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Mr. WEO

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  1. We all know last year T.O. was brought in not only because of his abilities but another huge part was to increase revenue for the Bills by selling tickets because of his presence on the team and merch sales like jersey's & such .

     

    So i started thinking, with Russ Brandon being a good sales person and knowing how to make money for the team as far as the Toronto series & all.

     

    Have any of you thought that there may have been some thought put into bringing Wang here from the financial side of things before the pick in the draft was made or was it solely because he was a good player .

     

    Because think about the jersey sales and financial possiblities in China ??

     

    I hate to think that way, but in today's world greed is a motivating factor for a lot of things & seeing as Wang was the first NFL player of Chinese decent --- could they have looked at what say -- Yau Ming brought to the NBA & thought HEY JUST MAYBE ????

     

    I for one hope that he was picked for his talent and will make our team a lot better years to come because of his ability's & not for financial gain . But i'm just sayin !!!

     

    Basketball has been played in China for decades. Yau was a star in China before he came to the the NBA. Doubt Chinese sales of his Rockets jersey add to much. Also, easy to assume that the majority of mainland Chinese have never heard of the NFL.

     

    If he was drafted as a marketing object, it is more likely because there are probably a billion dudes in upstate NY who would buy a "WANG" jersey--and still be snickering about it years later.

  2. Disagree. Yes, today's player salaries have skyrocketed beyond belief, but the fact is there is a market to support it. Keep buying your Sunday Ticket and you contribute to the high salaries. Back in Die Hard's day, those salaries were unheard of. These were just guys making a living like you or me -- they were not cashing in back in 1967.

    Of course it was different, much different, in Die Hard's day. But he is defending the current NFL athlete--and asking me to be sympathetic to the plight of these guys. That's ridiculous. Any sacrifice they are making (physically) they are being very well compensated for.

     

    This is entertainment. They are entertainers and everyone's a critic.

     

    Waddayagonnado? Ask any of these guys---beats working.

  3. Is Die Hard the same guy who got that vshare toolbar stuck on my computer??

     

    More likely he is leaving because of a beef he had with the Mods re: copywrite stuff (see his recent post history).

     

    Anyway...sorry, no sympathy here for the "proud, proud former college athletes". These pros are paid for those "4 years" more than most Americans will earn in a lifetime of actual hard work. Never forget they are playing a game for ridiculous money and adulation that is out of proportion to their contibution to society. They are amongst the most privileged citizens in the land. If they accept the adulation, they must accept the criticism that has accompanied all teams by fans since the beginning of organised sports. If a player can't handle the sometimes ill-informed or mean spirited postings of unsatisfied fans, well....who cares? Players come and go. The Bills and the team's fans will remain.

     

    Enough with the dramatic exit announcements already.

  4. You know, looking at his stats, I stand corrected - Anderson is also pretty bad.

     

    And yet, he was better than and will be starting over Leinart - why do we want Leinart again? Because we can have our own slightly older version of Sanchez?

    Actually, Anderson was behind Leinart until now. Also, Anderson was let go by Cleveland, the team with the worst QB roster in the league.

     

    Fitz is a decent 3rd string option and that is it. The guy is absolutely not good. Though admittedly I can't say I'd rather have Leinart in there than Fitz. But Fitz is just a terrible QB. He does have guts and it seems he has a level head - but he is a horrendous passer and should never be counted on even in a backup role.

    He was our best QB last year. He won 4 games, more than our starter. What is your point again?

  5. Aaron Rodgers and Ben Rothlesberger seem to do just fine, since they were the two most sacked QBs in the NFL and were among the highest rated passers too. Good QBs make plays, period.

    Those are two of the best QBs in the League. We all know that TE isn't on that same level. Relax, it was game preseason game 1.

     

    Jeezus.

     

    Rothlesberger gets sacked because of Rothlesberger.

     

    Rodgers accrued all those sacks in the first half of the season last year. Once his top Ts were back I believe he was sacked only 10 times in the second half of the year (+/- a game or two.)

    Huh??? That's a unique point of view.

  6. I am not picking on anybody. I am just asking a question and stating some fact. I will also ask who is responsible for teaching the players what is necessary to play a certain position or scheme? The coach for that particular aspect of the game not the peanut vendor….

    What fact are you refering to?

     

    These?:

     

    "I am just not very comfortable with what I saw"

     

    "I just don’t have a good feeling about SP…."

     

    "I sure hope I am wrong"

     

    And what, exactly is "SP"?

  7. There's a lot to this list I don't like. Jason Campbell and Matt Cassell ahead of Byron Leftwich? Don't think so. Cassell should be last on this list. Edwards may not be too much higher than Clayton has him slated, but I don't see him being way down at 31. For the time being at least, he should certainly be ahead of Kevin Kolb who still hasn't played enough to give a thumbs up or down.

    That's the first thing that catches your eye??

     

    Leftwich is ranked way too high. At this point, he's well below Edwards.

     

    Delhomme is last, where he belongs.

  8. Keep Fitz as a vet and teacher? That's funny, I thought the Bills need a back up quarterback, not Obi Won Kanobe. In my humble opinion, Fitz should be cut by tomorrow and allowed to catch on with another team. Brohm and Brown are fine as back ups / #3's. They are both young and have more upside then Fitzy, who by the way is only about 26 or 27 himself, but has zero upside beyond what he is, a career number two.

     

    Because things are so damned tentative with Edwards being the starter, Fitzy is simply not good enough to "take over as a number one" half way through the season. Brohm should absolutely be the back up this season, because Fitz had his chance to be the starter on a pretty damn good offense in Cinti a couple years ago when Palmer went down, and he sucked. Brohm deserves a chance to be a second string one play away from starter, to see how he does. And Levi? Who knows, but the kid is just a 7th round rookie.

    Fitz WAS our starter last year--for half the season and won 4 games. So you think Brohm, who has done nothing, is a better option at backup, right now, than Fitz? You would make him #2 just "to see how he does" if TE goes down?

     

    Yeah, OK.

  9. Long overdue & the key to keeping the team in Western New York. A way needs to be found to get this done. I don't care if it's built in Niagara, just build the darn thing. Thoughts?

     

    I think it's going to happen right after they complete the stadium in LA.....

     

    You sound like an architect. Or else like someone who is used to spending other people's money. Why does the stadium need to "stay somewhat contemporary?"

     

    To the OP - so you are saying that the new owner MUST take on debt. Wrong answer - no debt load is one of the reasons why this team, in this market, is still making money.

    Actually, the new owner will be taking on massive debt regardless. Unless it's the old man's wife. So the new owner will struggle to make a dime for many years.

  10. Because the NFL owns the copyright and can distribute it as it sees fit. If you don't subscribe to HBO, should you be able to watch their programming because it's on in your neighbor's house?

    If my naeighbor invites me and 20 people over to watch a fight on HBO, are we committing an illegal viewing? Are you saying we should pay HBO for the viewing? It certainly seems you believe so.

     

    It's not your property to make that determination with.

     

    If you're a band with a song, do you want some guy in California to say, "I can buy the song if I want but why should I when I can get it for free?" When you do that, and so many here do that I know I'm talking to a wall, you hurt the artist.

    If instead of buying it, I "get it for free" from the radio and then I tape the song and put it and others on a mix tape as a gift to someone, is the recipient of the gift tape "illegally" listening to the music?

     

    I can't imagine anyone could trick themselves into thinking watching a online feed of a copyrighted telecast was legal, but I hear what you are saying :)

  11. What if the "streamer" paid for the game and put it up on the internet for anyone to view, and charged nothing? Why is it "illegal" to watch? If I go to the bar and sit there and watch the game that someone else paid for--is that much different? What if it was put up (illegally) on youtube---is it "illegal" for me to watch it?

     

     

    Of course it's not.

     

    I don't remember the moral crisis surrounding this topic last season.

  12. None of them would start for Arizona. Nuff said.[/b] LOL.

     

     

    And our QBs have looked sensational this preseason???! LOL. The fact that my poll is a landslide thus far for those who think none of our trio would start for any other team says it all.

     

     

    Thanks for the detailed analysis. I suppose if the stars did align perfectly and pigs did fly, one of our QB's could start somewhere. LOL. Make it a great evening!

     

     

    Is it not pathetic that our anticipated starter would only possibly start for a couple of other teams? By gawd I am so sick of our horrid QB situation. Edwards won't lead us anywhere except to yet more mediocricy.

    Look, if you want a "warm welcome", perhaps you should start by not beginning a completely unoriginal thread in which you go on to contradict whatever point you were trying to make when you posted.

     

    You are the Rob Johnson of the Trent Edwards bashers.

  13. Interesting attempted use of statistics going on in this thread. A little too much cherry picking for my tastes, though. There's a lot of dimwitted people around here that have no use for statistics (apparently unaware that their very lives depend on them every day) but the selective use of the data by the original poster is even worse.

     

    The OP supports his argument that Lynch was underused around the endzone with data showing Lynch had only 19 carries in the redzone while Jackson had 29. Fair enough. That averages out to 1.8 redzone carries a game for Jackson and 1.5 redzone carries a game for Lynch (in only 13 games). The difference is 0.3 carries a game. Seems neglible to me. As an aside, we should all be disgusted that are top two running backs touched the ball so infrequently in the redzone last season.

     

    But when you look a little closer it becomes apparent that you selected the only piece of data that supported your argument when there is plenty to refute it.

     

    Instead of simply looking at the red zone, lets look at the opponents goal line to 9 yard line. After all, that is where the really tough yards are found and where guys with a "nose for the end zone" earn their reputations. In that zone, Lynch had 7 carries for 12 yards (1.7 ypc) and 1 TD (14.3%). He averaged 0.53 carries in this zone per game.

     

    Jackson had 8 carries for 17 yards (2.1 ypc) and 2 TDs (25.0%). He averaged 0.50 carries in this zone per game. Jackson actually touched the ball in this zone ("close to the goal line") at a slightly lower rate than Lynch but performed better than Lynch when he did.

     

    But this is an incredibly small sample size and once again we should be disgusted with how infrequently our running backs were given the ball near the goal line (for a variety of reasons, none of them good). So lets look at short yardage situations all over the field. On 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and 2 or less, Lynch carried the ball 9 times for a total of 9 yards (1.0 ypc) and 0 TD (0.0%). Jackson carried the ball 22 times for 70 yards (3.2 ypc) and 0 TD (0.0%). Lynch's average yards per carry on short yardage plays was absolutely pathetic!

     

    The splits have a separate category for "3rd and Short" although I do not see a definition of "short." In that category, Lynch had 5 carries for 3 yards (0.4 carries per game in this situation for 0.6 ypc!!!) while Jackson had 7 carries for 16 yards (0.4 carries per game in this situation for 2.3 ypc).

     

    The stats absolutely do not back up your claim. Lynch was absolutely pathetic in short yardage last year and near the goal line and despite that fact he was used at basically the same rate as Jackson. His size and previous performance indicate he should be better in the short yardage situations and near the goal line than Jackson. But he wasn't and given his character and work ethic, there is little evidence to show that he ever will be again. What exactly has Lynch done since last year's pathetic showing to show he should take some of Jackson (and now Spillers) playing time?

    You cannot stop a crusade such as "TDs mark the better RB/TDs are all that matter" with your facts.

  14. "3rd option" = "Brown". So dirty!

     

    Anyway, all 32 teams had the opportunity to take a flyer with a last round pick on Brown. Why would one of them be clamoring to pick him up off waivers now? What have they seen that they didn't see in April? If a guy like Brohm could clear waivers (certainly a better college QB than Brown), why wouldn't Levi?

     

    I wouldn't have him take another snap.

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