Mr. WEO
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On 11/5/2025 at 11:08 AM, Einstein said:
Bills have been in 3 of the 5 most watches CBS regular season Sunday games since 1998.
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So have the Chiefs.
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9 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said:
Who’s to say the Bills would have drafted Jefferson???
good point. Beane would have blown right past Jefferson as he ran to the podium to draft Noah Igbinoghene or Jeff Gladney.
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9 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:
Ah, those were the days, when I could still do that. This has nothing to do with football. 🙁
The Bills would have to hire Ken 'Go Long' Dorsey back to maximize their worth.
figure skating?
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16 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
It's not publicly traded. So that valuation is an estimation, at best.
Same for any privately held company. The only ones who the valuation really has significance to are investors and the company has had no trouble raising a quick 1/2 billion in 2 rounds of funding.
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22 hours ago, dayman said:
Stick him out there instead of Coleman a few plays a game see what happens. Half joking…but half not!
How bout he plays 3 games in the NFL as DB first?
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Wow, Woody Johnson actually made another owner look like a sucker!
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6 hours ago, zow2 said:
I'm not buying all of that. If that was the case Jake Browning would have moved the offense but he was completely ineffective. I think Flacco's accuracy and ball placement is really high level and gives those guys a chance to make plays. Joe obviously has the experience to understand what defenses are trying to do and disguise. So the combo of Flacco and those elite receivers is better than what anyone could have imagined. He wasn't this effective on the Browns obviously.
Browning's a nobody, a bum.
Flacco is very smart, seen it all, very accurate and still spins a tight spiral.
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14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
How am I mischaracterizing it? It's Spinal Fusion surgery on a player that delivers hits on a regular basis. These are facts.
If there's any mischaracterization here, it's you acting like that's meaningless. Neck injuries with a DB is a serious, serious thing. Just in recent memory with our team alone, Hyde tried to come back from it but couldn't. We've got a Rookie who looked promising that is now possibly retiring over it. Are you old enough to remember Aaron Williams? Spinal injuries are the kiss of death for a DB.
The idea that a DB coming off spinal fusion means nothing is ridiculous. Especially where he is in that process and where we are in the season. Don't like the "held together by tape" line? Fine. I'll say it with less hyperbole: "a spine held together by screws on a player that has to hit people on a play to play basis".
You can dismiss it and discount it all you want. It's a hugely important thing. One that is likely going to field someone who isn't the same player. And even if the Bills felt he was worth the risk in the condition he's in, the timing compounds it. This isn't a player that's going to go straight to the field. And the Bills (9.9 times out of 10) aren't the type of team to take guys on this late in the season with no familiarity with the Defense.
I have never said the “injury means nothing”. Again you rely on mischaracterization to prop up your poorly argued point.its also obviously wrong that every DB hits another player “play to play”. The best of them are credited with 80 or less combined tackles per year. Sure they may score some hits that aren’t recorded as such, but on the majority of snaps, CBs are in zone or man covering a receiver who isn’t targeted by the QB.
White is familiar with this Defense. How’s that working out for the Bills?
Hyde had the same surgery after his injury in 2022, yet he “came back from it” in 2023…to the Bills no less. And the he was re-signed AGAIN as a feee agent to the Bills in 2024. He was just too old to be effective anymore, like Tre White.
Williams did NOT have a spine stabilizing surgery. But the Bills did take him back after this in 2016 but after another injury, he was not cleared and retired. Another inappropriate example. All 3 players you have described received not “the kiss of death” after their surgeries, but lived to play again.
Timing? He’s a veteran who would cost little to nothing and can be expected to learn the playbook (it’s the middle of the season). Isn’t that what is assumed every time a team signs a player mid season?
Anyway, ultimately your point is moot, as experts have demonstrably disagreed with your assessment and descriptions of that surgery and have cleared him to play.
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35 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
I give him the benefit of the doubt more than most as far as weirdness, but this is f'n weird
It's a $10 billion+ business, so the demand is robust.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
There's a HUGE difference between a guy who tore his ACL and Achilles years ago, played all last season, was here practicing the entire off-season - OTA's, Training Camp, and Pre-Season, and knew the Defensive playbook vs. a guy who hasn't done ANYTHING Football related in over a year, is coming off Spinal Fusion in April, likely hasn't done anything remotely physical in 6+ months, and has to learn the Defense 10 weeks into the season.
What am I on about? These are facts. Important ones that you're discounting or dismissing. Again, you're comparing incomparable situations bc you want a new toy. Ignoring the fact that the toy is held together by tape and would require at least a month, likely more, of getting it ready before you could play with it.
Look, if the Bills thought it was worth it - I wouldn't be against it. But I would be very surprised if anyone gave him a shot in the condition he's in right now and where we are in the season.
you're still hung up on the spinal surgery ("held together by tape"). you're intentionally mischaracterizing the procedure in order to make a silly point.
I don't care if they sign him or not--I'm just pointing out that your ignorance regarding his procedure renders your opinion doomed by logic.
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I would think most Defenders have a pretty good idea when a team will run more likely than pass and vice versa.
Also, does Hairston understand that, even if Worthy "tells" he's "not getting it", it still may be a passing play (to, like, another receiver)?
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44 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
That is the point.
What team's are willing to deal with in terms of neck injuries to a QB v. a CB, let alone a QB the level of a Peyton Manning - is a VASTLY different, completely incomparable situation.
Peyton Manning as a QB (especially behind Denver's line at the time) wasn't going to take many hits from the pocket. He took a total of 37 sacks over 4 years. Asante Samuel has to potentially be delivering hits on a play to play basis.
And Asante Samuel Jr. wasn't considered a top 10 CB in the league BEFORE he had Spinal Fusion. He was a guy who was considered a pretty decent cover Corner who was a poor tackler with it even said he outright avoids contact.
These things are likely not to get better with a fused spine.
He hasn't done anything football related in over a year. He had Spinal Fusion surgery in April. So it's likely he hasn't done any sort of physical training in over 6 months.
On top of that, he'd have to learn the Defense and we're in Week 10. There is no scenario where they're signing him to the active roster and pulling Tre in favor of him anytime soon.
Best case scenario, he'd be the one on the Practice Squad and maybe in a month to two months he'd be cycled in.
this is a FO that sighed Tre White after he blew out his ACL and achilles--and has lost 3 steps!! what are you going on about now??
Samuel would be low risk possible reward. If he got reinjured, oh well---it's not like you're losing your starting QB.
It's also not like the Bills secondary is filled with All Pros, and I'm being kind....
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21 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Yes, because he was a.) a Quarterback who doesn't get hit often, compared to a player who is hitting people play to play and b.) was maybe the greatest player of all time at that position.
There were concerns with Samuel's game before he had the surgery. His name carries more weight than his prestige on the field. And there's a sliding scale in both talent and the position you play that dictates taking a risk on someone coming off a Spinal Fusion surgery.
Peyton Manning and Asante Samuel Jr. aren't remotely comparable besides having the same injury.
you're still missing the point. all QBs take a beating. it's up to the player to accept the risk.
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22 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
If Asante Samuel Jr. were a QB at the level of a Peyton friggin' Manning - it would obviously be a different story. But that's not remotely the case here.
there has never been a CB at the level of a top 5 all time at the most important (by far) position in football, so your point makes no sense.
The guy should be good to go.
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15 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Dudes coming off Spinal Fusion surgery. He hasn't done anything football related in over a year - probably hasn't done much of anything since having Spine surgery. And that's not even taking into account having to learn a new Defense in Week 10.
He may have been "cleared" - but I'd be very surprised to see anyone jump at bringing him on now in the condition he's in.
P Manning had cervical spine fusion.Took a ton more hits, won a SB
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31 minutes ago, Dr. K said:
I think it's classic how twenty-four hours ago the obvious truth about the Bills (nationally, and among some of us Bills loyalists) was that they were a second-rate team with no shot at the Super Bowl.
And now they are back as one of the favorites.
I don't think the way the media (and some fans) react to games is rational. After a game like this you get three days of people shouting unequivocal opinions that they will reverse by next Monday in order to shout about something else.
It's funny, when it's not exhausting.
relatively, nearly no one claimed the Bills had “no chance” of making the Super Bowl” 24 hours agobut suspending all reasonable disbelief, why would opinions, changing or not, become “exhausting”?
straw men should be exhaustible, by the way…
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2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
If you watched it, why would you say that when he talked about it explicitly in the calculation and graphed it.
Right, but they aren't leading the league this year. Every year is its own beast. You don't into it with the same plan.
This year James Cook is the top dog, and barring injury, he'll likely stay that way.Hope isn't a plan, but I appreciate your optimism.
Also, Henry and Barkley couldn't be more physically different than Cook. The record book for 100+ YPG isn't littered with small RBs.
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8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
I dunno, wasn't a problem for Saquon or Derrick Henry.
Of course, the simple answer is, if they're trying to stop the run, it should be easier to beat them with the pass, so do that. Again, worked just fine for the Eagles when KC over committed to stopping the run.Sure it was: Barkley has done to once in his career--he isn't even close this year. Henry has done in once in the last 3--he won't get there this year.
Also, in 2 of the 3 games where Cook was under 100 yards, the Bills lost, with only 200 yards passing on average. So, no.
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Just now, BullBuchanan said:
Does he have to?
misdirection question. why not ask "will he?" or "why won't he?"?
The odds are he will not, based on historical data--this average is 50% higher than his past 2 seasons. Also, multiplying every RB who has played over every season over the history of the NFL, there have been under 90 100 YPG seasons total.
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what happens to this new elite Offense when Cook stops averaging over 100 YPG?
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Might as well just play 10 on D anyway
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Git er done!!
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19 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
State of the art facilities in OP and they drive 70 miles to work out at a Division III college campus.
It's been a bad idea for years. Just stay in OP.
why does it matter?
30.8 Million watched the Bills Chief's game
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Yeah @Gregg's take is bizarre. Williams is an absolute stud by any measure--and trading Hyde and signing Williams saved the Cowboys 70 million over 3 years.
"Older"? He's 27, Parsons is 26---couple of real oldsters out there lol! This was a great move by Jerry Jones.