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I think Snachez is going to be very average. That said, he made a very good move to come out this year. In any other year, he would have been a borderline 1st round pick if there was more QBs in the draft. Bradford and McCoy would have been taken ahead of him. He has had one good year in college and couldn;t beat out booty for the starting job head to head. The USC system is sets up their QBs to be amazing in college. Also, playing in NY in Decemeber wil lbe a little different than LA.
The Jets also gave up on Clemens way too early. That Jets team he played on was terrible. But the fact is that the Jets drafted Sanchez for marketing reasons. Fans aren't going to get pumped for a new stadium with Clemens under center. They will for Sanchez. Ideally, it should be a head to head competition in camp but the Jets will hand the job to MS.
I hope they enjoy 3rd place.
Does the OP really not understand how a top 5 1st round pick QB is going to get a huge contract? That's the cost of drafting that position that high. Look at what Matt Ryan got last year--almost seven million more guaranteed--coming out of BC with a lot of question marks. How about the Fins? They paid Jake long more than Sanchez and he's never gonna touch the ball!
Besides the article says it's the richest contract ever given by the Jets to a rookie.
Who knows how Sanchez will turn out? But it's clear that the Jets had seen enough of Clemens to know that he's a stand in until they find a franchise QB.
If Sanchez is a "borderline" QB, then how could he attract fans to the new stadium? Who would pay all that money to see that? Makes no sense.
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No there won't be a "spending spree" by any owner. That was hyperbole on my part, meant to say that if Jones, Snyder, or Kraft even entertained the idea of going on a spending spree, he/they would get slapped down by the other owners because they were responsible for putting them in this predicament. The reason why the owners opted-out was because the players got too much, and going on spending sprees would be the height of stupidity. Although I guess there is Al Davis.
I agree that there likely won't be an uncapped year, as there will probably either be a new CBA or a lockout. About two years too late the owners present a united front.
And Ralph was arguing against the CBA because it was garbage. Hence the reason why the owners opted-out of it. It's plainly obvious to even the simplest person. But since it was "Krafted" by your guy, you obviously think it was a work of art.
Well, as I pointed out and you did not dispute, the NFL owners have the best labor situation in sports.
The last CBA passed 30-2, pretty united most would say.
I don't really have an opinion on the CBA. I don't own a team. The new CBA did not make the Bills any more or less successful. I just watch the games and hope for the best. Why do you pretend to care about the CBA--it has nothing to do with you. If they didn't buy two years of labor peace with the "crappy CBA", we would just have been at the 2010 point two years ago, looking at lockout vs. no cap. Obviously they built in an opt out clause for a reason. They knew what 60% meant before they signed.
Ralph's first objection was only because the cap would immediately go up. But his protestations proved to be meaningless, becuase he had no obligation to pay the increased cap anyway. He wanted language on how the "big market teams" (I don't think even Ralph considers Denver in this group) were going to give him free money ("revenue sharing"). The CBA didn't hurt Ralph one bit.
Hey, look who can't resist bringing up the Pats.
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OK, fine. The OP will have to acknowledge that our defensive talent (including Mitchell, Poz and Whitner) is below average.
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False. The original poster did a great job of organizing stats and data. He then asked the most logical questions that related to that data. You have struggled through out this whole thread to mount a negative rebuttle and now you are trying to spin the point of the original post. When you get whipped in your usual embarassing fashion, you fallback on plan B and just put words in other peoples mouths. Show me one place that anyone said that "turnovers are the reason and that nothing else affected this teams success in 08". Just an all out smear campaign right BillsVet?
I don't think anyone would argue that TO ratio is NOT a critical factor in a team's success. I certainly didn't.
The OP was inferring that since the TO cannot be influenced by the coach, then our "coaching" was actually improved, given some actual (or nonexistent in some of the categories listed) statistical measures. I was arguing that was a bit of a jump.
The record was 7-9 and 0-6 in the division. That is worse than '07.
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After that embarrassment of a CBA Jones, Snyder, and Kraft assured everyone was so great, only to see it killed just 2 years later, putting them in this predicament, yeah, the last owners to go on a spending spree will be these three jokers.
So you say they willstill be going on a spending spree and they will be "forced" to spend less? Which is it?
The top FA's will get ridiculous contracts----just like they do now. The rest of the FA's and guys up for contract renewal will get what they can, just like they do now. Teams are winning while staying below the cap and they will do so without breaking the bank in an uncapped year. Teams that toss money around like Dallas and Wash haven't doen anything in a long time.
The NFL owners have it better than MLB and the NBA because they have the ultimate weapon: contracts are not wholly guaranteed. They don't want a guy, they cut him. They owe him only his guaranteed portion and they are rid of his cost. The "cap hit" is only meaningful if the team plans on spending to the cap. The Rangers were still on the hook for $67 million of A-Rod's salary AFTER he started playing for the Yankess. Look at the Knicks---aren't they still paying Allen Houston, maybe Larry Johnson for crying out loud? They are years away from getting out from under outrageous contracts. Also, the Cowboys would never have taken TO off of Philly's hands if they had to assume his remaining contract (just signed for 7 year $49 mil contract the year before), as they would in the NBA. Top MLB players also have a "no trade clause" they often attatch to their contracts. In both leagues, players are getting 5,6,7, even 10 year contracts--all guaranteed. Even crappy players get much more money because the rosters are tiny compared to the NFL.
The NFL owners "own" the players. If there is no CBA agreement, expect them to shut out the players.
It's no wonder Ralph was arguing against the CBA. He's drooling (figuratively this time) over no minimum cap (while still getting the annual $120 million from the NFL TV contracts) and the possibility of a luxury tax (more free money from other owners). No doubt he will still put on the "po me" act saying how with an uncapped league it will be even harder for him to make a buck.
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A "full weekend", eh?
It's official, there's nothing left to post about until camp.
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Obviously, there is a lot of talk on this board about our coach and quarterback. Thoguh I think coaching is somewhat overrated on the NFL level, these are two huge areas of concern for this team. Whenever people get excited about this team, the "negative" folks love to point out how terrible Jauron & company is. However, I present the following:
- We were the #1 special teams unit in the NFL and led the NFL in average field position.
- In 2007, we scored 15.8 points/ game (30th). This year, we scored 21 points/ game (23rd).
- In 2007, we gave 22.1 points/ game (15th). This year, we gave up 21.4 points/ game (19th).
- In 2007, we finished 31st in defense. This year, we finished in 14th.
- In 2007, we finished 30th in offense. This year, we finished 25th (modest gain, by a gain nonetheless).
- In 2007, we finished 30th with our QBs posting a 73.8 rating. This year (and it was dragged down considerably by our backup QB), we finished 22nd with a 81.3 rating.
- In 2007, we finished 15th in rushing with a 4.0 ypc. This year, we finished 14th with a 4.2 ypc.
- Additionally, we also improved in Time of Possession from 27th to 17th this year.
So if we improved in every area, how could we win the same amount of games as a team led by a rookie/ out of the league QB which one of the worst injury situations I have ever seen? This is why:
- In 2007, we fumbled 20 times (7th best) and lost 7 (5th best). This year, we fumbled 36 times (2nd worst) and lost 15 of them (2nd worst).
- In 2007, we threw 14 ints (6th best). This year, we threw 15 (16th best).
- In 2007, we forced 29 fumbles (9th best) and recovered 12 (13th best). This year, we forced 21 fumbles (16th best) and recovered 12 (10th best).
- In 2007, we had 18 INTs (10th in the NFL). This year, we had 10 ints (27th in the NFL).
- Overall, in 2007, our turnover ratio was a +9 (6th in the NFL and the only one of the top 7 teams that didn't make the playoffs). This year, we finished -8 (27th and a negative change of 17).
Here's a few of the conclusions I drew:
1) Obviously, turnovers are the name of the game. Look at the difference teams like the Ravens, Fins, & Ravens made in one year.
2) In almost every area, we improved. Isn't that what you want from your team?
3) I think it is interesting that the INTs throw was pretty much the same and middle of the pack. If there was a significant increase, you could blame it on the coaching philosophy. However, you can't.
4) As crazy as it sounds, I think Rian Lindell was a huge factor in some of our losses. In 2007, Lindell was 24 of 27 fg attempts (89%, 10th in the NFL). This year, he was 30 of 38 in fg attempts (79%, 31st in the NFL). In some of the close games the Bills lost, a missed field goal that Lindell probably would have made in 2007 totally changes game stragety.
So here are my questions for discussions:
1) How much does the coaching staff deserve in blame for the change in turnover ratio? IMO, I think is clearly on the players. If you somehow blame Jauron, you also must give him credit for 2007.
2) Do we make the playoffs this year with our 2007 turnover ratio?
3) Is Lindell a good enough kicker to count of in close games?
Discuss.
Using "rankings" for these metrics is not meaningful--a few TOs or yards/passes/etc per game in any category will group many teams together. If you go by actual metrics, the main difference in all the categories you list is that we fumble a lot and don't intercept many passes (despite our "5th rated DBs"). And you are right, logic would tell us that these cannot be directly attributed to a coach.
But you cannot, logically, then say that, therefore, this is evidence that the coaches are not as bad as others may believe. The gameplans, realtime decision making and results were as we saw them.
The team was significantly better last yearNo, not significantly. See above.
Certainly TO ratio is a huge factor separating winners from losers. I agree 100%.
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I'd like to see McCargo return to form.
Which form is that?
The guy who keeps sustaining the same injury or the guy we tried to dump on the Colts?
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Technically, you don't have a verb in the highlighted sentence, as the word "demonstrate" is part of a noun phrase that is the direct object. Take your post back to your desk, and try harder.
The verb is "is".
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Doubtful. The owners will want to teach the players a lesson. As much as it will pain Jones, Snyder, and Davis, they'll be forced by the other owners to spend as little as they can.
Can you see Earth from your planet?
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Simple is right. Virtually every discussion about James Hardy has you whipping out the "he pulled a gun on his dad" line. Where was there even an investigation of it, much less an arrest, charge, conviction, etc? There was only an elderly lady making that claim and nothing more, yet you took it as gospel. Yet here, simply because charges were dropped against Marshall, it's a non-issue. No surprise there! And again, the Commish doesn't have to go by what the law decides, as has been your and others' reason as to why Goodell had a sit-down with Lynch after getting a traffic ticket.
Actually, when mentioning Hardy, I always mentioned that he beat up his girlfriend and his infant child. The pulling the gun on dear old dad is a nice touch by Hardy, though. What do you think was the lady's motivation to make up such a story? Come on genius, tell us. Maybe the old lady is a cop who then falsified a police report? No doubt!
Also from that article, seeing as how you like to believe whatever is convenient for you:If you understood irony, you would laugh at this quote. You "conveniently" left out the following:
After the impoundment, Lynch went to Police Headquarters to reclaim the vehicle, but police wouldn’t give it to him, because it actually belonged to a local car dealer.Lynch had a disagreement with some police personnel over the release of the vehicle, apparently prompting the clear-the-air meeting, sources said.
Lynch was tossed out of two Chippewa Street bars in recent months because he brought in his own bottle of liquor, which is illegal under state alcohol laws, according to three law enforcement officials.“[buffalo police] have been told by bar owners that he’ll walk in, order a glass of pop and pour his own liquor into it,” one officer said. “He was told that you can’t do that, and it doesn’t matter if you’re Marshawn Lynch.”
That is why one law enforcement official was not surprised to hear about the latest incident involving Lynch’s vehicle.“God, no, I wasn’t surprised at all,” the source said. “It follows a pattern. It’s the kind of stuff he’s been doing. He’s just so cavalier about everything. That was always my impression.”
I have already, long ago, acknowleged that he may not have known he hit her, especially if he was a bit tipsy...and did not hide his car. Still wondering why he didn't answer the door...or if he couldn't bring himself say anything, why his buddies didn't vouch for his innocent activities that night. Curious. Obviously when he was faced with his buds having to spill to the grand jury, ML said "let's make a deal". Why did he fear a grand jury if there was nothing to tell?
I said traffic ticket, i.e. moving violations, not a speeding ticket. IOW, he didn't get nailed with a criminal charge. Because there was ZERO evidence he was impaired or knew he hit her. And the official I quoted above (from a newspaper article) didn't seem to think that it was hit and run. So why should you? You "like how he runs" and he's allegedly a player on your favorite team. Yet you seem to think he deserves a harsher penalty than another player got for worse infractions. Curious.Actually, what he pleaded guilty to was "failure to exercise due care toward a pedestrian." Which is kind of strange--why would a guy who says he never saw her accept a plea to this offense. Why not fight it, grand jury be damned! Tell us.
Never said he deserves "a harsher penalty than another player got for worse infractions", but it looks like another Bills-hating-Patriots-loving-scribe does:
Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch has hope. His three-game suspension for poor conduct could be reduced on appeal.There's precedent. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell last summer trimmed Denver Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall's suspension for bad behavior from three games to one.
It would be a bad idea to give Lynch similar treatment.
Why would I believe it was a hit and run? Because for a month after this event, ML never told anyone it wasn't. His cohorts otherwise inexplicalbe clamming up allows me to assume the worst.
The Admin Law Judge who took his license away told ML he found Lynch's behavior on May 31 "constituted a reckless disregard of human life or property."
What does he mean buy that? Curious.
Not f**king knowing hasn't stopped you from offering your opinion on other stuff, man. Go ahead, tell me WHY Goodell didn't say "Lynch will get a 3 game suspension, but if he stays out of trouble and gets counselling, will only have to serve 1?" Come on Mr. WEO, you know the f**king answer.Oh, that's right EVERYONE knows the answer to this one: it is because the Commissioner of the NFL is engaged in an overt campaign to screw the "small market teams" and "protect" the "big market teams", like Denver...Colorado by handing out wildly diiferent punishment for different individuals. So pervasive is this conspiracy, he even has convinced all other owners--even those of the small market teams that this is good for the League---and not one owner has raised an objection as to how their misbehaving players have been treeated by the league.
Gentleman, Mr. VOR!
Oh, you were "mocking the fawning." Who the f**k are you to mock anything, pally? Are you a scout? Have you ever seen him play? Unlike Tulane, Penn State games ARE on TV quite often. This is a classic!Got to admit, didn't see many Penn State games. And for what I did see of them, I, unlike you, wasn't scouting out Maybin as the Bills likely 1st round pick. I guess you were way ahead of everyone a TSW. Take a bow.
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My sense is that the good news is that the Bills are actually taking a serious look at building a new stadium in Buffalo.
There is absoluutely no credible evidence that the Bills, who don't even have a plan for succession of ownership pending Ralph's imminent demise, are now planning a new stadium. Just "rediculous".
As soon as word got out that the Bills were seriously looking at building a new stadium in Buffalo, the price of any unacquired land and the prices of any nearby land would grow.So the Bills are going to use a secret identity when they shop for a massive tract of downtown land?
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Or the fact that he takes plays off?
Look if the guy takes off 10% of the plays, he'll fit right in here. Heck, if it is only 10%......
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Oh, so you believe the report that Marshall was kicking and punching his woman, but have no problem with Goodell saying that he won't suspend him again over this incident because, hey, he has another case pending against him? Yet Lynch (whose running you love, and we've heard you say it so many times) deserves his 3 game suspension because of a traffic ticket, wholly unsubstantiated pot allegations, and an illegal gun locked in a box in the trunk of his car? LOL!
I've said this three times now (you too, Ramius), I believe the police report--it said they found two people punhing and kicking each other.
and a repeat domestic violence charge wasn't enough to get Marshall suspended again.There was no "repeat domestic violence charge"--there were no charges from this latest incident. You've already said as much--you are confusing yourself! Slow down. And if he is found guilty on pending charges, I would expect the Commish to suspend him. Simple.
Johnson was suspended for 8 games, not 10 as you state, and at the time of his suspension, Sir Roger said there was the possibility of reducing it to 6 games if he stayed out of trouble and got counselling. But beyond correcting that fact, how many run-ins with the law did Tank Johnson have before a) Goodell even had one of his oh-so-effective "sit downs" with the young lad, and b) before he saw fit to suspend him? Let me tell you, since I doubt you'll get it right yourself. He was first caught with an illegal gun in his car (in the passenger cabin, not locked in a box in his trunk) outside a nightclub. Then he was later arrested for aggravated assault and resisting arrest (and had to be maced), although the charges were eventually dropped. Then the police raided his home and found more illegal guns, some loaded with children in the house, which violated his probation. His bodyguard was also found to be in possession of pot, which was obviously his (wink, wink). It was after all this that Goodell had his "sit down" with Johnson, after which he suspended him for the aforementioned 8 games, for repeated similar offenses/violating parole. Much like he finally suspended Marshall after repeated similar offenses.So now we're counting "run ins with the law"? You forget ML's first "sit down" with the Police after twice getting caught sneaking booze into a drinking establishment, which is against the law. No charges were filed. Instead, Lynch brought his mamma and a representive of the Bills to a meeting with the cops. He got off without a charge, just like Johnson did in the resisting arrest incident. What's your point now?
But to answer your question, Johnson had two arrests. He plead to a misdemeanor on the first gun charge. The second, was also a misdemeanor for the guns locked up in his house.
Once again, I'd like to know how the Commish even suspends Lynch for 3 games, for 2 dissimilar incidents, with the first being just a traffic ticket? I'd also like to know how it's so unreasonable to want to see the 3-game suspension reduced to 1 game, and why that hasn't happened, yet, seeing as how he appealed a month ago?ML didn't get a speeding ticket, chief. It was a hit and run. The Commish and the rest of the world (almost) knows this. It weighed in his decision to suspend ML. The pot had nothing to do with that decision. However, the fact that you still insist that the cops "made that part up" is astounding, especially since you still cannot explain why no one (Lynch, his lawyers) bothered to challenge such an outrage--especially if this was the leagal reason for the car search and subsequent arrest. The dissimilarity in charges should make no difference. Pacman was involved in all sorts of bad behavior and got booted for a year.
Why hasn't Goodell ruled on the appeal yet? How the f**k do I know? Send him an e-mail. The point is, both morons (oops, is that a bad word?) deserved a suspension. Both got one on their second strike, for essentially the same misdemeanor charge (unregistered weapons). ML got 3 and Johnson got 8 (my error)--with no prior "sit down"/warning. So stop crying.
And hey, I don't know what makes you think you're a Bills fan, man. When you say idiotic sh-- like "have you not seen [Maybin's] killer first step," it reveals you as a troll. I don't know, what did Maybin ever do to you that you would make such a statement? Has he proven to suck on the playing field? Did he commit any crimes? Does he draw attention to himself and "destroy teams?" Was he a "reach?" Then the stuff about TO is mind-numbingly idiotic. I'm still waiting to hear from you whether TO needs to be the leader in all receiving categories on a catch-by-catch basis, versus game-by-game, or season-by-season? Like if Evans catches 2 passes to start the Patriots* game and TO has 1 or none, will he "destroy" the team then?Regarding the "killer first step" I was more mocking the fawning of guys like you, who have never seen the kid play, going on and on about what you read in some scouting report---as though you it was a conclusion you personally came to. No doubt you were right on board repeating the "JP Losman is very mobile and a great scrambler" stuff back a few drafts ago, despite never having seen even a clip of a Tulane game.
I liked the Wood pickup, although few of our draftees were going to be playing their natural positions--I and many others pointed that out with some concern.
As for TO, I have already, on more than one occasion, given you the approximate requirement for TO to remain fairly benign in his first year. Regardless, he will let us all know when he's not happy.
And look, it's not a hard concept to grasp that an employee (which Goodell is) would suck-up to his more powerful employers (which Bowlen, Shanahan, Snyder, Jones, etc.) are. I'm sure you do it as well. There is simply NO other reason for his rulings when it comes to Brandon Marshall, as well as other players, versus Lynch.Shanahan is one of Goodell's "more powerful employers"? Well, that explains it ALL--Shanny's one hard-ass hombre. "NO other reason"! The Commish will certainly do well to heed Shanny's bidding!
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Pisa ain't no T.O.
Then how is it that he has generated 16 different threads dedicated to him possibly but ultimately not becoming a Bill?
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Actually Jones put up a small fraction of the money the city of Arlington paid most of it. On top of that the seats have leasing requirements which means you put up 4K just to get the rights to a seat then you pay season ticket prices every year.
Actually, the City of Arlington put up $325 million with tax increases, the NFL kicked in 150 million. Jones is on the hook for the rest of the total cost of over a billion $$$. Do the math--$600 million is not "a small fraction".
Gee, leasing requirements for season tickets? That Jones is a monster for daring invent such a crazy concept!
Sheesh.
Anyway, 4000 for a seat license is peanuts---check out the prices for the new Giants/Jets stadium.
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Marvin Barnes
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All this speculation from one throwaway line by a company obviously always looking for another contract?
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Credibility? LOL! You can't stop responding to ANY mention of the Patriots, pally. And we've had an influx of them over the past several months, but to their credit, they don't claim to be Bills fans. You're either a Patriots fan or so bitterly twisted as a Bills fan that you seriously need to walk away from football to correct your mental health. I can only imagine that you fancy yourself as being smarter than everyone else for blowing the Patriots at every opportunity while also taking every opportunity to slam the Bills, but if you're truly a Bills fan and continue to follow them, despite how horrible you basically say they are, that makes you a moron.
Yes, it was SO much more predictable than you not believing it, because "charges were dropped." You see simpleton, Marshall has a pattern of violence towards women. In fact he was suspended because of it. Contrast that with your pathetic clinging to Lynch bringing-in his own alcohol into bars as the smoking gun for your notion that he was impaired the night he hit that woman (hey, let's call that incident "violence against a woman" and pretend it meant nothing like Sir Roger does, shall we?), versus how
charges were reduced" to a traffic ticket. Way to prove your credibility there, sport.
Why does Goodell favor bigger markets? Because ALL sports generate more revenue when their top markets are doing well. Is that so hard of a concept for you to understand? But an even simpler explanation is "self preservation." The big market owners essentially hired him. You saw the way they got the rest of the owners to accept that piece of sh-- CBA (yeah, Ralph really "made a scene of himself" then, seeing that they dumped that POS just 2 years after, and how Jerry Jones won't even sell naming rights to his new stadium
). So looking the other way when Wilfork "accidentally" bashes JP on the knee or pokes Brandon Jacobs in the eye, or Marshall beats up his chick, is a convenient way to help himself out. But you knew that already.As I said, I believe this police report, not sure why you are saying the opposite. The rest of your argument that follows is unintelligible.
Because he had a prior (a misdemeanor), Goodell gave Tank Johnson 10 games. What was his crime? Was he driving around in an untagged vehicle with his post smoking cronies with a loaded gun in the trunk? No, cops raided his housewhere he kept a collection of guns that he bought in another state but failed to register with the Illinois State Police. These were in his home. He did 45 days for this. And Chicago is the third largest market in the country.
Speaking of which, I guess you didn't get the part where Denver is not considered anywhere else to be a "big market". It is in fact about 20th largest in the USA, if you actually include the true definition of "market" as the NFL and everyone else does. But even if the Commish was favoring the "big markets" (the real ones), why would the Jets still suck (he 's a Jets fan for crying out loud)? WHy would the Skins suck? or San Fran? Or Seattle, Miami, Houston? Detroit?? Why wouldn't a team exist in the 2nd largest market inthe country? 4 of the top 5 markets either have no team or a team that hasn't won a SB in a very long time. Where's the love for the big markets? Why reach all the way down to the-market-I-dare-not-mention to shower with favors?
All these markets are bigger than Denver. But let's humor you and, for a second, suspend disbelief and assume that, for reasons that you cannot clearly articulate, the Commish felt it would be an act of "self preservation" to help out Denver by not suspending Marshall. Now, clearly there are better ways for Goodell to help out the Broncos (and "preserve" the very League itself!)---for instance, he could have forced Pat Bolen to keep Shanahan instead of eating 15 million to let him go for the moronic "Josh McDaniels". Or, barring that, he could have used his awsome powers to prevent the idiotic McDaniels from trading his franchise QB. Or prevented him from drafting a RB in the first round. Or....well, there's lot's of stuff he could have done for this crucial Denver franchise.
I hardly go on about how "horrible" the Bills are---certainly no more than many here. You made that up. If you paid attention, you would see that I have nothing against ML as a player--he plays hard. I have never said TO was horrible either. Just pointed out what others already had--that his signing was a desperation move. Peters I said was not worth keeping and when he was traded, I thought it was a good move by the FO. DJ is a crappy HC.....etc, etc---any of this seem familiar? I don't always bring up the Pats (but you sure seem to--though you tend to get confused that you did), but I do respond with an opposing argument when I think there is one to be made. Most of you and your buddies think this is "gay", I guess.
That's how you and I are different. You see any argument against the Bills as for another team. Or for another team as against the Bills. These are entertainers, this is entertainment. We all love it. But, unlike you, I don't find it healthy to get so wrapped up in the personal lives of the players that I would go to embarrassing lengths to explain or excuse poor behavior by them. And all this paranoia about the league having it in for the Bills...it's hard to imagine you walk around thinking and worrying about this stuff all day. I can almost see the spittle you are spraying on the screen as you peck away.
Bitter? Twisted? Mental health?
Brother, you need a time out. Go get your head together, man.
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one question:
how can the coverage of the latest house-hunting tweet be considered as negative?
t.o. tweeted something. several boards, including this one, picked up on it, and that was followed up by the media.
owens then didn't hide from what he posted, or duck questions about it.
and he didn't really pop off on anyone on the bills or buffalo for that matter, simply taking an amusing dig or two at the real estate agent.
and yet this is somehow considered "negative" coverage?
jw
You're wasting your time scratching your head over this gropu, JW. GG is right--it is a dep seated sense of inferiority that prevents a lot of these guys from just dealing with reality and instead forces them to into a fantasy world where everyone is out to get them (and the Bills), the media hates them (and the Bills) and anyone who points out the obvious and the real is not a real fan.
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So there you have it: 3 different articles giving three different estimates--all citing "the Bills" as their source.
My original point stands. Ralph can be bought. It won't hurt his bottom line in any way.
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thanks, folks, and noted. i'll resist the urge to say anything more in regards to the coincidences noted above.
as for the 15,000 number i got was one provided by Bills. also consider that Sabres estimate 15-20 percent of their house is also Canadian, so it's in the same ballpark, so to speak.
jw
ADD: should be noted that in my experience, not all canadians attending games are "bills fans," some are fans of the other team, others here for the experience. so Mr. Weo's claim that there weren't many bills fans at game in toronto is a little specious, especially this claim that there are more fans from pittsburgh and cleveland than from canada. how can anyone tell?
heck, who knows if half the browns fans at RWS are from canada. can't prove it one way or another, really.
so it's a little over-eager to come to any conclusions on toronto fan interest or canadians attending games at RWS, i think.
If, as The Dean claims, the Bills have specific data, there would be an actual number. They wouldn't give two very different numbers to two different sources.
Maybe I should have said "Steelers fans" instead implying "American Steelers fans", so as to include all of those Canadians who come to watch the Steelers at Ralph Wilson Stadium.
If not all canadians are Bills fans, but instead are fans of the other team or just there for the experience, why is it "specious" to imply that the Bills game in Toronto was not filled with a majority of Bills fans?
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He hasn't missed an OTA and puts extra work in with Trent. How come noboby reports on that? Oh wait TO finding a house is more inportant.
God i hate the media.
Guess it hasn't occurred to you that the source feeding "the media" about TO's enthralling saga searching for temporary housing is none other than TO himself.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4174583
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/5/18/...tice-highlights
http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/bills...azBoHAycQQ.cspx
http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/billsnfl/story/685128.html (this one specifically about Trent and TO)
http://www.wgrz.com/sports/story.aspx?storyid=67268
Dumbest post of the day
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5 years 50 Million-are you serious?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Favre played poorly against the Bills and we still lost both games last year. In fact he lost 4 of his last 5 starts and during that stretch, he threw for 2 TDs, 9 ints and was sacked 9 times.
"Demonstrating that point (that, right now, Favre to Snachez is a huge dropoff), on the other hand, more or less impossible."