Mr. WEO
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Aaron Rodgers and Ben Rothlesberger seem to do just fine, since they were the two most sacked QBs in the NFL and were among the highest rated passers too. Good QBs make plays, period.
Those are two of the best QBs in the League. We all know that TE isn't on that same level. Relax, it was game preseason game 1.
Jeezus.
Rothlesberger gets sacked because of Rothlesberger.
Rodgers accrued all those sacks in the first half of the season last year. Once his top Ts were back I believe he was sacked only 10 times in the second half of the year (+/- a game or two.)
Huh??? That's a unique point of view.
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Fitz as #2? This is the least surprising news out of camp so far. Who really thought it be otherwise?
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You're kidding, right?
Derek Anderson has taken the #1 spot and he's better than Fitz by a good bit.
That's unlikely, to be kind.
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I am not picking on anybody. I am just asking a question and stating some fact. I will also ask who is responsible for teaching the players what is necessary to play a certain position or scheme? The coach for that particular aspect of the game not the peanut vendor….
What fact are you refering to?
These?:
"I am just not very comfortable with what I saw"
"I just don’t have a good feeling about SP…."
"I sure hope I am wrong"
And what, exactly is "SP"?
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Why get on Dehaven? How were the STs last season?
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There's a lot to this list I don't like. Jason Campbell and Matt Cassell ahead of Byron Leftwich? Don't think so. Cassell should be last on this list. Edwards may not be too much higher than Clayton has him slated, but I don't see him being way down at 31. For the time being at least, he should certainly be ahead of Kevin Kolb who still hasn't played enough to give a thumbs up or down.
That's the first thing that catches your eye??
Leftwich is ranked way too high. At this point, he's well below Edwards.
Delhomme is last, where he belongs.
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Ahhh....Deadspin
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In fact we signed him to an extention.
PTR
Not only that, some justified the insane resigning by saying that DJ would be a hot commodity after his third season and there would be a "bidding war" to retain his services as HC.
So I think it's rasonable to reserve judgement on the latest/greatest HC until he produces a different result.
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Keep Fitz as a vet and teacher? That's funny, I thought the Bills need a back up quarterback, not Obi Won Kanobe. In my humble opinion, Fitz should be cut by tomorrow and allowed to catch on with another team. Brohm and Brown are fine as back ups / #3's. They are both young and have more upside then Fitzy, who by the way is only about 26 or 27 himself, but has zero upside beyond what he is, a career number two.
Because things are so damned tentative with Edwards being the starter, Fitzy is simply not good enough to "take over as a number one" half way through the season. Brohm should absolutely be the back up this season, because Fitz had his chance to be the starter on a pretty damn good offense in Cinti a couple years ago when Palmer went down, and he sucked. Brohm deserves a chance to be a second string one play away from starter, to see how he does. And Levi? Who knows, but the kid is just a 7th round rookie.
Fitz WAS our starter last year--for half the season and won 4 games. So you think Brohm, who has done nothing, is a better option at backup, right now, than Fitz? You would make him #2 just "to see how he does" if TE goes down?
Yeah, OK.
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Despite back to back crappy 7-9 seasons, I don't recall many here posting about how bad DJ was after he started his third season 5-1.
Just sayin....
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Long overdue & the key to keeping the team in Western New York. A way needs to be found to get this done. I don't care if it's built in Niagara, just build the darn thing. Thoughts?
I think it's going to happen right after they complete the stadium in LA.....
You sound like an architect. Or else like someone who is used to spending other people's money. Why does the stadium need to "stay somewhat contemporary?"
To the OP - so you are saying that the new owner MUST take on debt. Wrong answer - no debt load is one of the reasons why this team, in this market, is still making money.
Actually, the new owner will be taking on massive debt regardless. Unless it's the old man's wife. So the new owner will struggle to make a dime for many years.
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Because the NFL owns the copyright and can distribute it as it sees fit. If you don't subscribe to HBO, should you be able to watch their programming because it's on in your neighbor's house?
If my naeighbor invites me and 20 people over to watch a fight on HBO, are we committing an illegal viewing? Are you saying we should pay HBO for the viewing? It certainly seems you believe so.
It's not your property to make that determination with.
If you're a band with a song, do you want some guy in California to say, "I can buy the song if I want but why should I when I can get it for free?" When you do that, and so many here do that I know I'm talking to a wall, you hurt the artist.
If instead of buying it, I "get it for free" from the radio and then I tape the song and put it and others on a mix tape as a gift to someone, is the recipient of the gift tape "illegally" listening to the music?
I can't imagine anyone could trick themselves into thinking watching a online feed of a copyrighted telecast was legal, but I hear what you are saying
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What if the "streamer" paid for the game and put it up on the internet for anyone to view, and charged nothing? Why is it "illegal" to watch? If I go to the bar and sit there and watch the game that someone else paid for--is that much different? What if it was put up (illegally) on youtube---is it "illegal" for me to watch it?
Of course it's not.
I don't remember the moral crisis surrounding this topic last season.
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None of them would start for Arizona. Nuff said.[/b] LOL.
And our QBs have looked sensational this preseason???! LOL. The fact that my poll is a landslide thus far for those who think none of our trio would start for any other team says it all.
Thanks for the detailed analysis. I suppose if the stars did align perfectly and pigs did fly, one of our QB's could start somewhere. LOL. Make it a great evening!
Is it not pathetic that our anticipated starter would only possibly start for a couple of other teams? By gawd I am so sick of our horrid QB situation. Edwards won't lead us anywhere except to yet more mediocricy.
Look, if you want a "warm welcome", perhaps you should start by not beginning a completely unoriginal thread in which you go on to contradict whatever point you were trying to make when you posted.
You are the Rob Johnson of the Trent Edwards bashers.
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Interesting attempted use of statistics going on in this thread. A little too much cherry picking for my tastes, though. There's a lot of dimwitted people around here that have no use for statistics (apparently unaware that their very lives depend on them every day) but the selective use of the data by the original poster is even worse.
The OP supports his argument that Lynch was underused around the endzone with data showing Lynch had only 19 carries in the redzone while Jackson had 29. Fair enough. That averages out to 1.8 redzone carries a game for Jackson and 1.5 redzone carries a game for Lynch (in only 13 games). The difference is 0.3 carries a game. Seems neglible to me. As an aside, we should all be disgusted that are top two running backs touched the ball so infrequently in the redzone last season.
But when you look a little closer it becomes apparent that you selected the only piece of data that supported your argument when there is plenty to refute it.
Instead of simply looking at the red zone, lets look at the opponents goal line to 9 yard line. After all, that is where the really tough yards are found and where guys with a "nose for the end zone" earn their reputations. In that zone, Lynch had 7 carries for 12 yards (1.7 ypc) and 1 TD (14.3%). He averaged 0.53 carries in this zone per game.
Jackson had 8 carries for 17 yards (2.1 ypc) and 2 TDs (25.0%). He averaged 0.50 carries in this zone per game. Jackson actually touched the ball in this zone ("close to the goal line") at a slightly lower rate than Lynch but performed better than Lynch when he did.
But this is an incredibly small sample size and once again we should be disgusted with how infrequently our running backs were given the ball near the goal line (for a variety of reasons, none of them good). So lets look at short yardage situations all over the field. On 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and 2 or less, Lynch carried the ball 9 times for a total of 9 yards (1.0 ypc) and 0 TD (0.0%). Jackson carried the ball 22 times for 70 yards (3.2 ypc) and 0 TD (0.0%). Lynch's average yards per carry on short yardage plays was absolutely pathetic!
The splits have a separate category for "3rd and Short" although I do not see a definition of "short." In that category, Lynch had 5 carries for 3 yards (0.4 carries per game in this situation for 0.6 ypc!!!) while Jackson had 7 carries for 16 yards (0.4 carries per game in this situation for 2.3 ypc).
The stats absolutely do not back up your claim. Lynch was absolutely pathetic in short yardage last year and near the goal line and despite that fact he was used at basically the same rate as Jackson. His size and previous performance indicate he should be better in the short yardage situations and near the goal line than Jackson. But he wasn't and given his character and work ethic, there is little evidence to show that he ever will be again. What exactly has Lynch done since last year's pathetic showing to show he should take some of Jackson (and now Spillers) playing time?
You cannot stop a crusade such as "TDs mark the better RB/TDs are all that matter" with your facts.
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"3rd option" = "Brown". So dirty!
Anyway, all 32 teams had the opportunity to take a flyer with a last round pick on Brown. Why would one of them be clamoring to pick him up off waivers now? What have they seen that they didn't see in April? If a guy like Brohm could clear waivers (certainly a better college QB than Brown), why wouldn't Levi?
I wouldn't have him take another snap.
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You can make money pushing toolbars that can't be seen? What a country!
What am I doing going to work every day?
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Well Dan, I never did say "Lienhart is so much better than Edwards" so there is no reason for me to respond. LOL. The fact that you have to scrounge around and point to the lowly Cards as a team that Edwards might be able to be a starter is hardly a ringing endorsement. Some friendly advice Dan, don't get the annoiting oil out for Trent just yet.
The lowly Cards???
Anyway....Dan's right. The title of your post, if you recall is "Would any of our QBs actually start for another team???" Now you are faulting him for mentioning the "lowly Cards" as a possibility that you obviously don't dismiss (so you must be in agreement). You say it's "hardly a rining endorsement", yet it clearly answers your question.
Some friendly advice: read your own post before answering the responses of others.
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I cant stand the throwbacks, go back to the Bilss 1989-1996 uniforms when they were winners..
This is the correct answer.
And who wears the dark unis at home? Are we Boise State?
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Never said TDs alone did determine the better back. But good backs score them
You're trying to give the impression that Jackson is Warrick Dunn and Marshawn was Mike Alstott. Simply not true. I watched every game last year and I saw nothing to support your stat-less claim. Why do I even remember? Because I used to scream at the TV that they SHOULD put in Lynch because he gets even tougher yards than Fred.
This is ALL YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING---for months! You are the "TDs are all that matters, re: RBs" Guy.
Wow.
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Maybin, other than the intentional grounding play, was driven to the ground routinely by opposing starters. He gets to the QB late and puts a hit on. Too much dancing around after plays he had no real impact on.
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Hi guys! I'm new here and am curious if you guys think that our current roster of QBs would actually start for any other teams. Please vote. Thanks guys. Looking forward to many interesting discussions regarding our Bills.
You should watch football. If you did, you would see that teams like Cleveland and Carolina (and maybe AZ and Oak) are in worse shape than we are at QB.
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Oh, you mean the same kind of false starts Demetrius Bell is getting? The same kind Ruben Brown used to get?
How much does Bell get per false start? He is probably at least $900,000 in front of Peters from last year alone.
We arent taking Wood and Nelson over Peters...We are taking Demetrius Bell or Jamon Meredith over Peters...Hence the reason our Offensive Line still blows donkey dick and there is not a single player CLOSE to Peters' talent. (And DONT say Eric Wood, because he is literally a Center who happens to be playing Guard...He has no skill to be a tackle and has never played as a tackle.)
SO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL TRYING TO COME UP WITH REASONS AS TO WHY JASON PETERS IS NOT A GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER...GIVE IT UP! OUR ORGANIZATION GOT RID OF ARGUABLY THE BEST PLAYER, CERTAINLY THE BEST O-LINEMAN, THE BUFFALO BILLS HAVE SEEN IN A DECADE! WE WERE UNABLE TO REPLACE HIM THEN, AND WE STILL ARE YET TO REPLACE HIM WITH SOMEONE EVEN CLOSE TO HIS SKILL LEVEL!
Yeah, we'll never be able to find another morbidly obese TE and stick him at LT--and then argue over whether he was elite or sucked.
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Let's hope Nelson's urine never gets switched with the other S. Neslon's.
QB Matt Leinart to Bills ??
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Actually, Anderson was behind Leinart until now. Also, Anderson was let go by Cleveland, the team with the worst QB roster in the league.
He was our best QB last year. He won 4 games, more than our starter. What is your point again?