Mr. WEO

What would be considered an "outright lie" as opposed to a regular straight up type of lie in this case? Also, if her lawyer is manufacturing false evidence and submits it to the court as genuine, he is committing fraud against the court.

The consequence is that it would tank his lawsuit in court.

It would be discoverable. Obviously Araiza's (new) lawyer would find out what's on there. It would an incredibly weak bluff if plaintiff's is lying about its contents. It's a cornerstone of his case. A guy isn't going to base a lawsuit on an easily disproven piece of evidence's existence .

Do you think it's likely, or even possible, that plaintiff's lawyer would lie about the contents of the taped call in his submission of the suit? Why would he commit such an easily exposed lie?

Nope. His best outing was against Broncos, who had 20 starters in tee shirts.

Or just start a new "acquisition corporation" to sucker in more investor cash.

He knew a month ago. Maybe he's shook up because the public heard this story and reacted to them knowing a month ago? What pat are you claiming is inaccurate? She went to the cops, then the hospital then the cops had her make a pretext call and they taped it. You think the plaintiff will withdraw the suit now that he's been cut?? If that was true, why did he give the Bills a heads out the suit a month ago, knowing there was a strong possibility the outcome of that was Araiza getting cut? The suit was likely filed to prompt the SDPD, SDC DA to move the criminal case along after a lot of foot dragging.

Yeah, it’s real good for Matt. Lol. That’s such a bad lie.

The criminal case began the day after the alleged rape. 9 days later the cops were taking a pretext call to Araiza. The Bills firing was inevitable. The Bills knew a civil suit was coming weeks ago. Their “thorough investigation” would have made them aware of many of the details of the suit. Yet the still did nothing, other than cut last year’s punter. Then, after a massive and predictable PR disaster follows once the public is aware of what the Bills already knew about this whole thing, and with no new info….they cut him. Real class.

The plaintiffs lawyer says the Bill have not asked to speak to her. He contacted THEM weeks ago to give them a heads up that his client was filing a suit against Araiza. If he’s looking for big money, why would he take the chance that the Bills would cut him after hearing this?

You are handling it correctly. The alternative is that everyone will feel compelled to start a new thread about what HE/SHE just learned about this case, and wanted to let us all know. The whole first thread list page would be about a rookie Punter nope

Name any team where, after their stalwart Punter was cut, their collective psyche and chemistry were damaged..

It’s been reported everywhere (just read it in NYT) and her lawyer is saying so.

Again, the alleged victim didn’t refuse to speak with the Bills. The Bills never asked to speak with her,

Then the Bills should say they did an incomplete investigation

Where do I say that the Bills should ask the lawyer to do their investigation lol wtf? Simply interview the plaintiff.

So they should have instead said “our investigation was limited to only the counterclaims of Matt Araiza and what we could find out second hand from others”. Instead, they said it was “thorough”. That’s obviously a lie. And ridiculous.

She had already spoken publicly about her ordeal, plus the full details of her claim were known in the lawsuit. Why wouldn’t the lawyer let the Bills reach out to her, with the lawyer present?

Than it is anything but a thorough investigation

Lol you’re joking right? Her lawyer contacted the Bills a month ago.

The Bills “thorough investigation” didn’t include interviewing the victim. Clown show

Doc?

3/4 of this thread is like this

You said this more than once last night and others corrected you over an over, yet here you are again with this. You're wrong.

dude, wtf: hope he got willing oral??...this is getting creepy. he's not your "Mat", he's a rookie Punter on a football team.