Mr. WEO
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9 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Who are they going to take at QB with 6? Caleb Williams is going 1. Some combination of Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, or J.J. McCarthy is going 2 and 3.
They'd either have to move up to 4 or 5 for the last of the 4. They'd have to beat out Minnesota, who has 2 1st's this year to do it. And if they can do that, then a.) they won't be at 6 to trade with and b.) Arizona or LA, who would also be expected to Draft one of the first two guys will.
And if they are of the mind that Penix and Nix are big time reaches at 6 (and they are) and are looking to move down to 28 with one of them in mind, there's not a guarantee the guy they'd want their would be available that low.
Harrison is going to AZ.
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9 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
Somebody ..
He was controlled at $17-18 m the next three years … you don’t see him getting more money than that ?no chance. he may not be worth even that after his one season in Houston.
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1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:
Great deal for Diggs … he looks like he won the trade
who’s going to pay him huge money after he’s off the Texans?-
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12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Nah, I still wouldve taken a lot more Diggses...es on the 2020-2022 Bills. He was great while he was here, until he wasnt. All that stuff doesnt change that. He just didnt get along with the boss in the long run.
Ha! I think Dallas makes a lot more sense, but anything is possible.
he’s not gone because he didn’t get along with the boss…. -
remember when then helmet throwing, the sideline berating of his QB, the pulling himself out of games ands the camp drama were all packaged under "hey he's just super competitive and everything!!--I'll take a team of Diggs's!!"
yeah, good times....a thousand posts just evaporated with his unceremonious exit.
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7 hours ago, Doc said:
That game in Houston should be interesting...
at what point do you figure Diggs pulls himself out of that game?
2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:This - and it’s likely where he wanted to go. More and more agents are making an effort to direct their players to preferred destinations. Everyone knows how Diggs would act if he had been traded to any team that wasn’t a contender so his trade value was nil to those teams. I’m sure he had a very short list of acceptable teams and the Texans were the one that got the deal done.
Diggs just straight up played himself off a contender. So I doubt that was a top item on his "where will they send me next" list...
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3 hours ago, BigDingus said:
You have to make it to the Chiefs in the playoffs to even get to that point.
There are more teams than just the Chiefs to worry about, something we should all understand from the 2022 Divisional Round game.
Would you be cool with Diggs going to the Bengals? No. And the Texans made it to the Division Round in just 1 year with Stroud, have a younger team, more talent, better cap situation, already had a number 1 WR, and now added Diggs.
So instead of acting like we already made it & our spot is assured next to the Chiefs, we have to contend with reality & recognize there are other teams improving faster & more dramatically than the Bills.
my opinion on Figgs is we’ll know . Honestly, who cares where he goes. He was in the tank for most of the season—-despite a top 2 QB slinging the ball and a weak WR room. E we hats he going to go for the Bengals, of all teams??If Dell is healthy, Diggs is #3 in Houston. How do you think he will handle that? How long before he starts yelling at young Stroud? Week 6, 7?
if the Bills can’t assemble a top 5 passing game with a top rookie WR this season then Beane, McD and Brady all have to go.
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who cares?
Texans put up numbers on The Cleveland Flaccos, then got roasted by the about to be fully exposed Baltimore MVP's.
every time any player moved from one team to an winning AFC rival, posters loose their stool.
worry about not falling apart to the Chiefs in the playoffs...
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15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I really hope I'm wrong (and good news there, i've been doing a lot of that lately!) - I just don't see Arizona or the Giants passing on generational talents at a position of need for them.
Now more than ever, Thomas is in play. Especially with the added ammo from the Diggs trade. Maybe an outside chance that Odunze falls a couple picks and we're able to get to like 9 or 10 or something.
But when it comes to Harrison and Nabers, I just don't see them giving up not only them - but even guys like BTJ and possibly Mitchell as well, moving all the way to 28.
I think for this to happen, it would need to be like a Josh trade was. We'd need to move up to like the 10-15 range before the Draft and then move up again from there.
who is their QB?
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50 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Greg trying to start trouble in Houston!
how is a simple observation starting trouble? Diggs is the only live human who might think that Collins is not Houston's WR1 this season...
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12 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:
13 years of no playoffs (as soon as they get eliminated this season). A record. And if you watch NHL and pay attention, it is sickening how many ex sabres are doing well elsewhere. How could they not stink.
Las Vegas went from nonexistent to 5 playoff appearances in 7 seasons, including 2 Stanley finals and a Cup win.
Sabres have been completely irrelevant since Golisano unloaded them.
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2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
I don't think that's how it'll play out at all. Just like when he left the Vikings, he kept his head down & stayed quiet the whole time.
He doesn't take shots in the media, and all his teammates always speak highly of him. I think he sees the Texans as a better up & coming team and wants to win.
say what?
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8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
HOMER!!!!! (I've been told that having a positive opinion of Josh Allen as a person makes me a jock-sniffing homer).
no that would have been Edmunds or Poyer in the past. McD currently
Josh is appropriate for all adulation...
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7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:
It would be nice if Beane was competing on the field of play. I'm sick about this trade, but I understand. I just hope Beane has a plan to replace Diggs production
49 YPG over the final 13 games (including playoffs) shouldn't be hard to replace...
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5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
Its a quick watch. < 2 mins.
Basically said it is a loss for the Bills but not a huge one given he faded away for 2 seasons in a row. Allen always having to answer "are you good with Stefon?" etc
This is a great point. It became excruciating for the ultimate good guy, Allen, having to explain Digg's behavior.
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21 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:
You sound like the sort of Sabres fan who actually thought trading Eichel and Reinhart was a good idea, or that they were somehow part of any problem with the team.
A pox on your family for a thousand generations!
With or without Eichel, the Sabres stunk/stink on ice.
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17 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I don't think the Texans took on $19M of which $18.5 is fully guaranteed because "every other GM" thought he was a cancer
On the other hand, a guy who is turning 31 and is due $19M ($18.5M guaranteed) this season and $18M and $19M the next two seasons, has limited trade value.
I was referring to his trade value, which was minuscule, it turns out.
Most who might be looking for a top WR FA figured he was expensive/cancer/washed up/not worth a high pick this year
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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:
You don't think I understand that figure of speech, sour grapes? Well, you're wrong about that. That's a stone fact.
It's a stone fact that defenders don't always tell the truth about how they covered a guy.
Diggs had safeties coming over the top of him all year long, even if it wasn't man to man. And why not? He was by far our best WR.
In this year's playoff game against the Chiefs, it's a fact that on the play with 5:47 in the 4th quarter he had two guys within a step or to of him and Josh threw it to him anyway, that on the 4th down completion to Shakir on the left at 4:45, Diggs is the only guy on the right side or going there and when Shakir cuts back the guy who ran with him is staring right at Diggs, the only guy on that side and he doesn't notice Shakir cut back until way too late. Man-to-man coverage and Diggs ends up with two guys around him, Shakir none.
It's a fact that on the next pass play, at 3:19 and 3rd and 4 Diggs is alone on the right side, tight to the line and they've got trips on the left. The safety on the left comes down to cover one of the trips, leaving one safety deep. Diggs collects his CB, an LB who heads towards him despite him being the only guy on that side, and the deep safety stays in the middle, leaving a ton of room for Sherfield to convert. Here:
And those four around him don't include the safety still on Diggs' side behind all these guys.
I mean, I guess the Chiefs don't consider this double teaming, since they didn't do that? Again, Diggs was the only receiver on that side.
I went to watch the crucial drive at the end, the one that ended with the missed field goal. I watched specifically the first few plays and described above. The coverage was absolutely focused on Diggs.
That's a fact.
Diggs running into coverage isn't always double teaming....
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24 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
Totally unfair.
We still don't know what caused that freefall. Was it that with the playbook from an old OC and the playcalling of a new OC they couldn't find a good way to use him? Nobody can say for sure, but that is very likely a large part of the problem, if not most of it.
You can pretend that it was all on Diggs. But there's no reason to think that's right. Could easily have been on others to a large extent. Now we'll never know. Pretending we do know, and putting it all on Diggs, is just sour grapes.And it's a stone fact that he was drawing the vast bulk of the coverage and making things much easier for the other WRs.
Certain kinds of WRs tend to start going downhill early. Diggs' type, the exceptional route-runners not dependent of top end speed, tend to last longer. Every reason to think he'll still be very very productive for several more years. Unfortunately.
We are going to pay him in the high $20M range to watch him on TV catching passes in Texas. This was a horrendous time to let him go.
But it doesn't seem like we had any better choices, with how relations with him were proceeding.
I don't think you understand that figure of speech..
anyway--it certainly was not the new OC that put a fork in Diggs--the player was taking himself out when he was displeased (with Josh Allen of all people!!). What other, "to a large extent" are responsible for his decline? They should be easy for you to name since you seem convinced.
the bulk of coverage? both in week 14 and the playoffs v. KC, he whined about them doubling as an excuse for his crappy performance. yet after each game, the Chiefs D were quick to comment that they weren't even doubling him up.
give us your "stone facts"
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4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
It's really not.
It'll likely look better as we move towards the season.
But this was a huge hit, particularly for this year's team and future cap status.
And to remind you, Diggs was 6th in the league in receptions, 13th in yards, 10th in first downs and tied for 7th in TDs last year. It's not fair to only look at his worst section of the season and pretend they sum up his year. Not even close. That production absolutely can NOT "be replaced quite easily."
It was the majority of his season. totally fair. he was in free fall---time to cut him loose
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7 minutes ago, Dr. K said:
Diggs was in no way shape or form "the heart and soul of the team." Your saying he was, IMHO, calls your judgment into question.
Or if he was, that helps explain why they have fallen short.
he was a cancer, it turns out--not heart and soul.
his (essentially) zero trade value confirms what every other GM felt about this guy. McBeane just wanted to get rid of him
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
Thanks for the correction. Felony, not a misdemeanor.
I stand by the rest of my post.little will come of this legally?
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but, but, but...."he's not going anywhere"!!
Clearly McBeane had enough of this guy dogging it down the stretch.
He will make a decent WR2/3 in Houston
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#crashandburnthread
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Diggs traded to Texans for picks
in The Stadium Wall
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you think this was purely a personality conflict?
The guy tanked the majority of the season. Plus he's a head case.
The team felt his output wasn't worth the trouble
see above. his performance meant they no longer had to tolerate his attitude.
If he was still putting up huge numbers, they would swallow their pride and put up with him, knowing he has negligible trade value.