Magox
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I hate it!!
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I believe he runs in the 4.6s.
You place way too much importance on speed. so by your way of evaulating players, you would look at speed first. Great!!
That means you would of picked Vernon Davis with the #6 overall pick and would'nt of even considered Carlson for an early round pick.
Speed no doubt is an element of the game, but being a football player is a more important element of the game. Pettigrew is a Football Player. Vernon Davis is an athlete who isn't a football player.
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this move would baffle me
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I've been saying all along, that I wouldn't be upset at all with Pettigrew being our overall number #11. He to me seems like a sure thing. You know for sure that you are going to get a well above average blocker, and that at worst case an average recieving blocker, at worst. I think by making this pick, if it turns out this way, we will ensure us of having that Tight End that we so desperately need. He will no doubt be our best TE that we have had in a long time and maybe ever.
This silly argument that I always see here on this message board, criticizing picking a center or TE this early is a ridiculous argument. It tells me that these same people who make these arguments have been listening too much to the draft "gurus" or "experts". This argument never made sense to me. Every position on the offensive and defensive side of the ball is important. I'd much rather pick a very good TE with a 1st round pick then pick up a decent DE with my 1st round pick. If you've noticed, the positions that were considered "less" important like guard for instance are now starting to get paid much more comprable pay as the Tackle position. WHich leads me to believe that NFL teams are starting to realize that just about every position in Football is about as important as the next.
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He will never choose Buffalo, even if we offer the most money.
That is such a populist statement. He will go to who ever offers him the most.
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Besides the legal charges... What do you think would be appropriate as far as punishment to Marshawn Lynch from the NFL league office? Do you feel there should be no suspension? A one or two game suspension? A Four game suspension or even a full year suspension for the three misdemeanors?
What would be the best way to handle this situation from the leagues point of view...What would be the best for Marshawn?
Does Marshawn need a wake up call?
don't you think you should wait for all the details to come out before you rush to judgment?
Seems like the logical thing to me.
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They say we offered a substantial contract to Greer. I'm happy that we are least trying to keep him. The $$ is to much to pass up, especially with the latest humongous signings of db's recently.
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Oh well!!
I guess that leaves Bertrand Berry or the draft
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I would be all for making him the highest paid lineman on the team but it's not that simple. This contract could be near twelve million a year for a guy that has only had one stellar season and has had some injury issues.
And yes he does have to honor his contract. That's what a contract is. This guy was undrafted and the Bills gave him a shot and an extension. If he wanted it he would have came out this past season and played his ass off for it.
This guy gave his team the silent treatment when he wanted a new contract. If you were the 6th highest paid employee in your office would you not show up to work and make your boss figure it out? Or would you request a raise and keep showing him how valuable you are?
And I'm so sick of hearing about these guys securing their future. This guy is a millionaire. He's not collecting food stamps anytime soon.
I hear what your saying, but that is'nt how the real NFL world works.
It is unreasonable for him to play out 3 more years of his contract, being SEVERELY underpaid. He is a big, probably not that bright of a football player, and his last agent made a HUGE mistake by havng him sign an undervalued contract. Please, enough of the Bills were "generous" and gave him an extension talk. They were not generous, they got a STEAL out of it.
He did the right thing. He fired his agent and hired one of the best in the business. Do you really believe that it was his idea to sit out the training camp? Of course not, it was his superstar Agent.
Please, let's not pretend to say that we would behave like good little boyscouts and be not even in the top 5 on your team in pay at a position similar to yours without you having any beef. Think about it, people with his skill set are getting payed %300 -%500 more pay than he is, and heis suppose to just sit there and accept it for the next three years. I don't think so. He could get injured and there goes his future big contract,just because he was a good little boy scout..
Your question about what would I do? If My boss was benefiting off of me, and I knew that he knew that, and I saw that there were many other people inferior to me, that brought the company less money in than I did, and were getting payed as much as %150 more than me, and he wasn't willing to work out a deal with me, and jerking me around, then HELL YA!! I would play hard ball. Because if he doesn't pay me my fair value, then I will go to a company that values me, and shows me that they value me by paying me fair value.
As far as you being sick of "these" guys securing their future. That is an argumnt that doesn't fly with me or the restof the NFL. DOn't be counting his chips, this is what the NFL pays their players. Everything is about fair pay, and what fair market value is. Just because he has Millions doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to get paid fair value, and if fair value is Millions more, then so be it.
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Yeah. that'll teach him.......
.......that there's nothing he can do that can't be dropped down to a misdemeanor.
Hit n' runs, smokin' blunz, loaded guns------I'M MARSHAWN LYNCH!
before you crucify and judge him like half of the rest of the board, don't you think we should get all the details first.
You wouln't want to be put in the same category as a Nancy Grace would you?
All those prosecutors on tv are too extreme. According to them you would think that no one is in this world is innocent
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About Bryan Scott.
I'm very impressed with his play. What I've seen of him, he seems to cover those big Tight ends really well. He is a good tackler and seemed to make lots of tackle behind the line of scrimmage.
I'd like to see him be the starter at SS next year, and see what Donte with a full season do at FS. Hopefully he can double his career int total this season
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I don't care what any of you Peters bashers say. He is the 6th highest paid lineman on the team and he is the best player on the team. hmmmm
doesn't make sense. The Bills made a huge mistake letting this happen. They should of approached after the 2007 season, gave him a fair contract, and none of this would of ever of been an issue.
All the people who say,"he signed the contract, he has to play through it" really don't understand too much how the NFL works.
If you worked for a company, and you knew that you were the most valuable employee for the company, and there were 6 other guys that held a similar position that you hold and were getting paid more than you. You would do something about it, and if not, then in my view your a spineless wimp who doesn't know how to ask for what is rightfully yours. Sure you "honored" your contract, and fans will respect that, but that doesn't secure your future. The pay does.
The Bills should of restructured his contract, and they did not have the forsight to do so, and as a result we had a player that was a malcontent, and we got a shotty performance from him, by his standards.
So chris Brown, was right on about the comparison regarding the Peters Gross comparison.
Give me a break. Gross 4x higher pay. Thats Insane!
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The only Way Vick will ever be an asset to a team is not as a full time qb, but as a Wild Cat/situational qb.
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What would you be willing to pay for him?
It's questionable how much of an upgrade he'd be.
$2 Million a year
and yes it wouldnt be a tremendous upgrade.
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can you say
$$KA CHING!!!!$$
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If Pettigrew ran in the 4.4's, I think there is little doubt that NFL team's will be salivating to have this player. Having said that, I see him running in the 4.6's, which still would be an excellent time for a player of his size.
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There's certainly no time line to handle roster cuts, but it's surprising that some of TSW's favorites remain on the team eating up potentially valuable cap space.
While I won't go as far as saying Kelsay should be cut, his contract should be renegotiated for the final two years.
I'm still in amazement that Robert Royal and John McCargo are still on this team. Cutting them would provide an additional 4M in cap space. There are other lesser names occupying roster space, but cutting them would not be substantial moves.
But I suppose these are the players the front office likes having around. Perhaps they'll still be cut, but as free agency approaches, it's amazing that after their performance in 08 something isn't done before that time.
I guess if you can keep quite possibly one of the worst coaches in the NFL that you don't want to pay players not to play either.
I agree that we should restucture Kelsay's contract. I believe he would do it. I also agree that we should cut Royal and McCargo, but as some other posters have mentioned. There is no rush to do it just yet.
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As BADOL has pointed out, we're worried about spending 5M more than we'd like on Greer for a one year franchise tender. But we're not concerned when Peerless Price gets 4 yrs and 10M, Robert Royal and the same deal, Larry Tripplett and his 5 yr 18.5M deal, or Melvin Fowler for 3 yrs and 7M.
Not parlaying assets into receivables is why this franchise is suffering, as people like Tim Graham have pointed out.
Nine seasons in a row without the playoffs. It's time to demand some accoutability from the front office. This is one example of how the team could have been improved. But the minimal risk is holding people back.
I understand what your saying, but we can't justify future moves based on prior bad decisions. Those decisions were made. The past is the past, and hopefully the people in charge will learn from those mistakes. Those past decisions to me, in my opinion, don't justify making another bad decision by over paying a good player by $4 to 5 Million a year. Just because he's been good for us doesn't mean you overpay him.
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2 million. 1998 called and you still could not get Vilma signed for 2 million a year... And Magox. I have a job for you but only if you will work for 12,000 a year anything more and my money would be spent better elsewhere.
Again. Do the people on this board still think that spending the Bills cap money has an impact on your personal credit score? Good Lord..
haha
that was my bad sorry.
I meant $2 Million a year more
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I'm not talking about keeping him. I think I've been quite clear and in the thread about Kelvin Hayden that the idea is:
TAG AND THEN TRADE HIM.
There are multiple teams in need of a solid cover CB with plenty of cap room. Teams like KC, TB, MIA, DET, and SF have room to use for a CB and 25M+ to spend. After today, there are three fewer options in UFA this year now that Dunta Robinson, Nnamdi Asomugha, and Dunta Robinson are unavailable. The Giants also placed a 2nd round tender on one of their CB's today.
Every year the board underestimates how much players get in UFA. We may think collectively that 9.9M is too much for Greer, and it is. But the market, not fan opinion, dictates how much is spent on these guys. No one ever thought Nate Clements would get the deal he did. No one thought Bob Sanders would get the contract he did. Or Adalius Thomas. And no one around here saw the Bills signing about the 4th best guard in UFA for 49M over 7 years.
Be prepared to be surprised when Greer signs a deal somewhere around 35-40M over 5-6 years after 2/27. Tagging and trading won't be that bad of an idea after he moves on to greener pastures.
I just believe it is too big of a risk to assume that if we tag him that someone will want to trade for him. I think the risk is overpaying by about $4-5 Million a year. For $4-5 Million a year we could pick up a Crowell and a Kitna. We could Sign Peters, that would be about the difference of what he is getting payed now. We could probably sign a Vilma for close to that amount. There is a lot we can do with that money.
To me, unless the Bills Brass had a strong inclination that we could get a trade for him, the risk to me out weighs the retention of Greer through tagging him. Let's just make him a decent multiyear contract, 5 year $25Million with about $13Million Gauranteed. That's a lot of cash to pass up, especially for someone who never made anywhere near that sort of money. He may just stay.
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2 game suspension then it will be over.
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I just checked with Expedia, with US airways we can get him here for $122.00. How much are you willing to throw in? I got $5 on it.
On a more serious note. I wouldn't be upset if we brought in Vilma, he would definitely be an upgrade of what we have had, and probably an upgrade over Crowell. My concern is how much he would cost. If it only cost less than $2Million a year less than Crowell, then I think it would be worth it, if not, then I think the money could be spent more wisely elsewhere.
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He'd be a very good pick up. Lots of experience, good head on his shoulders and he won't lose games for you. Remember people, we are looking for a backup, so don't expect to get some sort of super human qb, and for those who say, let's look for the next Brady or lightning in a bottle approach. Do you have any idea what the odd's are that you can find a qb like this. I can tell you it's less than %5. So if we go with this wreckless approach and HOPE to find this qb, what will most likely happen is that when given the opportunity this qb will have no business in playing in the game when called upon, won't be prepared and ultimately won't be the qb that we were expecting.
So that idea, is not a good one. The right approach is someone who will step in and not lose the game for you. Kitna fits the tee perfect.
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Every team in this league could use a bunch of Kyle Williams on their team. Good Solid Player
Vernon Carey
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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6 years $50 Million would be fair. Lock him up!!