tomorrow at 33 I’m gonna be livid. 

    If they take Mitchell, McConkey, Franklin, I’ll be perfectly happy with it. As I would have been at 28. 

    Now; with that all said, you picked up the extra 3rd rounder, and now have some better ammo with the four 5th rounders. So i really really hope they are active tomorrow. Getting either an extra 2nd by moving back into the 2nd rd. Or moving up from 60 to the 40s or something. And then hopefully moving up in the 3rd again too. 

    I will wait and see what he does. 

    BUT……
    I am absolutely with most agreeing that you shouldn’t give KC the chance to take a guy that can smoke you for years to come. If worthy or Legette are the real deal in this league we look like fools again. No matter who we take.

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    Tyreek Hill in the news....again

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    Just now, cle23 said:

     

    He really can't.  If he's proven the father and the mother is awarded support, he can't do much after that.

     

    Also, you're making an awful lot of assumptions here. He admitted he has 10 kids.  Not like he is trying to say they aren't his. 

    My point was he’s a scumbag 

    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

     

    i would be good with that but you never know what a waste will be.

     

    Worthy and Franklin are too slim

     

     

    I think Franklin will be fine. We’re missing out 1 and 2 at this point. He kind of fits into Diggs role anyway and Diggs wasn’t exactly a thick dude. 
     

    as far as Worthy, goes, I feel the same way. We need a 1 and 2 now. So I’d be fine with Worthy, but want a bigger physical guy to pair with him. So I’d take Worthy with a trade down and an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder. Then come back up and try and get Legette or Polk. If those guys are gone, Devontez Walker, Rice, Baker.

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    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

     

    Having a ball hog ruins the offense, better to have 5 really good guys than 1 elite player. Coleman is also better than Davis so thats an upgrade.  Can a rookie be as great as Diggs coming in ??

     

    Also it would be a trade back to 33 which isnt much different than being at 28 and we also would get 39. 

    If we could still get like Franklin or Worthy, along with a Legette or Polk, I’m all for it. Anything less than that it’s a waste 

    Just now, Putin said:

    Exactly !! 
    Our practice squad can use an upgrade nobody here is even talking about that !!  

    Right. Need to find someone to wear the C on special teams after all. Get a whole team of Tyler Matakevichs I say. 

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    Tyreek Hill in the news....again

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    Just now, TBBills Fan said:

    He paying one way or other.  Those girls feel like they hit the lottery. When he busts inside!

    He ain’t paying. They can take his butt to court and he still won’t pay. 
     

    what are the laws in Florida, can they take it right out of his checks? If not he’s not paying. 

    1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

    Disagree on him having a football team. Tyreek thinks of his kids more as sparring partners.

    Let’s be fair, he likely doesn’t call them his kids and refuses paternity tests 

    Pre draft thoughts

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    43 minutes ago, Gugny said:


    You crossed a line. That was mean. I’m telling your wife about the time (just the first time) you grabbed my junk at hammers lot. 

    I don’t remember grabbing a p@$$y. Maybe my memory isn’t what it used to be 

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    Stadium Construction Discussion (No PSL/Seat selection posts)

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    48 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

     

    If Chicago ends up costing less that $2B I will have questions.

    Pretty sure that’s not gonna happen. But they are getting significantly more for their money. They are also getting parks and congregating areas included. Look like they are creating an outdoor space that would put the Buffalo Harbor area to shame included in the deal. Looked like lots of public parks and ball parks for the public as well. 

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    4 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

    That actually makes me like him more. 

     

    However my draft prep doesn't consist of "grading" or "watching tape". I'm going old school with the 5 minute eye test 

    I’d prefer a guy that doesn’t get high AF and eat enough snacks to show up to camp looking like Dion Dawkins

     

    4 minutes ago, Gugny said:


    Im more of a Pringles and Slim Jim kinda guy!

    yeah when you get high as much as you do, I’m sore you need to stick to the less greasy snacks and as low carb as you can get. Or you’d end up looking like…. Well, you. 

    1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said:

    Wondering if it is safe to say this is the biggest draft in the Beane era?  Even considering how big 2018 was?

    Agree 

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    Pre draft thoughts

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    1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said:

    Do we know that for sure?

    I missed that!

    Well. I missed Williams from the OP. But I started watching as they were interviewing Maye. Man I’m glad I didn’t take him in the mock draft for the Commanders. He looks like he was high AF and ready to sit in his car at the gas station and eat a whole bag of Cheetos, 6 nutty buddies, and 3 Gatorades. I expect that out of @Gugny but not a top QB prospect. 

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