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Sounds to me like Marshall is back to his old self and probably deserved what happened to him. Not saying it's a good thing he was stabbed but chances are that his wife didn't grab a knife and stab him for absolutely no reason.
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Just curious here. How do you go from drafting a QB in round 3 in your first mock and then not even have one in your recent one? Especially after Kaepernicks stock has risen? What has you turned off from him now all the sudden? His stock has gone up so much since the combine. Some mocks are e en sayi g he could be an early 2nd rounder. Just wondering why the changes.
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I generally agree with your post with exception that Newton and Gabbert are not 1st round picks. I personally believe Newton has every tool to make it big in this league IF he wants it. Unlike Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell. And Gabbert has almost all the physical gifts that one might need but seems to be a very intelligent kid and seems to be driven to do well. I'd also throw Kaepernick I to this bunch as he has possibly the mix of both Gabberts and Newtons best attributes.
I do agree that defenses win championships and you must have a real good team and defense all around to win which I think the Bills could have if they went heavy with defense in this draft and counted on Fitz to be the leader for at least a few more years.
At this point I'm putting my faith in Nix and Gailey that they will get the players that will not only help the team this coming year but will also be the future of this franchise. This is why BPA is the best option generally the best thing to do. The only way I would not do this is if there is the next franchise QB that we can take.
I'll play along tho with your picks
1. Von Miller
2. Adrian Clayborn/Sam Acho
3. Donte Moch
4. Virgil Green
4. Casey Mathews
5. Chykie Brown/Curtis Brown
6. Shiloh Keo
7. Best CB available
7. Best LB available
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If they threw in all 3 it wouldn't even take longer than 2 seconds to make that deal.
I don't care about Miller sacking whoever our QB is for the next 10 years. The da t about the Patriots is that Brady is getting old and will not be playing in the next 3-5 years. And if he does it won't be at the same level he is now. The cheaters will not be such a powerhouse when that happens no matter who their OLB is.
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my worry is if we pass on gabbert and he turns out to be a franchise guy. if we took gabbert and then went all D id be ok with it
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I want Newton, not Gabbert but I'm in this boat. Try for the franchise guy with the 3rd pick and then beef up the defense and lines with the rest of the picks. Unless Rudolph falls to us in the 3rd by some crazy circumstance. Or we can get Virgil Green in the late 4th or 5th.
Before you kill me for sayi g Newton over Gabbert, it's because I think Newton has a higher ceiling. And if were gonna gamble on QB in the 1st I want it to be the superior athlete. Newton might bust, but if he booms it's gonna be the biggest boom in Bills history.
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Hate to tell you, but Corner/Safety are needs. Albeit not the biggest, but still needs.
What he said.
Unlike many on this board I have realized that this is a complete need of this team.
1. McGee (as much as so many want to believe it's not true) McGee sucks now. His play gets worse and worse every year (been this way since before Greer left) and that when he actually plays. The guy is hurt so damn much it's unbelievable.
2. Florance (who was our best CB last year) is a UDA and most likely will not be resigned.
3. McKelvin was a bad decision when we drafted him. He's undersized and has not even come close to his expected potential. Hate to say bust but he's defenately not as realiable as we wish he was.
So Who are the other CBs on this team that you can rely on if your 3 best are always hurt, or not going to be here. Now I'm not saying you should draft a CB over a DL by any means. But it is just as big a need as DL or OL or LB. The fact is, if we can find a talent at any position that has the possibility of being a future pro bowler the. We NEED to take that player.
And to comment on the OPs point about WR. Same story different chapter. Stevie was great and should be the teams new #1 WR.
I feel as strongly about Lee as I do about McGee at this point. He's undersized, and is the poster boy for one trick pony. If he could do anything but run a deep route in a straight line we wouldn't be having this conversation but that's ALL he can do.
As good as Nelson and Jones were last season there's no guarantee they will add to thier resumes this year. For all we know we've seen thier best.
On to Roscoe. The guy hasn't stayed healthy for a full season since we drafted him. He's 170lbs soaken wet. I weighed that much as a sophmore in high school. This is the NFL my friend. Your gonna get hurt really bad out here. Oh, when he's healthy and doing well we all love him, but man is he ever healthy.
Easley might be our best WR and we don't even know it yet. The guy was phenominal in preseason last year. For all we know he's gonna be really good, but he could be injury prone as well, or he just might not be anything special.
Personally I like our WR core but I will not believe they are something they are not. There is no way to tell right now. And same as I said with CB. If you can get a supreme talent and potential pro bowler on your team why wouldn't you?
On to my final point. Our defensive front 7 might be the strongest position on our team as a complete turnaround from last year for all we know (not by any means saying this is, will, or even might happen) Lets look at it this way.
If we keep Poz, get back a healthy Batten, get back a healthy Merriman, Moats is the real deal like last year. Troupe and Carrington improve to the status they were drafted, Coleman comes back, and all the other DL we have perform to at least where we expect them to, then we have ourselves a much better run defense and a much better pass rush without doing anything. Like I said, i'm not saying it WILL happen for sure but we did address the DL and LB corp last year and in the offseason somewhat by resigning Merriman. IF even 50% of that happens were much better than a year ago. I realize someone could poi t out many things about the Front 7 as I did with CB, and WR. The truth is it's all potential at this point at DL, LB, and WR. My point to start this post was to say that CB is a need and IMO it's one of the biggest needs on this team.
I'm done with my rant. Flame away I don't care. But if we don't get a CB this draft or offseason we will be passed all over like we were run all over last year. You'll see.
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Great posts all around. Rocc, I agree with what you said quite a bit. And I'll take you up on your dream scenario.
1st Newton- Big boom or bust possibility here, I'm betting on boom and having our future franchise QB for 10+ years
2nd Clayborne- the DE we need badly
3rd Moch- with Clayborne, Moch, Moats and Merriman I'd be happy with this group
4th Green- the TE that Newton can rely on for years. He's a beast of an athlete, and a good run blocker
4th Mathews OLB/ILB- could be just as good as his Brother or father. I'm counting on bloodlines here. At worst he'll be a servicable backup.
5th Brown- were gonna need another CB at some point. I'm really hoping we keep Florence but it's not looking good right now. Brown from Texas could at worst case be a nickle/dime guy if not better.
6th Keo- when I look at this guy I see Polamalu. I'm not sure if it's the Pacific islander thing or if it's the way he plays. Maybe both. I'm ok with taking a chance on the kid and hoping he's a steal.
7th I don't really have anyone in mind for our 2 7th rounders. So just give me anyone that can contribute and fills a need on the team. Another CB, LB, OG, OT would be fine.
This would probably be my dream draft. Get the potential star QB and hope he pans out and beef up the Defense almost the rest of the draft.
Thoughts?
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Almost went with Jordan, but picked Dareus instead. Bring on the Big Boys!!
(when does voting close?)
Jordan is pretty big too ya know. I guess were deciding over a DE and a DT at this point. I took Jordan personally cause he can fill 3 holes. DE in a 3/4, 4/3, or DT in a 4/3 vs Dareus who can only fill the DT positions in either scheme.
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I'd be happy with Miller, Bowers, Quinn and even though they don't rank him, Cameron at #3. I also LOVE his info on Dontay Moch as his SLEEPER. If we got say Miller or Quinn in the 1st and Moch in the 3rd we would have our starting OLBs for our 3/4 for years. Quinn could play DE in the 4/3 also but I think Miller would still be our OLB in. 4/3. Some might say we would overload our LBs if we did this since were banki g on Merriman and Moats to be there AND healthy. So I'm a bigger fan of Bowers or Cameron as the 1st pick.
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I'd be happy with all those picks if this went down. I'd rather have Newton in the first IF he was there, if not, I'd rather have Quinn I think and depending on who was there in the 2nd i'd rather pass on Ponder for someone like Clayborne and take Kaepernick in the 3rd.
I'd be ok if Gailey really wants Ponder and thinks he can be the real deal. Other than that I'd want Newton or Kaepernick. Either way, I would be extremely happy with your draft. And honestly, I think the "pros" would give us decent to good grades for once if it happened.
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Aaron Rodgers went very late in his draft. There's multiple examples of players falling late in the first round or even into the 2nd or 3rd rounds when they are projected to go in the first. I look at Quinn almost exactly like Willis McGahee actually. Would have been a top 3-5 pick if he didn't have his injury but we ended up getting him at 22. Quinn COULD fall late into the 1st and some team COULD get the steal of the draft if he does. The Ravens might not be looking to trade up at all. They just might think his brain issue along with his suspension issue drops him right into thier laps.
Or he might be so damn good that they are looking to trade away every pick in this draft to get him. He might be that good. I think he's a monster personally.
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While I 100% completely agree with your point that the Bills need to fix some of thier problems and add to the fan excitement and hope for the team. I disagree with a few things.
1. Hockey in general will always be 2nd fiddle to football. Regardless of town. Your talking about the most popular sport (exception soccer) on the planet. Hockey barely stays afloat in terms of money making for thier teams. Years ago Galisano stated that even though every game sold out in the regular season the team still wouldn't profit off ticket sales unless the team made the playoffs.
2. In Buffalo if the Bills even make the first round of the playoffs the entire city would erupt like a volcano waiting to blow for the last 1,000 years. If you thought the parties at HSBC were crazy at the Atrium building then just wait to see the Bills make the playoffs. The entire town will have Bills fever.
To your point about signage bannings, I think that is more the NFLs thing than the Bills. The NFL is such a huge juggernaut that I think it's mostly prohibited because of TV purposes. The crowds are often seen on TV in the NFL as with hockey, not much of the stadium is shown.
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The 3 things that stick out and two are actual fact is:
his weight IS too small to be a DT in a 3/4, his college career is based on one actual year.
The only thing that is even remotely close to being a false is his view of being unmotivated. And ine can clearly state that it is not actual fact he is not, but way too many rumors say he is.
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Newton or Bowers in 1st
Carimi in the 2nd
Moch in the 3rd
Brown DB from Texs in 4th
Mathews with 2nd 4th
Virgil Green 5th
Shiloh Keo 6th
and after that I don't care if we get anybody. Or we could package the remaning picks with the earlier ones to move up a few spots here and there to male sure we get these guys.
This is my dream draft. Would love this.
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Is it that time of year again for a "how's Ralphs health?" thread? It seems like every offseason someone somewhere is running rumors that they heard Ralph is not doing well or is in the hospital or some crap. Not saying that you are starting this. Just saying this: why not forget about all this crap until we actually hear something is wrong or has happened? Ralph is alive and kicking. I can see it now. He'll be at the draft in the war room telling Nix to draft OJ Simpson this year cause he is the best running back out of college in such a long time.
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IF and that's a big IF, Ingram is there in the 2nd round and we don't take him I'll be extremely pissed. Worst case scenario, Ingram will most likely he a very good player. Comparisons to Emmitt Smith all over the place. As much as I LOVE Jackson and as much as I think CJ can and will be a good back in this league. The facts are this... Jackson is getting old (regardless of miles on the engine), you need 2 good backs on any team, and Ingram would be a huge impact player from the start.
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I hate, hate, hate that James Brewer pick. I would much rather have addressed CB or SS with one of those 4th round picks, and then taken Barksdale (who IMO is a much better RT than Brewer) in round 5. I actually doubt Barksdale is there in round 5. In response to a previous poster...I too like Shiloh Keo, SS from Idaho. He would be a great special teamer for the Bills and add depth to the safety position. He may be there in round 6.
Thanks Johnny. Sorry for the misspelling of his last name. Keo is going to be a steal in this draft IMO. He just screams steal to me. Reminds me a lot of Palamalu. I'm not going to say he'll be anywhere near as good. Just saying I think some team is going to get a good to great player (a starting SS) very late in the draft. I just hope it's us.
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Can I add to the list? I'd rather have Shiloh Tao if he's still there
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I have a funny feeling kaepernick will go at the end of day 1.
Personally I think round 1 is a bit of a reach for anybody. I can for sure see him going at the end of round 2. If he's there that late and we don't have a QB yet, some team may jump a few spots in front of us to snatch him up. My guess is the end of the 2nd for CK. If he's there in 3 and we don't take him by then it's a big mistake IMO
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I'd be a fan of the trade down and Colin in the late 2nd or early 3rd round.
However, I agree with your points about Nix and Gailey and if they think one of the QBs has the ability to be the teams next franchise guy. At the end of the day, if they think ANY one of these guys, Kaepernick, Newton, Gabbert, Ponder, Locker or Mallet can be that guy, I say take him. If it's in the first with Newton or Gabbert. Or after the 2nd with anyone else I say pick up your guy. I'll put my trust in them at this point. If Dick Jauron was still our coach I'd be very worried. These guys just make me feel better about it.
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For immediate results:
1. OLB
2. MLB
3. CB
4. SS
5. DE
I don't put DE higher in the list only because in the 3/4 it doesn't mean much for a pass rush. I put that on OLB which we might have with Merriman coming in (if healthy) Moats with more experience, and Batten becoming healthy. I really haven't been a fan of McGee (and his lack of ability to stay healthy) since we let Greer walk (I said it then in many posts that we chose the wrong corner) and McKelvin hasn't been the shut down corner that we all expected. Were really missing a quality MLB for our 4/3 sets and Poz has been the stro gest LB of the defense and that is sickening. Whitner being gone (although he wasn't that great) makes an immediate need for us. And even though DE SHOULDNT be part of our pass rush, if we picked up more quality and depth at OLB it should help in the pass as well as run defense.
For future impact:
1. QB
2. OLB
3. CB
4. NT
5. DE
Fitz, IMO could lead us into the playoffs IF we picked up all for immediate need but a superstar, "icon", franchise QB will keep us in the mix for years no matter what. It's a matter of bringing up the team and leading. Making other players believe we have a shot no matter the odds against us. Again as in immediate, the OLB position in a 3/4 is the pass rush and if we get a dominant enough athlete (Bowers or Quinn) they could play DE in a 4/3 as well. A stud, shut down CB will always be highly looked after no matter the defensive scheme. A true NT (I know Williams is great but he's playing out of position for the 3/4) is something we need. And we could really get 2 players with that spot because this means Williams could be moved to DE in 3/4 sets and DT where he belongs when we run the 4/3.
I'm a fan of future of the team. And with the depth of Defense in the draft I'd say take a shot at QB in the first and hope you don't bust.
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Not the most exciting mock Ive seen, but not horrible either.
I like the 1st pick and the 2nd is ok, although it feels like we're leaving talent on the board from rounds 2 through 5...
If I may do a "Capt Hindsight" Mock based off of this mock, and re-choose out of the players available at the time, my first 4 picks would be:
1. Newton
2. Heyward
3. Moch
4. Matthews
If our first 4 picks were this right here i'd possibly cancel my playboy subscription because this is all the excitement I'd ever need. Can we add Virgil Green with our second 4th? I'm still gonna beg for Shiloh Tao at some point too.
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tonyjustbcuz,
I understand a lot of your points. However, I think the 2 things that point on why to take a QB in round 1 is this:
1. If you believe there is a QB that could be a potential superstar (personally I think that Cam is this years huge deal, if you prefer Gabbert that's fine too) then you take him no matter what the potential is that he could boom or bust. Your shooting for the stars with your first pick. Hoping whoever it is, can be a playmaker for the next 10 years. No other position in football does that like QB and Newton is larger than life in that aspect. IMO he will be an icon and raise the team as well as people around it. He's the franchise saving pick IMO.
2. You stated already that the def at defense in this draft is very deep(especially at our positions of need). I think you take the POTENTIAL Star/BPA with the #1 pick and then fill needs and depth with every pick after that.
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I'd rather have Newton in the 1st. I dint see any point in drafting a position for a scheme we don't run. If we were gonna do that I'd rathe have Peterson in the 1st. At least he's the best player availabe at a position of need for the scheme we run.
I don't know much about Reed but everyone seems to like him so I'll assume he's a steal. I really liked Acho if he was available there instead myself. And if Ingram was there (regardless of our strength there) you almost have to take him.
I like Kaepernick in the 3rd. I'd also like Ponder or Locker at this point if available. This is all dependant on taking a QB in the 1st or not.
I'd rather have Casey Mathews in the 4th round as well as Virgil Green if available over White and Brown.
I'd also take Brown from Texas or Shiloh Tao here. Tao is going to be the next Palamalu type player in my opinion. I'm really big on him.
Plenty of changes could be made. I do like the positions drafted for the most part on the simulator. I'd just change the need ranges a bit.
Overall, I wouldn't hate this draft. I really like Kaepernick. I think the kid could be one of the most energizing players in this draft. He screams steal.
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in The Stadium Wall Archives
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If we take a QB in round 1 my list would be:
Mason Foster
Brooks Reed
Kyle Rudolph
Cam Hayward
Derrick Sherrod
Say we go Miller or Dareus or any other position other than QB in the first I'd keep my list the same except I'd put Colin Kaepernicks name at the top of it.