Mr. WEO
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I must be lacking some insight, because I fail to see the relevance that this has to do with Peters.
And why is this "interesting news" at all?
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I think he is only looking for a long term deal. I don't know why the Bills hasn't done anything for him already. Maybe they are too busy dealing with Jason Peters at this time. We need a real GM.
Ignoring Peters and his agent muct take up a lot of time.
And enough with the Pro Bowl nonsense.
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When Trent proves he can put together a consistent 16 game season, he can have all of the money he wants!
Like Fitzpatrick?
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Taking everything into account, Vick was an above-average QB before he went to jail....so what could that possibly make him now? As out of touch as you clearly are for making this post, I would probably start you at QB over Michael Vick if I had to.
"Taking everyhting into account (except that he wasn't a good QB), Vick was an above-average QB before he went to jail."
And as bad as he was, it's an insult to him to mention JPL in the same paragraph--as if they shared some of the same skills.
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How goofy is it that Whitner's on FACEBOOK talking trash? Facebook!
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Give him a nice new contract. He was more valuable than Peters last year.
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I doubt very much the Jets are interested in nibbling on Bills territory. Much more likely they have decided that Hofstra (the "podunk" college where they train now, in case you did not know) is much too close to NYC, and it would be better to keep the boys out in the sticks....
Yeah, Hofstra, I know. I was on LI for 4 years. Another podunk college. If they wanted to move them to the sticks, they could simply go to Albany or New Paltz. The point is, teams don't have to go anywhere for camp and I think teams are starting to phase this off-site "camp" stuff.
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Peters should be offered a deal prorated for the number of games he actually starts in. He has yet to play a full season as "the best LT in the League".
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So what, he'll do 90 days of jail time? He'd still be ready for the start of the season, to serve his 2-4 game suspension.
THERE it is!
I don't think he'll get any suspension. It's likely the Commish will understand that Plax was obviously carrying for protection ( he has a "target on his back" too, no doubt) and no one (else) was hurt, so.....no big deal, right?
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ummm, because Pettigrew's upside is much much larger than Scheffler's. That's why.
Oh.
Offer 3rd; 2nd if we must.
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Yup. I've thought all along they would make a play for Boldin.
I'm not so sure about that anymore. NY paper are reporting they are working on a plea deal. Starting to smell like a rehab and probation and talk to kids in school about guns type of deal.
Yes they are working on it, but the DA has been saying that any plea deal must include jail time.
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Damn, you're good.
Better than the guy who made two Pro Bowls here? TKO didn't rip the Achilles until 2005.
Fletcher was here for 3 of those 5 years also.
Angelo who?
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Plaxico Burress-WR-Giants Apr. 3 - 3:21 pm et
Giants released Plaxico Burress.
wooooow
Why is this surprising? The guy is going to jail.
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I get the impression the Jets are completely screwed up and are desperately looking for anywhere to have their training camp on such short notice. They're trying to bury their huge mistake in Cortland or Ithaca.
This is old news.
The Jets don't have to have training camp at some podunk DIII college. They could have it at their training facility, like several other teams do. Seems like they are nibbling at Bills territory purposefully.
The only thing wild about the murder is that people are still falling for these African internet money transfer scams.
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The Lions and Chiefs are basically a wash.
I'd much rather face the Chargers than the Vikes, The Vikes are the better team.
And yes, Green Bay is better than the Raiders and Chiefs.
And just because you keep saying that the Bears got the better deal, doesn't make it so. I don't care how many times you say it, it wont change anything.
Anyway, The whole point of this argument is that you implied that "game managing" QB's don't have value. You also implied that Orton "sucks".
So, you have Orton, who has less offensive talent around him than what Cutler had, in a stronger division, without the guidance of Shanahan, a defense ranked 21st in the league, and a team that blew 3 10 point leads still managed to pull out a winning record.
I'm not saying that Orton is better than Cutler, because we all know that isn't the case. But you grossly misstated Orton's value. That's typical though, because misinformed fans really don't know too much and they usually make on the surface sort of comments like the one you had made.
Vikes and SD both gave up about 21 per game. SD scored more than Vikes.
Anyway.
What I have said is that a "game managing QB" will not suffice in Denver----Orton, in particular, or otherwise, because it took a QB with Cutler's passing ability to overcome a terrible defense-which will not likely change much next year. You introduced the heroic work of Orton in Chicago to refute the reality in Denver. The "guidance of Shanahan", as you may not have taken into consideration, has been replaced by the "another coattail rider, now HC, of Bill Bellichick" Josh McDaniels.
I'm pretty sure the words "you grossly misstated Orton's value" have never appeared in print before, so spare me the "misinformed fans really don't know too much" attempt at a dig. You may be an "All Pro" at TBD, but it really doesn't make you more insightful than the rest of the posters here.
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As far as I'm concerned the Bills should pull them off the draft board and put them in the circular file. The footage of them in college is tainted and who knows how much better these made them. Tony Mandarich, 'Nuff said.
There is no way to really tell. I'd have to assume that the juice is what makes them better.
Shawn Merriman. Nuf said.
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He got a one year contract from another team. Nuf said.
The best LB in 5 years??
Who would want contact with a fully nude stripper in Buffalo?
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ya the Raiders and Chiefs are really tough.
Oh ya and the Chargers have a great D
you're not going to win this argument
keep fooling yourself
Tougher than the Lions, no?
And who would you rather face, the Chargers or the Vikes?
Fooling myself? Nah. I picked the easy side of this argument--that the Bears got the better deal.
You are "fooling yourself" if you think that simply saying "you're not going to win this argument" will persuade.
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Let's swap our first rounder with the Giants and give up a fourth or fifth for Osi.
Why not? Then we can take what's his face at TE late in the first.
I'm just throwing it out there because it seems everyone makes the same outlandish predictions revolving around the same players, and then when the big moves happen, it's something nobody ever even thought of. Nobody's ever said this, so I wanted dibs.
This would be an enticing offer. If the Giants wanted to give up Osi for what is, for the most part, a swap of 1sts and a practice squader, it would be a steal.
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And yet, even with a "game managing" QB like Kyle Orton, they managed to achieve a 9-7 winning record, with Devon Hester as their best WR, with the 21st ranked defense, losing 3 2nd half 10 point leads in a much tougher division. Oh and did I say, with a QB who "sucks"?
hmmmm
no but you're right, "game managing QB's" are overrated
28 points is a tall order for a game manager like Orton. He's not an accurate passer. The Bears only gave up 21.
9-7? Big deal. A "much tougher division?" Come on--the best team in that Div. was the Vikings. None of those teams would have had a winning record in the AFCW. The NFC blows.
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4 bucks is "by far"?
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WRs have the same (or higher) bust rate as QBs, and it's not as hard to get the game managing QB McDaniels wants.
Two problems with that: first, there is only one QB on the field at a time, not two or three to choose from. Second, the Broncos are so bad defensively, what good will a "game managing QB" be for them? Will a game mangager get them 4 TDs a game?
Maybe the Bears WRs numbers are not impressive because their QBs....suck?
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Clay is Bruce Matthews' son and Clay Matthews nephew, I believe? Can a young man coming out of college into the NFL be any STUPIDER then he, with that kind of pedigree and experience to learn from, if he indeed is juicing??
"Stupider"?
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The Bears have been in desperate need of a QB, they just got Cutler. Who were they going to pick at 18? Look who they have picked at offensive skill position in the first round over the years. They know exactly what they are getting in Cutler.
The Broncos got......a bunch of picks. No names attatched. Odds are some will be busts. They'll have to spend high picks on defense because their defense is so bad, it requires an offense that can score 30 points per game. That kind of production requires .........a QB like Cutler----oops!
The Broncos have a moron owner who spent $15 million to fire his coach---only to replace him with a complete nobody (other than he shares the same work zip code as BB), who immediately set to work to get rid of the franchise QB, and totally alienate the fanbase.
Yup, tough to figure out who made out on this deal.
Whitner as FS
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Lighten up, Francis.
Does anyone believe that is actually Whitner's Facebook page?