Mr. WEO

This is THE ONLY guy Beane has no 1 year contract for??

Scroll back... It's not about getting "a discount" as a taxpayer (but it would be nice to get that back in smaller taxes, such as on gasoline); it's about better ways to spend the money. Using it to pay off a billionaire so he doesn't move his sports team should be way down on the list. Or let Buffalo pay for it.

There's a difference between paying a relatively small amount out of pocket and "financing it themselves", right? So why bring that into your argument? We are talking about paying proportionally more for a building that they will essentially be the only tenant in---and which is ONLY being constructed so that the Pegulas (and, less so, the other owners) can make some more money. Every team that will be sold will be sold for the highest amount ever. So what? LV put up the second highest public funding for a stadium ($750 million), but the Raider still had to put up 1.1 billion. PSE will skate by with a couple hundred million. People here are moaning about the stadiums downstate, but if they were serious, they would be calling for Erie County, not the State, to be putting up the bulk of the public funding (say...600 million), as that was the model for the Yankees, Mets, etc. Let the locals, the ones who, besides the Pegulas, get the benefit from the asset pay for the asset.

This isn't a serious belief or statement. People can disagree with the amount of the funding without "actively working to torpedo the deal" resulting in the Bills leaving WNY. That's certainly what PSE wants you to say. Perhaps people who object to the amount just wanted more from Pegula, instead of the most generous public contribution to any NFL stadium in the history of the US. Pretty simple. The public knows he can afford more toward the construction. Those who object can rightly conclude that the state didn't really play hardball with this extremely generous deal. If this was an item on a public ballot, there's no chance it would pass.

He said it doesn't exist. But to answer your question: they both have in common that the public entities would not build these owners a stadium. LA? the town that couldn't support any NFL team for decades now has 2 because one billionaire built a privately funded 5+ billion stadium to house them both. Pretty much every large NFL market has PSL's and naming rights that will be higher than the Bills new stadium will fetch--why even mention it? It's beside the point. Even if Pegula could get more for PSLs and naming rights, he would still take the 850 million form the State and County. NJ? See above. Privately funded. If PSE took on say 70% of the cost of the stadium, the PSL, naming, team specific and league shared revenue would pay their part easily.

LA and NJ do, in fact, exist.

Hutchinson

More likely Ravens are in no hurry to resign him and he knows it. They need to see another full season.

If you hear about this almost weekly or monthly, then the NFL isn't doing a very good job of burying this.....are they?

I recall an Alexis Carrington in Dynasty....

propping up?

This clown again?? Cue the "Whaley was a great assessor of talent" posts....

keep reading....

ARM?? It's more like having a mortgage and your neighbors and business associates pay it for you....while your house doubles in value and you get it all when you sell. The state and county are on the hook for the 850 million, plus 100 million over 15 years for maintenance plus 180 million over 30 years for captial improvements. Conversely, the Pegulas have to put up 200 million of there own money to get the 200 million G4 money. Of that 200 G4, they will let 150 million be paid back from the visiting team's (other owner's) gate cut. So that means they are on the hook for 250 million out of 1.3 billion. They will then cut that amount down by charging PSLs to generate at least 100 million. Even if cost over runs hit 20% for another 250 million, that's 400 million they might have to pay out of pocket. In only 8 years, they have cleared almost 400 million in profit from owning the Bills. The shared (guaranteed minimum) revenue will soon be 300 million a year. There is no risk for the Bills here.

Yes, that was my point. People downstate will say let the locals and the team pay for it.

Every coach on the Bills disagreed with this as a true statement.

You "haven't seen"...anything, other than a single run ever through a giant hole versus a group of scrubs at the end of a preseason game! come on... you're trolling with this right? lol Wade put it best--NFL has too many plays and too many meetings for his liking. He was never for this game. Why they kept him around will be an eternal mystery.

I tried. More reading will help. Dig in

...they might get the private burden up to 40% or so. Anyway, the Bills have 2 owners.

Palmer isn't a paid entertainer. Everyone within the public view of ESPN/NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL...etc is. Pretty stark difference.

how so

People downstate obviously don't care about that. Northeastern NJ is part of the NYC metro area and they look at that as more NY than anywhere upstate. Their football teams play a few miles away from Manhattan--about as close as OP to downtown Buffalo. Downstate they see how Metlife was funded and say tell the owner to fund it. They look at Yankee stadium and say let the owner and the city of Buffalo/Erie Co split it.

I love how all these draft day trades always include "and Zack Moss", like it's the cherry on top.

Put a fork in his quad....he's done.

They work in entertainment media...sports in particular. They are being paid to entertain and produce entertainment. All media is hype and entertainment. What else are they supposed to do but give the people what they want? They are not a society; they are catering to society. That's far different from a business owner hyping his own paying clients/players/prospects to enhance his own business.