Mr. WEO

took him all night to get back to me but he did say "hopefully"...

Dud? nah. Weapon?--not in Buffalo. 500 more yards in 29 more catches. They really aren't the same type of player.

the year after they lost the SB, their D improved from 17th in points given up to 6th. the year they lost the SB they were 26th against the pass. The following year they were 23rd.

Knox was drafted in the 3rd....despite catching only 39 passes in 3 seasons at Ol Miss. The Bills need to find a completely new way to scout and draft rookie pass catchers...as well as veterans. Flailing every off-season

La Porta, drafted behind Kincaid, is a straight up weapon. So is another 1st rounder--Bowers. First Knox, now Kincaid. oof...

He's a checkdown receiver, that's it. Run 3 steps, turn, catch, run 3 more steps, go down.

IT WAS ME!!! jeez...

I would too. But after that he went down with that ship.

this is a novel take

with the 7th ranked Offense...plus the good fortune of having to get past the Titans and the Raiders before the Chiefs. The Defense improved to 6th in scoring in 2022, then cratered. Compare this to the Bills: #1 and #2 Defense 2021/2022. After that McD pushed Frazier into the easy chair and took over.

They showed they can get to the SB with a lights out and mediocre D. Just tell us who they could/should have gotten instead of signing both Chase and Higgins. Not "all the free agents" (not what we are talking about here)--pick a game changer. You seem to have someone in mind, why not tell us. he ran that D into the ground. McD would have dumped him just the same--in a heartbeat.

yeah go ahead--first list all the stars they lost on D after 2022 and then list all of the game changers they could have had this offseason. Mediocre Defense stepped up. It can happen again.

well, Hendrickson is already on the roster and they are about to extend him, per reports. So...who else? Who on Defense did they not sign that would have the same overall impact that Higgins or Chase would have?

It's not like they canned that entire mediocre Defense 2 years ago after back to back AFCC games and a SB.... What if they didn't pay both of these guys? What single Defensive player did they not pay for (instead of re-signing Higgins that would have had a major impact on their playoff hopes? Eagles won a SB in 2022, got bounced in the WC in 2024 and won again in 2024. Their Defesne was 8th , 30th, and 2nd over that span. How did they go from 30th to 2nd in one year? Adding Zach Baun?? nah.

measuring a roster by contests where others vote on the players has obvious limitations.

they went to the big dance with a mediocre defense. now they can focus on a cheaper rebuild of the Defense through the draft. I think it's a lot easier to draft their way back into the middle of the pack Defense than Offense. many posters here want this FA or that and say (correctly) "the cap keeps going higher". The cap is rising the same amount for the Bengals. If, for example, the Bills paid for Chase and Higgins I would be jumping for joy---everyone would. No one would care that Beane is stuffing the D with aging retreads or 1 year guys or guys with PED issues.

It wasn't in their SB season. So they should let Chase or Higgins play elsewhere so they can pick up...who? Bosa? Miller? Jordan Philips? A PED guy?

Not sure---you brought it up. But starting mediocre guys you signed because you didn't sign better ones isn't "coaching up", i bet. The difference with Belichick was 6 rings with a constant roster churn. And when he was done with them, he didn't bring them back at another time. That's coaching....

they drafted them and now are paying them

rostering a series of backups who "aren't complete disasters" isn't "coaching up the CB position"...

who were the best guys they lost after the SB year?

if he's just for camp then then sign an UDFA to take those snaps.

Well if any elite starter goes down, no amount of linemen on either side of the ball are going to win games for a team. I don't disagree that you need better guys in the trenches. But the Bengals are not the Eagles, where they have essentially abandoned the passing game because of one RB.