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    Troy Franklin itch anyone...

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    Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

    I like Malik Washington too. Is it crazy that I still want 2 more WRs? It’s a weak spot on the roster and we can add some different skills.

    With all these damn 5th rounders we should be picking 2 more. Unless they trade up. Still waiting for that. 
     

    im with you 100% tho. I’d love to get 2 of those guys I listed. 
     

    give me Franklin now and then take Rice and I’d be a pig in chit. I’d even forgive them for the Coleman pick 

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    Troy Franklin itch anyone...

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    Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

    I’m good with Franklin moving forward. I like Baker a lot too. He’s another boom or bust guy but like him. Jacob Cowing is another guy that I have my eye on later. He’s small but quick. I don’t necessarily care that he’s a slot guy. We have a bunch of those. He’s a guy that gets open. 

    My list is just about ending there. The only other guys I really like are Taj Washington. Imo he’s more joystick than Malichi Corley. And I do like Rosemy-Jacksaint. But I feel like they might be available in UDFA. Who knows. I also kinda like McCaffrey just because his bloodline. He’ll probably be decent at least. 

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    Trying to be reasonable here

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    1 minute ago, Heitz said:

     

    My reply had nothing to do w Scott. 🤣

     

    I was reading the thread and your mischaracterization of Beane's quote, to make your point, caught my eye.   And then you double down with with "My point is made. He was expecting to make a pick."  Yeah, he probably was - until he got a trade offer. He wasn't going to just NOT make a pick or trade out.  🤷‍♂️ 

     

    I just find if funny when fans think they have so much more insight than people actually doing this NFL thing for a living. 🤔 

     

    Maybe the pick will be good, maybe it won't be, but since I can't see into the future I'm not out here calming I know either way  :beer: 

    My original post where I said absolutely was not quoting Beane. Someone else (not mentioning names) claimed I was quoting that. Then I my anger I got into a larger argument about what was actually said. And we were both wrong. But I’m sure Scott is happy you came to his rescue to stand up for him there. 
     

    You find it funny that fans think they know more than the pros. And maybe some actually do. At the end of the day Beane hasn’t exactly been great. Take away Allen and we’re a 6-8 win team every year if we’re lucky. What’s his next best draft pick? Milano? Oliver? Neither are absolute studs. He’s made some decent picks. Almost nothing after that, that’s special in any way. 
     

    I AM claiming that the pick sucks and will route for him since he wears a Bills uniform but have zero faith in him being anything better than Gabe Davis. Which isn’t terrible but we need difference makers at WR, not some guy. it’s more of the same at OBD. 
     

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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    I wanted Thomas too, and I am not saying he is going to be a bust.  But Thomas also hasn't proven he can be anything more than a go route guy yet, although I very much felt he was the 4th best WR in the draft.  

     

    This was a great WR draft, lots of guys have a lot of potential.  But I am telling you right now, Coleman is more ready to come in and be a WR1 than both Thomas and Legette are.  And I am confident Coleman will have the best season by most measurements than both of those guys.  If Thomas and Legette hit their potential, they could be great no doubt as well.  

     

    But Legette went to the worst place possible for him IMHO and I don't think Thomas landed in a great spot for him either because with the WR makeup, they will probably primarily use him as a deep ball guy and not sure he develops there like he could have someone where else.  

     

    Its also telling that people who know football...know WR's...just love Coleman.  So I think people condemning his future right now over a 40 time while ignoring his fastest time in the gauntlet which is a better indicator of in game speed are making a mistake.  

    I think he will be Gabe Davis at his best and James Hardy if he struggles. There’s my expectations of him. But hey, I’m actually shocked they took a WR to begin with. Really thought they felt they were good there. 

    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    Thats such a cop out...Coleman is playing on a spread the ball around offense loaded with weapons who will get targets in Shakir, Samuel, Kincaid, Knox, and Cook all getting targets.  Thomas should be the top guy there according to everyone on here.  And Legette will be WR1 and should be a feature, so he should see even more targets than Coleman.  

     

    So...yeah, I don't accept this rationale.

    Ok. I’m not disagreeing with your arguments. I’m also not debating that either of those 2 will be better than Coleman. But I have said multiple times, situation means more than most factors in how good someone becomes. Coleman has Allen, one of the best players in the game throwing to him. The shrimp in Carolina won’t even be in the league in 2 more years. And Lawrence isn’t on Allen’s level. But sure, I’ll go toe to toe with ya. I think Coleman sucks and I’m betting he won’t be nearly as good as Thomas and I’d be shocked he’s as good as Legette. 

    Trying to be reasonable here

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    5 minutes ago, Heitz said:

     

     

    I feel like you don't understand language if you don't think "I figured we would" is the same as "absolutely expected to". 🤷‍♂️

     

    Bigger picture, just because YOU think they had someone in mind and YOU think it's a terrible pick doesn't make it so... :beer: 

    just because you are in SDSs lap doesn’t mean you have to reply 

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    Trying to be reasonable here

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    Just now, SDS said:


    you still have Hawaii on the brain. You just quoted what you said in response to me. Here is your original post that I was responding to:

     

    “I think one of my biggest issues is he had a presser last night saying absolutely expected to make a pick at 32.”

    Yeah I edited it. I wasn’t quoting him in my OP. But you make it a point to make me look foolish by pointing out that I was wrong. So were you my friend.
     

    my Point is still made. He was expecting to make a pick. My point still stands. I believe they had someone in mind and they were taken between 28 and 32. 2 of those picks were WRs. Maybe it’s what we wanted. Maybe it’s not. We will never know. I still think it’s stupid to be happy about moving up from 6th rd to the 5th rd for the cost of losing the 5th year option on a player. Especially in a draft that many say there’s only 150 or so draft able players. 
     

    we’ll see what happens tonight. My hopes are in the dirt though. I expect much more disappointment from this joke of a GM, HC, Owner. 

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    Trying to be reasonable here

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    17 minutes ago, SDS said:


    I just listened to this after your comment. He absolutely did not say he absolutely was going to pick at 32. While I would have to go back to “his exact words, I think he said “we FIGURED we would pick at 32.” Then he said he talking to his friend Dan and they decided differently. 
     

    Figured is not even close to absolutely.

    Not sure what you listened to but I heard differently. And I never said “absolutely”. This is what I said

    19 minutes ago, mrags said:

    He 100% said he was ready to make a pick at 32 then his “buddy Dan Morgan called him” and here we are 


    What he said was:

    he said “honestly THOUGHT we would pick at 32…. But then talked to my buddy Dan”

     

    starts around 1:30 if you want to listen. 

     

    like I said. I admit I was incorrect. But you are also wrong saying I said “absolutely”

     

     

     


    edit:yeah yeah yeah. You’re going to go to my last post where I did say absolutely. I wasn’t quoting at this point. Whatever. I’m just doing things today. I’m not in the market for quoting this idiot GM 

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