Mr. WEO
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https://apple.news/ACP4znyw6RkW1RX9Qt-8_fg
this well documents the problem with a team run by Adams and Pegula…
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8 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
I don't think anyone is making the argument they don't know that they're playing to the limit and a little past it with PEDs. That's not really the issue here.
It's not about not taking banned substances, it's about not taking too much so you don't get popped. These guys aren't dosing out their own supplements. They have professionals for that, and I fully believe they're capable of screwing up, probably by misjudging what a player's test result will grade on a given day as a result of getting a little too risky with the program.8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:There's also the "I take so much juice at once and so many masking agents I get confused so I just let my trainer take care of it and pray he doesn't screw up" approach. Either way, you look a hell of a lot better if you take full responsibility for it imo. Especially when there's no qualifiers in front of that statement.
well both of these scenarios involve a player who knows he's taking banned substances. this bro is claiming he didn't know...which has to be a lie.
this is the discussion.
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11 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:
Still plenty of room for Mario Williams then
Ever since "Shady" got Williams's engagement ring back, Mario's a new man...
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On 3/19/2025 at 8:26 AM, BuffaloBillyG said:
I am way more excited to see how Tabor improves the ST then I've been about a ST coach probably ever.
Guy has been easily a top end ST coach in this league. Moving on from the tomato can of a coach we had should be a noticable difference.
McD has fired 3 ST coordinators since 2018. Tabor has been out of the league since end of 2023. Carolina ST stunk that year. Not much better the year before. He's been fired by the Browns, the Bears and Panthers. All 3 teams seem like they sure could use a really good coordinator...
On 3/20/2025 at 4:28 PM, billsfan89 said:
One thing that makes me a consistent McD “defender” for lack of a better word is that he’s seemingly attempted to adapt to fix his weaknesses.For example when he got here and for the first 5-6 years he was here McD was known as a very conservative coach. The past couple of seasons he’s in the top 5 of aggressive playcalling.
McD held onto being very hard on players but after that article in 2023 came out he let loose a little bit and players responded.
For several years McD was very loyal to his coaches and only kept guys he knew. He’s shown the past few years that he’s willing to dump coordinators and hire from outside his tree. I liked the bold move to fire Dorsey mid season and I liked the move to call the defense himself for a season.
I am not sure if McD is going to get this team over the top but he’s not doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. He’s attempting to grow as a coach and that’s giving me confidence that he deserves a couple of more cracks at getting this team a title
As the OP shows, his OC is a guy he knew--on staff already. DC Babich is a guy he knew, on staff for years.
He's not looking far....
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he just needs to bulk up, no?
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15 minutes ago, Sargent Hulka said:
I'm thinking TP, Beane, McD, Dion, wives, and other teammates all flew out on Terry's jet.
it's a 10 seat plane
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53 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:
Is this your MO or something? Very bizarre to argue something for 3 pages to end with “who knows if he’d get the same salary as the other guy.”
I've consistently stood by my opinion the next guy would want the same salary, and would be foolish not to demand it (you kindly quoted me as proof--thank you!). You, on the other hand, keep coming up with arguments that oppose your own position (like saying Goodell took less than Tags, for instance). You aren't making sense.
Obviously I acknowledge that none of us now know what the next guy would be paid--that's a point not worth making...and this is your "MO".
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8 minutes ago, US Egg said:
Point I contested was that it was asserted the Commissioners in the NBA, NHL and MLB, unlike Goodell, were screwing over their fans.
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32 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:
You keep saying the successor is going to “demand” the exact same compensation, now you want to move off it.
You can’t defend this position. It’s obvious. You don’t actually think that Goodell in his first year as commissioner made the exact same as Tagliabue did in year 17. Because it’s really silly to think.
Why wouldn't a successor (picked by Goodell himself) not demand the same? Whether he gets it or not who knows, but why would he not ask for it? Makes no sense not to.
Tags got paid 8 million his final year. Goodell had already made 6.9 million by his 7th month as Tags replacement 19 years ago. So you're wrong there too.
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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
My understanding from someone who works in the NFL's UK office is the initial push was him to the owners and there was some scepticism at first. I don't think that happens (at least not as early as it did) with AN Other commissioner. I think that is distinct from rule changes and streaming which kinda would happened a pace whoever was Commissioner.
I'm not sure all of this expansion (on TV and internationally) gets done without the ultimate macher---Goodell. He knows all the "players" in all forms of broadcasting. Some new guy would not be viewed in the same way by those paying to broadcast the NFL....
Rule changes I agree--nothing to do with Goodell.
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5 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:
Because he otherwise doesn’t get the job and can stay being the assistant to the regional manager for comparative pennies?
This isn’t the football side of things. It’s not like the QB market where there’s only 12 guys on the planet worth paying.
There are lots of executives and lawyers that would kill to be commissioner.
When Goodell got hired, I don’t think he was saying “pay me what Tags was making or I refuse to accept the job and will instead make 100k as the assistant to the President of the AFC.”
You take what they give you.
This has nothing to do with associates and partners--in the NFL there are none. Probably best to move off that odd comp.
Whether there are 2 or 2000 lawyers clamoring to take the job has no meaning---only Goodell has it and he's not going anywhere until he says so. The owners have to be completely satisfied with his tenure thus far. His "successor" is a non-issue.
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19 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
You can say that about any Buffalo Bill whoever played. I think you’re hatred for Diggs maybe clouding your judgement.
Not sure how this is relevant to the conversation. I don't "hate" sports figures--I don't know them. But I was skeptical when the trade was announced, based on the same behavior with the Vikings. A few years later and surprise surprise, he doesn't survive his last contract. This was all his doing, nothing to do with me. But some of us saw this as inevitable. The guy is outwardly immature--a cancer on any roster. He's about to be 0 for 3 on that note....
9 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:Again though, even had the Bills kept their pick and taken Higgins, that's a guarantee of nothing.
Being a rookie and presumed number one receiver in Buffalo is quite different than being the number two behind Jamar Chase in Cinci.
Higgins would have been a fantastic alternative to Diggs.
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On 5/31/2025 at 1:00 PM, US Egg said:
How have Commissioners of the NBA, NHL and MLB screwed the fans in a way Goodell hasn’t? You can’t be talking higher prices for fans to enjoy the product, or moving their sport to pay services. I’d say it’s pretty much an even front along the lines.
Goodell has nothing to do with what individual owners charge fans to enter the stadium. Likewise, he didn't decide to sell the product to streamers. The demand was there. The demand isn't there for these other sports--which really become relevant only during the playoffs....
Get ready for Oklahoma City vs Indiana AND Edmonton vs Florida in the Finals! Networks must be dying....
16 hours ago, Big Turk said:Because he the next person will have a track record of doing exactly jack sh!t for the NFL.
Goodell essentially turned the NFL into an unstoppable juggernaut that has taken over America 365 days a year and is responsible for at least 75 of the 100 most watched TV shows of the year in any given year.
The only thing the new commissioner could do is take a step backwards, the NFL already is far and away the richest sports league in the world and generates almost double the amount of revenue of the next highest one(MLB or NBA depending on the year as they seem to go back and forth).
When Goodell took over the NFL generated 7.8 billion in revenue. Now it does almost triple that.
Why would he take less? Because no NFL owner in their right mind is paying some random dude that hasn't proven anything the same as the most successful commissioner in the history of sports.
This is why I'm betting the majority of the owners do not care whether Goodell, right now, has a "succession plan".
9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:This.
He is the brain child and the driving factor behind the international games. Obviously you are right the decision to do it is the owners' decsion. But basically it was Goodell's idea and he sees it as a big part of his legacy. And it makes the owners money so they give him the green light.
I have no doubt the owners pushed for international expansion. Goodell has run with it for sure. But it never gets birthed without the owners coming to Goodell with the idea...which he made a reality.
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20 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:
I don’t know. Why does a junior partner make less than a senior partner, even when they “do the same job?”
Well none of this is applicable for obvious reasons.
There is only 1 NFL Commissioner. Why would the next guy take less than the current guy gets paid?
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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:
So he traded a 1st round pick for a sure thing for a WR diva in AJ Brown who has given them three straight 1,000 yard seasons and has been instrumental in helping Hurts develop as a quarterback. Bright guy.
Amazingly, both are still on their roster.
2 Super Bowls. A Lombardi.
Diggs is gone with less than nothing to show for it. No SBs….
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15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
Which is why you go for the sure thing instead of rolling the dice. Howie "best Gm of the league" Roseman took Jalen Reagor one pick before Jefferson.
Oh Diggs was a "sure thing" all right lol!
If Roseman had not also put together a roster that played in 2 of the last 3 SBs, destroying a 15 win Chiefs team, you might have a point. They could shrug of a bad decision at WR. He quickly rebounded by drafting Smith and then traded for AJ Brown. Beane brought in his usual minibus load of week old bread bin guys who end their careers in Buffalo soon after their 1 year paper expires....
Diggs never moved the needle for the Bills--zero impact: with or without Diggs, Bills win the division, lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs. It cost a potential top rookie WR on a 5 year contract and 31 million in dead cap, plus all the predictable immaturity/headaches.
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On 5/29/2025 at 1:10 PM, RobbRiddick said:
Steve Tasker looked like a choir boy and he was a psychopath on the field
Cole Bishop "the psychopath on the field" isn't on the roster
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6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
He could've just as easily picked Henry Ruggs or Jalen Rheagor if he moved up that far. Josh needed a veteran #1 WR to develop as a passer. Diggs was a better WR than everybody in that draft class besides Justin Jefferson in 2020.
He tends to do that. That's why I'm not salivating over Elijah Moore or Josh Palmer right now. The majority of us were happy at the time.
Beane's draft day ineptitude drafting WRs, he probably would not have picked Jefferson.
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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:
Beane didn't get that message calling into WGR. LOL. I'll qualify. Dumbest take that's been repeated over and over again over a five year period. Lol. There always seems to be a "who won the trade" argument no matter the transaction but I can't remember such a win win trade
The dumbest take either on this board or the old board (don't remember) is someone said that Trent Edwards would've been just as successful as Brady in the Pats offensive system.
Look at the thread when he signed. People were ecstatic. Diggs fooled us all.
@BADOLBILZ nailed it:
Posted April 9, 2022
Literally, you can look at Diggs then existing contract and say there was no need to act..............not just "technically".
You can't keep everyone at their happiest as a GM.........sometimes players are going to want for things.
I think Beane did a pretty good job keeping Diggs at bay on an extension for a couple years.........but ultimately the objective should have been to get him to the offseason before his walk year and see where he stood going into his age 30 season.
Beane blew all of his gains by having him at 3/4 of the market by re-inking him at the top of the market, IMO.
People can disagree but I think this deal ends with 2-3 years left and a lot of dead money.
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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:
Beane didn't get that message calling into WGR. LOL. I'll qualify. Dumbest take that's been repeated over and over again over a five year period. Lol. There always seems to be a "who won the trade" argument no matter the transaction but I can't remember such a win win trade
The dumbest take either on this board or the old board (don't remember) is someone said that Trent Edwards would've been just as successful as Brady in the Pats offensive system.
Look at the thread when he signed. People were ecstatic. Diggs fooled us all.
No not all of us...
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37 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
All this makes me wonder what Beane knew when he cut Diggs. Essentially paying him $31M to play on another team is a big decision and must have been based on considerations beyond the sideline antics.
the better question is what didn't Beane understand about Diggs before he traded for him?
Diggs's early end in Buffalo was completely predictable to many.......
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“Shady” picking me up after he tosses a few “minus 1s” off the party bus…
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19 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:
I think that’s where you’re mistaken. Jason Botterill wasn’t fired due to his job performance. He was fired because he wasn’t willing to fire almost the entire hockey ops (assistant GMs, scouts, coaches in Buffalo and Rochester, etc.).Kevyn Adams was hired because:
- he was willing to fire all those people, run with a bare bones front office staff and field an NHL team well below the salary cap ceiling, and in his first couple/few years even at or below the salary cap floor. “Efficient and economic” like Pegula wanted.
- he was willing to give Terry + Kim a much bigger voice in hockey ops.
- he was someone Terry trusted.
I honestly think that’s about it.
Go back and listen to what Terry said during the press conference where they announced Adams would be the GM (without even interviewing a single other person).
it’s horrifying.
here’s a good summary from the Buffalo news (if you can read it w/o hitting a paywall…)
https://buffalonews.com/opinion/columnists/article_83182297-4504-5091-9a15-e4d889a82704.html
Maybe things have changed since that press conference. They are spending a bit more than they were back then. But I have little reason to believe that winning is their #1 priority until more evidence starts showing that it is. Hiring Jarmo is a nice first step if he’s actually going to be in Buffalo full time (not just someone Adams can call when he needs him) and actually have a voice.
I had read that--that Terry hired him so he could "be heard". Obviously that was a problematic reason to hire someone immediately, as it was already clear that Pegula's management of this team has been a total disaster since he bought it. Now he hires this guy to prop up the guy who was hired to listed to Pegula.
It is to laugh.....Terry should be barred from the building.
13 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:I guess I'm underwhelmed by this whole thing. At first I thought Terry was hiring the position and it would be advising Adams, NOT that Adams was hiring a gopher. Plus ya heard names like Ken Holland, Lou Lamarielio, Brendan Shanahan thrown around and they hire Jarmo Kekalainen. meh
I wonder if Lou even waited to hang up before he started laughing
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4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
Hoecht can certainly read: https://brownbears.com/sports/football/roster/michael-hoecht/9698
no doubt--that only leaves that he's a liar in blaming someone else. But he's not a very good one. Brown couldn't teach him to be more clever it seems.
Ross Tucker interview of Michael Hoecht
in The Stadium Wall
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My guess isn't that he did not take some sort of weird or mysterious multivitamin or exotic supplement just on a whim. He took anabolics, HGH or adderol.