Mr. WEO
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To clarify, I was saying that they didn't have enough evidence to charge him with a crime. The only evidence they had, which you summarized well, was only sufficient to charge him with a traffic violation, which technically isn't considered a "crime".
Let's take this from the top:
- The police saw the car had some sort of problem with the license plates. That gives them sufficient cause to investigate further. If the car had been moving, they would have been justified in turning on their lights/siren and pulling the car over.
- The marijuana had to be mentioned in the police report, because that's what gave them probable cause to search the car. Otherwise, the whole case would have been tossed out already.
- It isn't a crime to smoke marijuana. It's a crime (or in some cases a violation) to possess it, and of course it's a crime to sell it. There was no specific evidence as to which of the three people in the car were/weren't smoking; just speculation. Testing the blunts, or even dusting them for prints, would accomplish nothing. You still wouldn't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt as to who was smoking. Urine tests wouldn't legally prove anything because it's not illegal to smoke. You still wouldn't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that anyone possessed the pot. For example, they could all simply claim that they apparently ate some brownies and didn't know that they had pot in them.
Of course, anyone with even a modest amount of common sense recognizes that it's 99.9% likely that all three of them were smoking. But that's not the point. The point is there isn't enough admissible legal evidence to charge any of them with drug possession.
The problem with the license plates is that there were none. That is what initiated the suspicion of the cops. The scent of marijuana prompted the search.
Hey, VOR, if you want to continue to believe that those blunts did not contain MJ, then go right ahead, for whatever purpose it suits for you. But as someone else already pointed out, in court, there is no way to establish who "owned" or "possessed" the drugs, as each guy will claim it's not him but the other guy. The cops know how this goes. If they found a 16 oz. bag, the outcome would have been different.
Don--you've met the 0.1% who does not believe they were smoking weed.
Atlbillsfan is right. No one wants Lynch to miss games (he is, by far, the best player on this team), but he clearly believes that none of this other stuff matters and that, based on the response from the law, the league and his employer--there is no downside to this behavior. There is always another chance, no problem.
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The prosecution rests because it has NO REBUTTAL. There is NO NFL fan in America & Canada that does not think the MAJORITY of Pats* vets were/are on the ROIDS except for Pats* fan. The evidence may be circumstantial, but it is overwhelming.
THAT'S your rebuttal?
There is "overwhelming" "circumstantial" evidence that the "MAJORITY of Pats vets were/are" on "the ROIDS"? And EVERYONE in North America knows this, EXCEPT Pats fans?
So, essentially, you can make ANY claim about a team, no matter how fantastical, and if someone challenges you, they MUST be a "fan" of that team?
hahaha. Like I said.......funny funny funny stuff.
And VOR--nice try with the "black" comment. A knucklehead can come in any color. The irony of your weak jab is that you and yours are the ones using demeaning racial stereotypes--implying Lynch's race is an excuse for his poor behavior. Why don't you just come out and say what you really mean, which is "let's not be so harsh on Lynch---that's what these people from the ghetto are like, it's all they know."
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His new agent advised him poorly.
He was under contract (renegotiated) and he had absolutely NO leverage, yet he held out.
He subsequently arrived in poor shape, had a mediocre year. Way to negotiate!
Saying he is, by far, our best O-lineman is either a derogatory statement about our line or the value of LTs in general.
If he's one of the best, how we know what an average LT looks like?
And stop with the Pro Bowl nonsense.
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That would be sheer brilliance to trade a 1st, much less an additional 2nd and 3rd, for Brady, before he even comes back to play. But I'd do it...if Moss and Welker came with him, not to mention their videotape guy.
The stuff just writes itself.
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If you think the majority of Pats* Vets were not on the ROIDS...........................YOU MUST BE A PATS* FAN.
The prosecution rests.
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before you crucify and judge him like half of the rest of the board, don't you think we should get all the details first.
You wouln't want to be put in the same category as a Nancy Grace would you?
All those prosecutors on tv are too extreme. According to them you would think that no one is in this world is innocent
Nancy Grace? Why do you keep mentioning her? TV prosecutors? What does this have to do with Lynch?
Testing the blunts? Dumbest comment in these threads---AND you keep repeating it. Do you think those fellas tossed some FAKE blunts on the floor of the car? Do you think that the test just might come back "not Lynch's marijuana"?
How bout testing Lynch's urine? Case closed. Why is it important to have him suffer NO consequences of violating league conduct policy?
Are you two roommates or something?
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Antonio Brown
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Some of you guys are really funny.
Maybe ALL the Pats are taking steroids and have a secret way to beat all testing.....yeah, that's it. HAS to be, since they can no longer cheat by stealing signals (specifically, with an overtly postitioned sideline video camera, as opposed to the old fashioned employee-with-video-cam-in-thestands method).
A juiced up special teamer--"Larry Izzo"---was the secret key to their SB success all along--and the press will NOT pick up this story!
No WAY we would give up precious 1st, 2nd, 3rd picks---which we treat like GOLD here in Buffalo as our draft history proves--for TOM BRADY?? He's a bust without..........Charlie Weiss! I mean Josh McDaniels. Well, you know what I mean----without a "greatest OC in the world".
This is how you know your own team is real bad. This is the stuff you are left convincing yourself to believe.
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Agreed twice. There's not just one formula for success.
As far as Jauron being threatened, I don't think so. He doesn't have an ego and he seems secure (if understated) to me.
I think if we don't have big name coaches on the staff it's because Ralph has historically not paid coaches well. The only exception I remember is when Donahoe was calling the shots and we had Jerry Gray and Dick LeBeau running the defense.
Threatened by WHOM? Schonert? Fewell? Nobody else would have these guys as coordinators, let alone HCs. Except Ralph, because they would only get, like, $50,000 more to be HC for the Bills.
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I would take him on skill, even though I hate the dog fighting. Vick could be a steal for some team.
You would "take him on skill"? You mean as a QB??
Was he a "steal" for Atlanta? Even before he was killing dogs, he was stealing a monster paycheck from poor lovestruck Arthur Blank every month.
A guy who can improv and run? NICE! The NFL has always been a great place for the college option QB.
He had to "improv" because he didn't know the plays he was calling and he couldn't hit the side of a barn at ten paces, no matter how hard he threw. A fantastic bust.
He may resume play in 2011 as a WR. Not sure how Atlanta's compensation will be resolved.
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That's really steep for any player. One bad injury and his playing days are over and A LOT of money is left on the table.
I'd love to see him here but with his character concerns that's a steep price.
I'd offer $100 million over 6---as long as $60 mil was loaded into the last two years! After 4 years, just tear up the contract.
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Stats mean nothing. I live in Detroit, I worked for a TV station and covered this guy. He threw games away with bone head plays time after time. He can pi$$ away a win faster than JP. When another poster mentioned his rather bizzare shtick, he was right on. I'd be standing there at his locker during an interview listening on how god healed him so he could go in and win the game. I always wondered where god went after that game because Kitna and the Lions were the worst team in the NFL.
The Lions weren't the worst team in the NFL when he played for them.
Not sure how Martz's offense "inflated" QB sacks. I thougth it was the crappy O-line. Let's bring Martz AND Kitna.
And who cares what he says in his interviews--maybe you are pining for our current backup QB's post game gems: "ah....ah....um....like....you know.....I thought I played pretty good....ah.....um." As he goes on to blame everyone around him for another JP stinkbomb.
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At best I can see 1 game, like what Brandon Marshall ultimately got for his long history of domestic assault charges. But I'm still sticking with no suspension and a stiff fine.
Yeah. that'll teach him.......
.......that there's nothing he can do that can't be dropped down to a misdemeanor.
Hit n' runs, smokin' blunz, loaded guns------I'M MARSHAWN LYNCH!
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Although I bet he did not give up 13 sacks last year like our LT.
The problem people have here paying Peters so much is that he has had one good year and giving someone 9-10M a year for one good year is VERY risky especially for a small market team that when they take big bets has to win the vast majority of time.
The problem is that you could have gotten the saem production you got out of Peters last year as moving Walker over to the LT like they did when he was holding out.
Ray's right. Walker could not have done worse.
So it sounds like Gross is grossly overpaid, so we should do the same with Peters?
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Someone here said we are deep enough at CB. If we can't sign him or tag and trade him.....so be it.
I think he's a solid CB, but no CB is wothr that kind of money. These guys come up with a team, have a breakout year at the end of their contract, get tagged or get a new contract as a FA and make an insane amount of money.
The end result? Neither the team that gets him or lets him go is any better or worse off. Bly, Clements, Samuel, Hall (TWO teams wasted money on him in ONE SEASON!)---none of those moves really improved the teams that blew all that cash and the teams that gave them up were no worse off--in some cases they got better BETTER.
There may be only a few "top CBs" in the league, but....so what? The league is producing new ones every year. Even so, the position just cannot have an impact on the game commensurate with the insane cost for a "top CB". Teams have done very well without "top CBs". The Pats won a few SBs without one (they had a WR playing CB!). The Cards passing D gave up like 36 TDs this year---no one else was even close to this bad.
Look at the contract that the Raiders just handed out tokeep their "top CB". Look at the money they've tied up in CB and their 350 lb. QB.
It's nuts.
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This is why the current CBA is a joke.
This has nothing to do withthe CBA. It's just GMs making the same dumb mistake over and over. The CB position just isn't worth that kind of money. It has been proven each time a CB has been given such a huge chunk of change.
You're right--can't trade him now.
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You mean Angelo Crowell?
How far do we bend over to get that guy back?
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For a 3rd this year and a 1st next year. Menthion of Wilson really liking him
"Wilson really liking him"??
Remember the last time that happened?
Remember "he reminds me of a Monet...."?
Rob Johnson was that masterpiece.
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No tag for Greer. He's a good Cb, but it never ceases to amaze me how teams overpay for this position. How did Bly work out for the Broncos? Clements for the 49ers? Did we suffer without Clements?
It's just not a position that has the impact to justify this crazy money.
Trade him if you can't sign him. How will we be worse off?
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I think he's more upset that Fitz is getting more attention than him, which would not be the case here. However, if we had a QB that could hit a WR downfield once in a while....
I don't know what QB is going to give Boldin the kind of attention he apparently needs.
No way he comes here. We haven't had a QB who could hook up with a guy like that since Bledsoe. Forget TE and also JP (we've been desperate so long that his "long bomb" completion numbers are growing to mythic numbers in the minds of some).
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I am with you on this. The way some people talk and go the moral high ground you would think they are Mother Teresa or Jesus Christ.
Marshawn has some issues i dont' think anyone here doubts that. I just don't think they are as severe as some people make out. I hate to break it to people but growing up in Buffalo is a whole lot different then growing up poor in Oakland. Most people here have no idea what Inner City life is like. If you don't believe me come to LA and take a stroll through Compton or Watts. I bet you would be somewhat scared and not want to go back there ever again.
I find the NFL is very irresponsible when it comes to players like Marshawn. The NFL expects people to forget the first 20ish years of their life and change over night once they start representing the Shield. It's just not as easy as they think.
The NFL is "very irresponsible"???
These NFL is a BUSINESS. These are EMPLOYEES who make their living because there is a National Football League. This behavior affects the League's brand.
Tell me, if your employer in your 20's gave you a set of rules which you had to comply with to remain employed, and you chose to ignore those rules, you might be fired, no?
And spare us the "these people who grow up in the ghetto---that behavior is all they know, so let's not expect anything else from them" argument. It's poorly disguised racism.
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I don't know if Boldin will have any say in where he would go but if so I wonder if Tolbert could have any influence in Boldin's thinking, seeing that their careers crossed in Boldin's first year. We would make a good trade partner for Arizona because we're in a different conference and have great draft positioning. The compensation that we can offer should be better than most other teams out there.
If Boldin is unhappy with all those catches and that yardage on a SB team, you think he's gonna come here? For "Tyke Tolbert'?
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Allow me to explain myself:
I am sick of hearing people piss and moan about athletes who get into marginal legal trouble in their free-time. The Marshawn issue is just a small part of it. What's wrong with just wanting these guys to be effective football players, and, short of hurting other citizens, not giving a damn what degree of quality person they are.
And don't give me that "our kids look up to these guys," crap. Give your kids real role models. Would you not let your child watch "Home Improvement," because Tim Allen had been charged with a drunk driving? Would you keep your child from seeing "Iron Man," because Robert Downey Jr. had a problem with drugs?
These guys are football players and, in many cases, a club and loincloth short of being classifiable barbarians. So save the morale high-ground stuff for another aspect of your life -- there certainly are plenty of other avenues for that holier-than-thou line of thought. Let these guys represent us ON the field by doing what they've trained and dreamed of doing for most of their lives: breaking other people's faces.
I'm tired of this franchise (and a portion of its constituency) sacrificing football talent and athletic prowess for "high character" guys. Sure, there's something to be said for guys who are stable and good for locker room morale, but I suspect we have a team full of guys like that already. What we need is a nasty streak. Besides, there are plenty of guys who aren't "high character" but are still great for uniting a team and motivating for a collective goal.
So, please Bills FO, bring in the football talent this off season -- be it free agency or draft. Leave the moral grand-standing for the politicians and televangelists.
Good day, gentlemen; and until that day comes, keep your ear to the grindstone.
This isn't a "nasty streak"---it's a stupidity streak.
Look, I think Lynch is the only guy on this team, bar none, who gives full effort every game day. But he's no rookie. Why can't he be a leader AND be nasty. Who is the leader of this team? Whitner?? Come on!!
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