Mr. WEO
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Lost my stream. I am following this and listening to the radio... my wife says I am pathetic! I guess I agree. But the re-broadcast tomorrow at noon just wont do.
Maybe it's your prostate.
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Can't fair catch a pass.
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I'll be watching how the 0-line blocks, throws down the middle for our qb's, how our D-line handles the run, pass rush, and how our LBs do. I suppose that's a lot. Oh ya and special teams. I'm not worried about our running backs or our DBs. Even if some of our guys falter I'm not too worried. They won't be able to fix everything by the 3rd preseason game. But as long as I see progress then i'll be ok. I'll be watching Moats and Maybin.
Not watching the first half?
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Everyone loves Chad!
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I certainly understand your "show me" attitude right now in lieu of what we've been thru since the Music City Miracle. I have a bunch of it too. I think what I'm seeing now MPL is intelligence. C'mon...I bet most of the guys on this board felt Dicky J was a smart man, but a slow thinker as HC. I could give many, many examples of this. I for one was sick to death of the deer in the headlight gaze, combined with head scratching & shoulder shrugs. Jauron could probably blow Gailey's doors off on a scrabble board, but on the gridiron it would be another story. It's called "street smarts" & toughness. Gailey has it, & several of our HC's before him didn't. I'll take a tough guy with street smarts any day. This is what gives me optimism. Jauron was the type at halftime, while being down two TD's to say, "C'mon men...go get 'em the second half." Gailey's the type to actually make the necessary adjustments & have a solid plan.
When has he done this? Yet? Is it not unreasonable to wait until the season starts?
I prefer Chan to those guys you listed, except Marty. Billick is a so-called offensive genius (thanks to having Randy Moss while he was OC in Minnesota), an egomaniac who got his SB win thanks to a defense he didn't really have to coach. Reeves is done, too old school for today's game. Marty has a great track record of restoring teams to playoff levels (just not moving past that)... so Marty would have been a step in the right direction.
Tell you what though -- I wish we'd have seen the light on Mike Singletary. That dude changed a losing culture in SF, and still doesn't have a legit QB.
Not yet, he hasn't.
I am pleased with Chan so far, and I am ok with his blasting of the teenagers, but it is way to early to annoint him with Saban and Levy.
See the bolded statement above. Please recall at a Levy press conference when a reporter alluded to false drug stories about Bruce Smith. Levy went nuts on the guy. Called him and others "jerks". This was broadcast on every major football show for weeks. Levy had his players backs. Bruce Smith expressed sincere gratitude for this because he did have issues in his past.
Levy did what Chan did with 100X the impact. Levy handled the entire team, press, and fans as good as you could expect. he did it in a era that was much tougher to do so in.
Saban, who I really respect a lot, had his issues with players (Gilcrest and Lamonica certainly come to mind). Levy handled all relationships with class and grace.
Good points.
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What is the significance of any pre-season win?
The significance of this preseason is that the Packers are in midseason form and the Colts starting offense looks pretty suspect. I think that matters.
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Pretty ironic that with all the absolute scumbags the NFL lets in and gives second chances to, a kid who screwed up (but didn't hurt anyone) at 16 is the one they blackball.
Well, he did f#ck his sister.
There aren't many of them left, but the taboos that still exist die pretty hard.Are you saying this taboo shoud die a little easier?
And the guy is already on second child with second woman.
Should the Bills give him a second chance because of his hard luck story or because he is better than anyone on the team at his position?
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I don't get the need for 18 games. Playoff rosters are already so beat down by the end of the season. Let me tell you the real reason owners want this. Its another home game and more television dates they get to add to the season BUT they know the players won't get that much of a pay increase and that their careers would end earlier thus they can shorten the length of contracts and make less guaranteed money.
You don't want a 16 game season its just going to lead to a season that is more watered down at the end and its going to lead to players careers being shorter and shorter.
I bet the vast majority of players have their "careers shortened" because they are released from the league (they suck) than because they are injured. I bet it's not even close. This notion of large numbers of players disappearing from the league because of 2 more games played is disproven every year by every team that advances to their second playoff game.
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One had to have a color coded kindergarten system installed for him.
One was the first QB in NFL history with 2 playoff wins in his rookie year.
As for Leinart, I was a believer on draft day and thought he would be decent after sitting behind a first ballot HOF QB like Warner for a few years. He has looked horrible. His coach has soured on him and there's no way he can recover from that.
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Agreed, this Flynn kids looks about 3 times better than Brian Brohm. Why is it when I watch these pre season games I see teams with 2, sometimes 3 QBs better than out best guy, whoever that is. Green Bay, Dallas, Seattle, New Orleans, Tennessee, and San Diego immediately come to mind. Is it coaching? Scouting? Drafting?
I would take Seattle off that list and add Washington and the Giants.
The Packers looked amazing last night. Rodgers has a laser for an arm. Colts look horrible.
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Because the town has a small population and the weather is often bad, and I am not just talking about snow. There are often rains and swirling winds.
I have no way of knowing, but I think that the Bills would top all other franchises wrt selling tickets to out of town fans, due to the number of people who have moved away. Local motels are packed on the weekend of a game, and prices seem to increase. I have paid approx. 170 dollars for a Hampton Inn.
The Bills are a unique franchise backed by sincere and devoted fans.
The weather for the games is rarely snowy or very rainy. No more than other small market teams like Pitt or GB. Seems like a lot of the out of towners are fans of the opposing team, esp. a Steelers game.
The Toronto deal was definitely a great one for Ralph. But the Bills better start winning, otherwise it will be a one-and-done deal.
As for the Bills having the lowest ticket prices, the good thing about it for the fans, besides the lower cost of seeing games relative to other venues, is they can sell their tickets to Pats and usually another game and more than cover the cost of their season tickets.
A one and done deal? Well, it's got a few years left. Anyway, I'm sure it's already a one and done--the canadians are taking a bath on this deal. They would be nuts to pay this again ($10 million a game?).
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I'm not a fan of expanding the playoffs because I think it would cheapen what it means to win in the regular season but adding the extra bye week sounds like a good idea and so does playing games on another day during the week (like Friday or Tuesday). However, I really don't think this stuff needs to be done because it seems like the NFL is not in as bad of a financial position as we might believe.
If you "win the regular season", you will make the playoffs.
Becuase there are relatively few games played compared to MLB/NHL/NBA, little really separates many teams from playoff spots (except for the really bad teams).
In 2009, there were 5 9-7 teams (4 in the AFC) and only one made it to the playoffs. In 2008, there were 4 11-5 teams and only 2 made the playoffs. There were 5 9-7 teams, 1 made it to the playoffs. Another missed out to a team that went 9-6-1.
I see nothign wrong with these essentially equal teams getting an extra game in the playoffs to prove which one belongs.
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Well, if they finish 6-10 again, how much better could they have played? Many have said that they were in almost every game last year and, a couple of breaks here and there...etc. Yet few look upon last year's record as promising.
Why would we do so this year if they finish with the same record?
There has to be an improvement in W-L. There is no other metric as satisfying.
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NEW YORK -- The average value for NFL teams has fallen for the first time since Forbes began keeping track in 1998.
The magazine released its annual ranking of NFL team values Wednesday, and it found larger-market teams have weathered the rough economy far better than their smaller counterparts. Overall, the average value decreased 2 percent from last year to $1.022 billion.
None of the top 12 franchises lost more than 3 percent of their value. The bottom six dropped by 5 percent to 16 percent.
The Buffalo Bills, 28th in the Forbes rankings, fell by 12 percent, according to the magazine. The Bills were valued at $799 million.
http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/article172457.ece
This does 2 things, it made the team more affordable to be purchased by a Jimbo led group and gave an outlook that the better the product on the field translates into more team worth. I feel this allows a upside to someone who can purchase the team and add a substantial return on investment (ROI).
Go Bills!!
$799 million is not a price tag. it's and estimate. No one (certainly not "Jimbo") is going to pay that amount for the Bills. I would say few teams would get that asking price right now. The "loss" in value is irrelevant.
Tough year for Ralph in his struggling small market. He only cleared $28 million. Get Chuck Schumer on the phone!
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Comparing attendance is apples vs bananas. Look at % of capacity. Bills are at 95.9% which is good but ranks at #22. (How does Dallas get 112%?) 10 years with no playoffs and we still fill the dump!
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This is a good point. The Bills sell out and have a relatively large stadium. Why would anyone think theyr wouldn't be near the top in home attendance?
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They are paid per game during the regular season if they are on the roster, regardless of whether they are playing.
as for preseason - they get some $$ but not a game check.
Well if they are on the roster and they get paid for every game whether they are present or not, it's not really like getting paid per game. Functionally they are paid for the season. If they want to be be truly paid per game (or extra games), they should be suited up and on the active roster.
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Peter Schrager of Foxsports makes his annual sleeper pick to make the playoffs here:
First he blasts the Bills:
ELIMINATED RIGHT AWAY
Buffalo Bills: New coach, new GM, new 3-4 defensive scheme, no space-eating DT on the roster, three unproven QBs in midst of underwhelming preseasons, no noted pass rushers and a tough, tough schedule. … Need any more reasons? The Bills could very well be the worst team in the NFL this season.
Then he goes on to pick the Raiders as his sleeper pick to make the playoffs...
I stopped reading after...
The Browns finished '09 with four straight wins, made significant upgrades at QBWhere do these guys come up with this stuff?
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I'm with the players on this one. To be honest, I'd drop a preseason game and add 2 teams to the playoffs. Keep the Regular season 16 games. They'll make much more money on the extra playoff games than they do on the PS... And the players will be healthier.
I think this is a bargaining ploy by owners, they're going to drop the 18 game thing as a concession to players in order to get them to agreement on the new CBA.
The players are not paid per game, so technically, aren't they already being paid to play in PS games? In fact, they are paid for every game--whether they play or not. Perhaps if they want extra money for extra games, they would like to miss a check for games they miss?
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sheesh. forced might be the wrong word, however, let you be the one to tell me how to do my job.
but given that this was the last day of camp, and players generally are eager to get going, i had to stop a player for a story i was working on (the wildcat, which moved today). at that point, Gailey made himself available, and it was important to talk to him, given what had happened.
but obviously, you were there and were aware of who was on the other side of that camera that got the shot of him waving. there were two Bills p.r. officials and one security person. what also pokes a hole in your argument is -- and had you been there, you'd know -- there were far more cameras behind him and to the right of him than there were those in the direction he was waving to.
it's my opinion, as i was there, that he didn't wave to the camera, he was waving at (security/p.r. staff) to ensure nothing happened. but yes, mr. unhappy, you as usual have a tin-ear on this and a nose for negativity, always seeking some type of nefarious agenda.
what's your stance on Christmas by the way?
jw
There's nothing "nefarious" about it--or "negative". It was a savvy move by Gailey--why can't we acknowledge that? I'm hardly the only one who has pointed this out, jw.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, of course.
Christmas is a great time of the year, especially for the kids. No doubt a breaking story on that will move soon.
Well if your instincts are right on, then good for him. It's about time we get a coach who does some planning. But you keep looking for that negative angle.
As above---I applaud CG for this event. It has had just the right effect on the fan base. Relax.
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thanks, mr. unhappy.
to be fair, Gailey wasn't waiving over the cameras, as you put it. i believe, he was waving to either a security official or a bills official. no reporter to my knowledge, and i was standing on the sideline, was alerted or provide any sort of a heads up that this was about to occur.
jw
Security officials?? To subdue 5 or 10 boys and girls (chanting "Maybin, Maybin!") armed with pens and programs?
Here's a heads up--the wave to the camera WAS the "heads up", jw.
I'm not "unhappy" about this little bit of fluff. I just don't mind pointing out some BS when I see it. A reporter might do the same (minus Chris Brown). Perhaps you would have too...alas: "but (I) was forced to talk to coach and other players about what happened." Forced?
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It was about what I expected.
In the original thread on this, I was the first to mention that I thought it was likely premeditated. I hadn't seen the video but you develop instincts after awhile. I guessed (corroborated later) that this heckling had been going on for a few days.
Kudos, then--your instincts were right on.
I mentioned the heckling in my thread about the first Saturday camp. They were all adults. It goes on every day no doubt. Chan picked the time everything was in place ofr a perfect youtube moment: last day, press with cameras running, a few kids to chide.
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What were you expecting?
Gailey to be waving his fist? Fans throwing their arms up in frustration upon being told that no autographs would be signed? Cheering from the players? A murmur of excitement from the media as the security detail mobilized?
Look, it was bound to be pretty innocuous.
But symbolically, it was an important moment.
Well, not much initially, until I went through all the posts devoted to the "Chandemonium". I'm guessing most who commented early on were expecting something else also, when they viewed the vid subsequently.
Doesn't change anything---although CG waving over the cameras on his way to the "beat down" kind of takes the edge off his "spontaneous act" of indignant rage, don't you think? The "watch this, guys" effect adds a layer of cheese to the event.
Otherwise, it's nice to see him standing up for his men--even in a somewhat staged event.
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That's it? Expected something else---at least some adults in the group. He yelled at a group of about 10 kids, it seems. I can tell you that I witnessed many adults heckling TE way back in the first week--certainly within earshot of Gailey.
Why wait until the last day of camp to go off on a few kids? Was it because the cameras were right there? You can see him waving them over to follow him.
Preseason 3 "Gameday" thread Cincy @ Buffalo
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Can someone slap Maybin? He gets put to the ground and out of the play, gets up and dives onto the QB, who was already taken down. Then he gets up woofing.
WTF??