Mr. WEO
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What tape, much less tapes, of Big Ben? They all mysteriously disappeared.
No, they didn't.
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the right is the constitution and the ability provided by it to our elected representatives to enact tax laws...by living in the USA, you give that permission. the morality of that is not salient to the discussion but i can't see how it could be considered immoral.
There was no such "right" in the Constitution. It was amended to it over 100 years after it was written.
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Didn't Ed Roski lose a lot of money over the past couple years? Don't hear much about that L.A. thingy anymore.
A guy whose fortune is tied to leasing commercial real estate? I'm sure he's doing just fine!
The LA project is awaiting a current owner who a.) wants to move to California and b.) wants to surrrender partial ownership to "Ed Roski".
City of Industry would be far better off luring an electric car company to that location.
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This also just in on the wire:
"Colts moved to Indy!".
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They won a single BCS title, got a split from the AP when LSU won the BCS, and choked against the VY led Longhorns. Every year it's been "USC this, USC that, USC is far better than everyone else......." Even when they lost it was like shock and awe and endless excuses from all of the slobalysts on ESPN. The biggest crock was when ESPN was doing the "Greatest Historic College Football Teams" face off, or whatever it was, and the USC team for that year either placed second in all of history or won out on their show. I can't remember, but I do remember that was the same year they lost to Texas in the title game. Like I said, for years they were just handing them the title without them even taking the field. Atleast for two years now they'll be watching it at home like everyone else and Carroll is now gone. Life is good.
They were handed the title? You mean they were ranked number one or close at the beginning of the season? Gee, I wonder why....
Guess you didn't see the USC-Texas title game. You missed one of the greatest title games ever.
Overhyped? That would be Notre Dame, followed closely by Ohio State.
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So to an Edwards lover like yourself, a Bills fan is not even being serious if he thinks Rob Johnson was better than Edwards???? Dude, you need to get your face out of Trent's jock and get some air.
Newsflash, Trent Edwards IS A LOSER...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...cgi?qb=EdwaTr01
He's got a 14-16 losing record, and the majority of those 14 wins are against reeeeaaaaal crappy competition. He is 5-12 in his last 17 games since this pantywaist got flattened in Arizona. I feel bad for that hit maybe being the reason for his lack of balls, but I think he should do Buffalo a favor and retire to go play golf which is his true love and passion. He needs to stop lying to himself. I feel bad for the fans who still think that Edwards is this great QB waiting to break through. He doesn't like football, doesn't like Buffalo and doesn't like the Bills. On top of that the guy is a wussy and throws like a girl. I can't wait till this loser is cut in training camp. It's gonna happen, you watch.
Hate to ruin it for you, given that great argument you spent all morning thinking up, but I all but gave up on TE last season.
Anyway---it's still remains that he has performed better than the disaster that was Rob Johnson. Pantywaist? I will remind you that RJ lost his starting job after an injury he sustained falling on a football.
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San Jose will have an NFL stadium before LA.
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Absurd argument. Call the team SF when they are essentially are hqed and play 50 miles away in San Jose?
Conceptually, I get the whole Bay Area vibe thing, but it would be like the Bills moving to Hamilton and retaining the Buffalo place-name.
As preposterous it is for the Jets and Giants to call themselves NY, NYC is 12 miles away and still by far the most populous city in that region.
The 49ers haven't moved to another state, let alone another country.
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I am not a USC fan at all. Actually, I can't stand them! But how could you possibly call them overhyped? Since '02, they have 2 National Championships and played in another NC game (VY's performance was the greatest in NC history and they lost on what was basically the last play). Since '02 USC finished no worse than #4 in the final poll (besides last year when they had a TF QB). From 02-08 they played in 7 straight BCS games (3 of them NC games) and went 6-1 destroying every team that they played. 3 Heisman trophy winners and a ton of All Americans.
USC of the 2000's were one of the greatest teams in the history of college football and there is really no argument. And if you think they were the only team commiting recruiting violations you're crazy.
So I guess my question is, how were they overhyped?
Beat me to it.
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How can I disagree with a strawman argument made by a dimwit? I don't know.
It's not a straw argument. These are your arguments.
Is it your belief that they don't receive any benefits from being born wealthy before their 50's and 60's? It is possible that Paris Hilton could survive that long.Our fundamental difference here is that it seems you believe that being born wealthy gives someone little advantage over the rest of society and I believe it gives them a great advantage. You are for an Aristocracy and I'm for a Meritocracy. I guess we'll agree to disagree.
Answer the question, or just say "I don't know".
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Do people understand the whole purpose of this thread or not?
That it's a thread devoted to not enouraging trolls by responding to them in threads? Yeah, I think we all got that.
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Thanks.
One would have to assume some degree of 'writing on the wall' with respect to the Spiller pick, in Lynch's mind.
Can Lynch read?
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Rob Johnson became less of a QB from being here, so did Edwards. At least Johnson had a #1 WR in Moulds and a real defense to take pressure off him.
Buffalo is nothing but a graveyard for coaches and QB's and is so full of bitter fans.
Please let me know when wins and losses are a QB stat. As of now, they aren't.
Says who?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnRo00.htm
PassingGlossary · CSV · PRE · Hide Partial Seasons · Game Log · Splits · TD Log · Passing TD Log · Big Games · Comebacks and game-winning drives
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% AV
Career 48 29 12-17-0 494 806 61.3 5795 30 3.7 23 2.9 74 7.2 6.7 11.7 120.7 83.6 140 817 5.3 4.8 14.8 21
4 yrs BUF 30 26 9-17-0 401 663 60.5 4798 27 4.1 17 2.6 74 7.2 6.9 12.0 159.9 85.5 110 660 5.4 5.1 14.2 17
3 yrs JAX 8 1 1-0-0 25 35 71.4 368 2 5.7 3 8.6 40 10.5 7.8 14.7 46.0 88.8 7 42 7.8 5.5 16.7 2
1 yr OAK 2 0 6 13 46.2 54 0 0.0 1 7.7 15 4.2 0.7 9.0 27.0 25.8 1 6 3.4 0.2 7.1 0
1 yr TAM 6 2 2-0-0 57 88 64.8 536 1 1.1 2 2.3 23 6.1 5.3 9.4 89.3 75.8 19 94 4.1 3.5 17.8 2
1 yr WAS 2 0
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No I wouldn't have to agree to that idiotic misinterpretation. Do the math dude it's not the same.
How can you disagree?? You clearly said you are against the advantages afforded to those who are born into money. How should you have the government fix this? How is the inheritance tax going to change this?
These are simple questions that derive from your posts.
Go on....
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I'd like to see Brown light it up, Edwards gone, Brohm be the 2, and Fitz if he stays be the 3, I agree that Fitz is the more agressive QB so far, but he seems to be better coming off the bench, or to support 1 and 2 with a clipboard. Brown has a chip on his shoulder since his hometown team ( Titans ) didnt pick him, he's got something to prove,......... let's just hope this competition provides this team with a competent QB.......!
Brown must have 31 chips on his shoulder then.
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What type of wealthy person goes into a bar and sneaks in his own booze? What type of person hits a person with his car (accident) and keeps going?
An alcoholic?
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Is it your belief that they don't receive any benefits from being born wealthy before their 50's and 60's? It is possible that Paris Hilton could survive that long.
Our fundamental difference here is that it seems you believe that being born wealthy gives someone little advantage over the rest of society and I believe it gives them a great advantage. You are for an Aristocracy and I'm for a Meritocracy. I guess we'll agree to disagree.
Coming from you I take that as a complement. Cheers masochistic egomaniac.
How is the inheritance tax going to alter the fact that some people are born rich?
If not, why not advocate for the gov't just taking more money BEFORE daddy dies--like a marginal rate of 80-90%, for instance? That would eliminate the advantage those kids have and would make them work for their money. In fact, it would eliminate the entire advantage of being rich.
You would have to agree to this given your logic displayed to this point.
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The players were smart enough to get a billion (give or take several million) from the owners over the past 5 years with that last CBA. I think it's safe to say that they realize the windfall they got, and that when the owners opted-out of it just 2 years after signing it, the gravy train was going to end. What you're seeing out of them is every attempt to gain leverage in negotiations, by claiming the TV contracts were rigged in their favor, or putting the TV money in escrow. Kind if like how the SCOTUS NFL versus ANI case helped the players immensely. If it works, it's a huge win for them. If it doesn't, it's no change from before.
And the players have no reason to agree to the owners' demands until the 11th hour. While a lockout might hurt the owners less, it's still far from an ideal situation for them since it will hurt viewership, ratings will go down, and ad revenue will go down, which the networks can recoup from the owners later-on. Ultimately I see the players accepting a deal somewhere between the first CBA and the last one, again close to the deadline of getting something done.
Most players are likely disappointed in the last CBA because the vast majority of them never realized/are still waiting for this "windfall" to appear in their contracts.
The fact that the union is just now deciding the TV contracts are "rigged" shows how far behind their leadership is compared to that of the owners. This issue of guaranteed TV money for the league even if a strike/lockout was "news" long ago. The special master will likely chuckle at this lame motion.
There won't be a lockout.
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I agree with some of what you said, but have also run into many, many upper middle class and wealthy people who were basically "born on third base and thought they hit a triple" to quote Ann Richards many moons ago. Policy arguments for an inheitance tax include that large inheritances lessen the impetus to be productive and work in offspring of the wealthy and that we want to avoid having a rigid/static class structure, where status and wealth are simply passed down from one generation to the next.
That said, I, too, have seen rich kids work their butts off to make something on their own (I recall finding out after graduation that a law school friend of mine was the daughter of folks who are probably billionaires and you would never have guessed that for a second knowing her), but I've also seen more than my share of rich kids acting more like a James Spader character in a John Hughes movie--unfortunately, in real life, folks like that don't often get their comeuppances, but instead get coveted internships and jobs and other connections that help insure success care of mommy and daddy, whether they work hard for them or not.....
Your claim that this tax is some sort of social engineering to alter the behavior of rich kids is laughable. Where do you come up with these ideas?
Look, the tax is a cudgel used to club votes out of the less informed. The amount of money involved is pretty small compared to the national fisc. What money it does bring in goes into the pile to obtain the vote of some special interest or another.
Maybe we can further mimic Europe by replacing the GDP with the GNH ("Gross National Happiness" Index)! That's what countries which produce no income or product resort to to justify their unsustainable welfare state in the face of economic reality.
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Sorry Edwards fans, Rob Johnson was better...
Rob Johnson
Games 26
TDs 27
% 64
INT 17
Trent Edwards
Games 30
TDs 24
% 61
INT 25
But these Edwards fans will somehow still feel the need to ignore the obvious, ignore what they have witnessed the last two seasons and buy into the moronic thoughts of a bad ex-NFL QB turned bad NFL analyst.
The obvious, as Coach55 pointed out, is that Johnson was a loser. 9-17 record on teams better than our current.
If you don't like or have given up on TE, fine--it's understandable. But to unfavorably compare him to the worst personnel decision the Bills made in the past 20 years removes any hint at seriousness from your argument.
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Looks like the players just had a very belated "hey.....wait a minute"
The league's television contracts for the 2011 season provide for the networks to pay the league even though there would be no games during a lockout. The union argues that this agreement was made to the detriment of the players and is, in fact, a weapon to be used against the players in the lockout.Gee, you think so?
.The union is asking Burbank to order the league to put all TV money in an escrow instead of distributing it to the owners during the lockout. This would, obviously, produce significant leverage for the unionNow? Yeah, good luck with that, Mr. Foxworth.
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I thought maybe Madonna, Sandra (blindside) Bullock and Brangelina would be adopting some gulf kids......oops! they're just covered in oil.
This is very clever!
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Mr. Weo--this is absoultely the best non-football post I have ever read on this website. It's succinct, brilliant, and goes directly to the heart of the issue.
The fact is that our value system as it relates to taxation is based on the old world theory of Master/Servant. In our system, the king is repalced with the government, and the government rigs the game to it's benefit. see your standard 401k. the government allows it's citizens to save their money for their future needs, giving them the most gracious and benevolent gift of tax deferral on the relatively small amount they save. in return, the goverment has the right to tax the entire value of the asset at the time when you use it. in fact, just to play it safe, the government maintains that regardless of your personal situation, come age 70 or so, you must begin to get their share. so, in theory anyways, the government creates millions of little annuity accounts for itself along the way. the king simply must get his share.
the estate tax issue is fundamentally the same. i won't argue the merits of it, i believe the citizens of a nation must pay for it's infrastructure through a moral and just tax code, but the citation of Messrs Gates and Buffet as super-rich proponents of the estate tax is laughable. tell you what---show me Warren Buffet's kids living on their own pennies when dear old dad heads to his heavenly reward and i'll be impressed. show me that bill gates has not used every legal corporate and personal tax dodge known to man to do his part for the greater good while he's alive, and has his kids set up with just a couple hundred thousand sheckles to survive and i'll be the first in line to shake his hand. the truth is the very wealthy go to great lengths to plan for the eventualities of life, and any suggestion to the contrary is pure naivete. And you know what? I respect the hell out of both of these people for their obvious intellect and business accumen. i just happe to think theya r e bit full o' crap in this regard.
The root of the problem is this theory of one's "fair share". Tom Golisano left NYS not long ago because his fair share in NY was different than his fair share in Florida. How is one's share "fair" when dealing with a corrupt and bloated infrastructure like that we live with in NY? We all complain about it---why should he be forced to bail out ANYTHING related to NY when the general populace is apparently 100% comfortable with the status quo?
as to the rest, class envy is great if you want to vent. rhetoric sells well to the simple-minded.
Thanks.
Good point that this isn't just about the Fed taking money and redistributing it to others---the states are far more outrageous in taking money. NY governance is a laughingstock---filled with criminals, crooks and craven incompetents.
Tax money doesn't grease the palms of politicians??? Government workers make up the biggest group of union employees in the nation. Auto workers (many who have "gold plated" health benefits that will be exempt from new taxes Obama has planned for everyone else in his country with such plans) form the next largest group. $65 billion dollar bailout for GM--a company so poorly run and so bogged down in ridiculous retirement benefits that they cannot afford to honor? A bailout of Chrysler with billions and also by simply giving the union a huge chunk of the equity in the company while stiffing actual creditors (investors) who had loaned the company billions more? Why were those companies allowed to survive? Nobody wanted to buy their cars! And there were plenty of other cars being made in this country by better run companies. I'm not a fan of the banking bailout, but at least there was some economic risk in failure there to be considered.
How can you say that tax dollars aren't used to buy votes? How old are you?
Rfeyneman, before you comment on the factual content of other posts, you should make sure your own are a lot tighter than they are now in that regard.
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I thought this was the best part of your post, so I hope you dont mind I cut the other part out.
I thought the first sentence was the best part!
NFLPA--not the smartest guys in the room
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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All players did not see more money. You know that's not true. Contracts weren't rewritten and teams were free to not pay the "extra" money.
If this is the union's big play, then they may as well get their pens out and sign whatever the owners push in front of them.
They've known about what, the "war chest" the owners have accrued with these awesome, guaranteed and filthy rich TV contracts they negotiated before the last CBA? Is that what "we" were talking about for the past year?