Mr. WEO
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There is no leeway needed. It's voluntary. When he misses something mandatory then go ahead and complain.
The guy just told you he is sitting home playing video games and has absolutely nothing else to do! Why shouldn't he be at the workouts, impressing the coach who may just throw him away otherwise?
Said it before, this kid is simply a moron.
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I'm criticizing you because you are missing the point. The NFL has achieved its success because the league has been able to corral the massive egos of the owners to dominate all other sports. What is so hard to see that the nightmare scenarios you're posing are the exact opposite of what the league has been doing for the last 50 years and that this ruling opens the door for individual owners to do what they want?
It's not really that difficult.
NFL's control and defacto single entity organization that it's been operating under i sthe only thing that's kept the Joneses in line. Now, there's no incentive for Jones or Snyder to play nice with the league.
They sucked because they're in a small market and the owner refuses to pay real money for real football people to run a real football operation. Wilson can simply sit back and collect the TV revenues and field a non-competitive product and still make a lot of money. But that's also dependent on the NFL insisting on massive revenue sharing. With this ruling, revenue sharing hypothetically could be off the table too, as owners may demand a share based on their - NFLP sales and ratings. How do the Bills shake out in that scenario?
This was a huge win for Jones & Snyder.
I think GG's right on all points. Interesting to see what happens next.
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Give me a link. Sorry if I don't trust your word.
Really? Couldn't find anything on the 2006 CBA? It was in a lot of the newspapers and on a lot of the sports shows.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2360258
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...-08-labor_x.htm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=2359623
Surprised you didn't come across it when you found the reference for the "extra hundreds of billions of dollars" the owners spent as a result of that CBA.
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You wonder when the majority of owners will tell Jones, Snyder, and Kraft to go fig themselves after their debacles with the last CBA and now this. I seriously hope they're not letting these chumps negotiate the next CBA.
Jones and Snyder didn't "negotiate" the last CBA. Jones was actually a holdout who had to be convinced by several other owners to approve.You really should go back and read about it.
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Why? they would still be subject to the salary cap. Teams keep $$ from merchandise sales at their home stadium as it is now. Nothing in the ruling says apparel bought on NFL.com or otherwise cant be shared by the league as it is now. This isnt going to have a huge affect from the merchandise side of things.
This is a somewhat of a blow to the League. If they would have won, there would never again have been a need for a CBA. But nothing else has changed----the union is still at a disadvantage.
What's to prevent JJ or anyone else from using this decision to decide who his "official Cowboys merchandiser" for gear, unis, soda, beer, etc will be? And why should he now share with the league anything he gets from a non-NFL offcial sponsor?
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Maybe he didn't understand it?
Certainly likely. Like the new overtime rule.
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Charlie Whitehurst Should Be Worrying About JP Losman, Not Matt Hasselbeck
AUTHOR: Andrew Auger
"...Pete Carroll has already put his hand picked quarterback of the future on notice, and we haven’t even reached training camp.
"Although former Bills first rounder JP Losman is still learning the system, Carroll is already praising his newest reclamation project on his major league arm:
“He’s got a lot to learn, but he has a terrific arm — a major-league arm, he’s really hungry. He wants to jump right into this thing.”
"... The competition Whitehurst should be worried about for now, shouldn’t be pushing Hasselbeck to be the week one starter; but to make sure he can hang onto his backup job with someone who has had success in this league chomping at the bit to relegate him to third string status once again.
"From ESPN: The coach has already warned Charlie Whitehurst, the backup who is pushing three-time Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck, that Losman is already pushing Whitehurst.
"Quote from Carroll on Seattle PI: 'I’ve already talked to Charlie (Whitehurst) about feeling the push from J.P. That’s kind of how this goes.'"
"This could all prove null and void though if Losman shows flashes of his 2006 form when he passed for 3,051 yards, 19 TD’s, 14 INT’s, a 62.5 CMP %, and an 84.9 QBR.
"That’s the difference between these two, Whitehurst hasn’t shown us his true colors yet. In contrast we already know what Losman bring to the table; a former first rounder who did not live up to expectations but has proven he can be productive in the NFL.
"It’s going to be an interesting situation to watch play out; what happens if Losman does indeed outperform Whitehurst in training camp?"
http://12thmanrising.com/2010/05/24/charli...att-hasselbeck/
Looks like an entire article was crafted around a simple toss away line by a coach who is applying early motivation for the guy he swapped a 2nd and gave up next years third for.
JP always looks great Monday through Friday. No doubt Carroll has already figured this out.
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You know Kelly basically recanted the California statement a couple days later, right?
It wasn't a naive statement by Kelly it was a stupid statement.
No, I am not a fan of Trent Edwards.
You are correct--he retracted because someone (his wife maybe?) pointed out the obvious stupidity of his California QB statement.
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20 teams polled, 5 including Bills said no thanks.
Didn't see this posted.
Ralph's been voting against a NY Super Bowl for over ten years.
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Nothing wrong with TE's comments.
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“My mentality is that it’s time to get back to work."
"So now what do I do? I can only play so much Madden.”
“I was staying in with my uncle Lee and my cousin Sam, and it got to a point where [playing video games] was all I was doing,” Lynch said. “And I got so good at the Wii bowling game I could bowl a strike from the other room."
Time to get back to work, huh? "Now what can I do?", eh? Maybe go back next week??
How bout heading down to the OBD for a little face time with the employer? A little time learning the playbook and impressing the lockerroom with your dedication to reclaiming the starting RB spot?
Wow, he really cuts a sympathetic figure.
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To the first part, I would say...exactly. he 'ain't' a rocket scientist by all accounts. But that doesn't mean he didn't try. I think by most public accounts (coaches at the time; Jaws etc) he was putting forth effort. Again, I don't think any of us are in a position to know for sure. I can teach a 16 year old to drive a car safely and follow the rules of the road...but if we then take the velocity to 190mph he may 'crack.' We can take him to a race course and have him practice at steadily increasing velocity but it doesn't mean everyone will become a 'great race driver.'
JP may have tried to get better....but he clearly kept 'crashing.'
there is nothing 'soothing' about what he did. I just think the guy deserves a little credibility for at least trying to publicly prop up 'his' city. Even if he did it half heartedly....he did it.
In any event, I appreciate the dialogue and we can agree to disagree.
Your 16 year old wasn't selected as future top professional driver. JPL was picked as the best of the best. He figured this was enough to carry him to league stardom and that a few quick PR trips into the community would endear him to the citizens of Buffalo when it became apparent to them that he wasn't a very good QB after all.
Look, a guy with his limited abilities should have been a legendary student of the game. It is apparent to me that his coaching staff--multiple coaching staffs---didn't think he was doing what he needed to, as he was benched twice in his career. EVERYBODY gave up on this guy at some point.
If you can find some evidence that he committed himself to the study of the game in an effort to improve his performance, I'd be happy to review it.
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To be honest I haven't looked at college stats for many players at all. Where Locker sits I don't know. My assessment is based on the information that I have heard on ESPN, draft web sites and youtube video. If you haven't done so take a look for him on youtube. The kid has an arm and isn't afraid to use it, he has incredible wheels scoring a 50+yd TD in one game and he has done it on a not so great team with a bad offensive line. I believe he may also be a 4 year starter. I know this will at least be his 3rd year starting.
Do you have some evidence to the contrary that makes you think that he will NOT be a good NFL prospect? I would like to make an informed decision.
He can't complete 60% of his passes or throw for 3000 yards. He's probably not even the best QB in the Pac 10.
Why is any better than even...Levi Brown?
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...so the time spent with Wyche and with Jaws (in the offseason) was just for giggles for him?
Having said that, how do either you or I possibly KNOW how he prepared for games? I'm just saying he seemed to try to succeed on the field (but failed) and he certainly tried to improve the town he had adopted as his own.
Other than when I watched him play? How defenses continuously befuddled him? How plays seems to break down as soon as he couldn't pass to his primary receiver (and didn't seem to know where the rest were)?
Your thought is that it is possible he spent many hours reviewing game film on opposition and knew his own playbook completely---and he still looked he did neither?
The best in the League--guys who actually have talent for the position---are typically described as students of the game who study endlessly, despite their natural gifts. Guys like P Manning and Brady are described thsi way. Yet a guy as lacking in cerebral skills as JP was never described inside or outside of the organization as a guy who recognized his obvious shortcomings and hit the film room.
JP was an average college QB blessed to play in a crappy division who had a decent Jr. year and who some low level pool scouts rated highly after one year. Lightning struck and he was a 1st round pick in what may go down as one of the best QB drafts ever. When he was benched his final year, he pouted on the sideline like a child and when he did get a chance to start, he again proved woefully unprepared.
Maybe it is more soothing for you to pretend that JP was some famous Buffalo man of the people--a civic hero because he "actually lived in the city" and did a few hgihly publicized PR cleanups.
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I know there will be some other strong arm QBs in the draft for 2011 but Jake Locker looks like THE guy. I don't know how badly we will stink up the joint next year but we should pull a Mike Ditka and give up as much as we have to to get Jake Locker. The kid has it all. The arm, the size, the mobility, played in bad weather, played with a bad offensive line. How much more perfect could a rookie QB candidate be for our Bills?
Sell the farm buddy! Get Jake Locker....long time listener first time caller but......GIT 'ER DONE BUDDY!!!!!!
Hmmmmm....the arm, the size, the mobility, and played on a team with a bad o-line?
Is Locker's middle initial "P" also?
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His second sentance sums it up for the Bills approach to Free agency...
'Bad teams can't get that much better because the list of quality free agents was short.'
There ya go. Nix wasn't going to be Donahoe, Levy or Brandon and just sign guys to appease fans. The right guys weren't there so we signed who all might help this team with this system that was available.
Except McNabb?
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Projection = another way of saying "somebody's opinion."
"Conventional wisdom" (another great term) suggests the Bills weren't flashy enough in the offseason to dazzle the talking heads at ESPN. The reality, though, is they have completely turned the organization upside down. New staff, a (mostly) new front office, new schemes on both sides of the ball, and a significant number of new players who will see playing time.
Everyone gets hung up on the QB issue and the OL, which is understandable. The disappointing part is people are unwilling to use their own brains to evaluate the situation, and just blindly follow the "experts" and their projections. Buffalo didn't sign a "name" LT or QB, so they "ignored" their weaknesses. We live in a nation of sheep.
A reasonable evaluation would look at the history of success Gailey has had with "unproven" QBs and at least leave the door open for the possibility one or more of the QBs on the roster are capable of being successful.
Have you looked at the passing game under CG in Pitts and Miami?
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so first it was "People do not smoke crack or do meth recreationally", now it is "rarely"... ok.
and where did i say they did not have a high addictive potential? you're just making up statements/arguments for no real reason here other than to distract and deflect.
YOU are the one that made the original (and incorrect) blanket statement.
yes, i agree with you that they are both very addictive. but no, i disagree that people never, or "rarely", use them recreationally.
the whole point here was trying to determine the credibility of the author and his report. i dont doubt it for a second that there are NFL players recreationally using crack and/or meth. there are LOTS of meth-head baseball players. believe it or not, it is possible for some people to dabble in drugs and continue living their life. especially when you only work 6-8months a year, but make millions of dollars. it will most likely come back to bite them someday, but for the most part, they can get away with it for quite a while.
"there are LOTS of meth-head baseball players"? I don't believe it. Why would you? "you're just making up statements/arguments for no real reason here other than to distract and deflect." Yeah, got it.
It should follow for most that "meth heads" (in baseball or elsewhere) are not people who "dabble in drugs and continue living their lives" (at a high functioning level--such as a pro athlete, you mean). "Meth heads" are drug addicts (did I really have to point that out?). They don't clean up for 8 months a year and then go back to being "meth heads" when it's convenient.
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Meth is a treatment for ADHD and obesity. So yes, people use meth without being junkies. Your family doctor could write you a prescription for the same drug sold on the streets.
Wow.
Just....wow.
he never said ALL doctors and lawyers.the point is that there are plenty of people who use hard drugs recreationally and still function as part of society. this was in response to Mr WEO saying:
Coke can is used recreationally--never said otherwise (read my quote you copied). Crack cocaine and meth are rarely used except to maintain an addiction. They have the highest addictive potential. If you prefer to incorrectly state otherwise, you are free to do so.
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He is still a great back with a great skill set. His worth on the team FAR outweighs his value in a trade. I just wish this team would commit to building the lines, not the backfields (offensive at least). We have used high picks on many backs over the years, and have ignored the lines. Ironically this includes the original drafting of Lynch. After it all an UDFA who no one wanted is currently the best back on the roster.
Thats the RB position in a nut shell
Wow--he's a "great back"?? Exactly how many "great backs" are there in the NFL right now? Must be a ton of them---in fact the average back must be great.
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He embraced Buffalo a heck of a lot more than some other players we had....even went above and beyond in my opinion. And yes...that counts for something. Too bad the on the field product never materialized. I wish him well. He certainly gave it his best shot here in all phases.
Except in preparing for games, watching film, etc..
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He's been dropping passes his whole career, so it's not like it's something new. And he ranks 5th all-time in receptions. Moreover, it's not like he wants to drop balls.
As for giving a better effort for poorly thrown balls, it's not like every reception he made was right to him. He definitely adjusted to passes thrown his way. Whether he gave effort on every single one of them, or more precisely, if he didn't give full effort on some and it was because he didn't care to or for some other reason, I couldn't say. But regardless, the Bills would have a better receiving corps WITH him than without him.
Again, not true. Without him in 2008 they were arguably better passing than in 09. More completions, far more yards and a much better completion rate.
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People do take drugs that we've all been lead to believe are super addictive in very casual ways. Not all people get addicted to substances in a way that they lose control. It's very easy to have a $500/week coke habit and still come into work every day. In many cases drug addictiveness is expressed in the most extreme ways for two reasons: 1. to scare you into not doing it and 2. to speak to the people who really are going to have a problem with it as opposed to those who will not have it take over their lives. People used heroin as a painkiller effectively for a l while before it was made illegal. Not everyone who uses it gets addicted, just a higher percentage of people than with morphine, which still has a high addiction rate. I'd bet most of these guys, having trained hard for sports fo rmost of their lives, are not huge addiction risks because believe it or not they probably have a good deal of will power to do things (or not) based on necessity.
Also, ibuprofen blocks pain receptors as does Toradol - not sure about getting you high though.
People do not smoke crack or do meth recreationally--if you use these highly addictive drugs, you probably do not have "a good deal of willpower".
Torasol, ibuprofen and other NSAIDs do NOT have anything to do with "blocking pain receptors"---they are not narcotics. They block the inflammatory response. They cannot make anyone high.
32 teams vs. one entity in the NFL
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yeah, Dallas signed off on the final deal that was presented to Tags. But, as you can plainly see (or pretend not to), Jones was a vocal holdout unitl he was convinced by Kraft, Mara, Rooney and others that the compromise deal (revenue sharing) was good for the other teams (especially Ralph's beloved Bills, although he clearly didn't realize this at the time).
Yes, I did the math and it still hasn't come out to "hundereds of billions of dollars."
But keep praying for these silly owners, they know not what they do!