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For sure, I don't doubt for a minute that the "contrary science" is largely funded by the oil groups. I guess my point is that I believe that when studies are conducted in virtually any field, all too often, I think, there is a predetermined conclusion that scientists are looking to find and that with enough data points you can put them together to paint a conclusion that fits their views. Its just difficult to know what truly is the case. Like I said, I guess man has contributed some to global warming but I also believe that it has been vastly overstated. I could be wrong, I really don't know.

Franz, you seem like a good dude. Just a general rule of thumb, at least for myself, don't try to go in depth on a position if you aren't either a) well-versed on the subject and/or b) you aren't willing to substantively defend it. And no, posting a link without your explanation isn't substantively defending it. Posters here that have disagreed with one another can respect others with differing views if that poster is willing to make a logical cogent case.

Let's hope for the sake of not becoming a nativistic, nationalist "far right" party that Robby's faction loses out.

Look at you, you're becoming unhinged. Take your shtick to the Arizona Border Recon, you'd fit right in.

I would say it's more romanticism than anything else.

TYTT had this to say about Trump: So I guess that makes him a "blowhard' who adopts language of the left? I mean you did say Listen, you've outed yourself to be what you are. You whined to everyone to take it easy on the guy who advocated the extermination of illegal immigrants. You propped up a study to imply that illegal immigrants are more violent than others but dismissed the overwhelming amount of studies that show otherwise. You believe that the Civil war was not a good thing and that you believe that Lincoln had no intention of good will for blacks. At least TYTT's and Firechan's argument was based on the constitutionality of it, but you went on a whole another direction. You consistently come to Trump's defense when what he has said is indefensible with anyone viewing this with clear eyes, and you've yet to acknowledge that. And to boot, you just attempted to make a racially charged pejorative by calling me "Alejandro". You're a sad pathetic person.

Thanks for showing us your true colors.

Sorry, the only one here with a bleeding taco is you, and Stop being such a pansy who gets so easily offended when people call out the xenophobes. And everything you just said, applies to you, not me. Look in the mirror, hypocrite.

No, you are wrong about Rubio. Remember, I'm a numbers guy who relies on data to come to my conclusions? Look through the polling data, When asked who would you definitely not vote for from GOP voters. Rubio's number is only 6%, whereas Trump's is 28%. Rubio's is the second lowest on the entire list. Go to page 8. Within the GOP, Rubio has Not only the highest out of all the candidates favorability rating at 72% out of all the candidates. But he has the lowest unfavorability rating at 3%. Dude, that's a + 69 and that is including 25% of Republicans who don't even know who he is. If he had the name recognition of Trump or Hillary we'd be talking about at least +80. By the way, that is even better than Hillary. Same page, look at the general electorate's view of him of favorability. He has the highest favorability of all the GOP and stands at +14. Only one person has a higher net favorability rating, and that's Carson. But of course the difference is that Rubio is much more known than Carson. Having said that, whether you like Carson or not, people do like him. I'm a bit skeptical of his viability but your dismissal of Rubio is not grounded by facts.

I hope you are right B-man. A month ago I would have thought it to be laughable, but it looks increasingly likely that he will win the first few states. His support from his fans is something fierce. I haven't seen this much devotion for a candidate since Obama. Of course the big difference between Obama's support to Trump's is that his net is much larger, but they are equally as deep.

So much irony to sift through between Ozy and Rob's posts, it's just too easy. Ozy, says I take the reductive approach to politics by misstating that I implied that conservatives have to pander to Latino's to win their vote, yet in the very same post advocates the reductive approach of advocating a white only voter strategy!

You see, that's the problem with you and others. You need to learn how to comprehend things that you read rather than just interpreting them the way you see fit. I never said that you have to win the Latino vote to win. Nope, never said that. What I said and implied is that you have to have a strategy and philosophy that is inclusive. Stick to your principles, push for stricter border security, policies that punish employers for hiring illegals etc. but at the same time, make a concerted outreach to Latinos and let them know of all the benefits of conservatism, much like the LIBRE initiative from the Koch Brothers. When you start calling the illegal immigrants rapists and murderers and that you "suppose" some are good people. Yeah, that's a big !@#$ you, which is Trump's and his followers right to pursue. On the other hand, the Latin community in turn is sending an even bigger !@#$ you back to him, and rightfully so. I get it, you are advocating for a white voter strategy. Is it possible that this election he could win with a white person voter strategy? Sure, but highly unlikely. But I can tell you this, the identity politics that you advocate for is a long-term loser.

According to Rob's logic, what you just said makes you a blowhard. TTYT is right, there are nearly as many Repubs that wouldn't vote for him as those that would. What differentiates him from the others more so than anything else is the dying devotion his followers have for him. They are passionate about him, no matter what he says or how many times he's flopped, they don't care. He has successfully managed to draw more support then just the nativist, xenophobe crowd. With his brash non pc attitude, that has drawn more people add that with his nationalistic approach vs. China, that is also appealing to the anxiety filled people who know that we've lost many manufacturing jobs overseas. If Trump can be lucky enough to have 4-5 people stay in this race for a very long time, then he could win the nomination. If this race becomes a 2-3 person contest after the first 10 states, then I believe he loses.

Case in point.

Sorry If I discount the opinion of someone who was whining about others being a "little tough" on someone who advocated the extermination of all the illegal immigrants. This speaks volumes to who you are. And stop being such a little kitty with your faux outrage over people being called xenophobes. I don't care that you are one of those people who get so easily offended, and I'm not going to continue to keep giving you examples of Trump's xenophobia and nativism, if you aren't smart enough to retain what was previously communicated to you or won't even "bother to read through" previous posts, then that's on you. And ironic that you made reference to IQ's, the only one catering to low IQ folks is your hero, Trump.

I have to believe that a lot of the "science" that is taking place on the effects of man made global warming is "supportive" science, meaning that the scientists already have a conclusion that they want to find and with so many data points to sift through they can concoct an explanation to support their claims. We see this in basically all industries, where you have sponsored scientists who are paid for by certain corporations to support their theories. I'm not saying that man has or hasn't contributed to this warming pattern that we have seen, but based on my limited knowledge on the matter, I do know that the earth has gone through many forms of climate change through out its history. And I do know that there is an agenda to place additional forms of taxation and wealth distribution schemes being offered as panacea's to Climate change. Naturally, people are skeptical. To be honest, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, that yes there could be some effect from humans contributing to this but that the effects are overstated and exaggerated.

Win or lose, the email and taking money from foreign governments scandal is going to plague her until the campaign ends.

On a side note. http://www.capitalnewyork.com/node/8575489 This is a republican leaning business group that is largely comprised of Cubans. Even many of the republican Latinos see Trumps comments, the people he has aligned himself with and his proposed policies for what they are. Even my Cuban friends here in Miami that tend to vote GOP are all aligned against him and when Trumps name is mentioned hes always the butt of a joke. If you are the GOP nominee, you have to decisively win the Cuban vote in order to win Florida. Romney last election according to exit polls barely won the Cuban vote, which typically vote GOP at about a 70% clip. If Romney had won what the GOP typically wins, he'd had won Florida. Not only would Trump not win the Cuban vote, but he'd be lucky to win 35%. If Florida goes down, the. that means a Democrat is back in the White House. Oh, and on a non related note, Here is Palin's interview with Trump. For your viewing pleasure.

Anyone who doesn't see Trump's actions as xenophobic is a !@#$ing moron!! And Trumps supporters don't speak well for white people.

How I helped Todd Akin win She absolutely did have something to do with the outcome. I remember this all too well, well before I ever read this article. Akin was lagging big time, third place. Claire spent more money on his campaign in ads for Akin in the last two weeks than Akin did for his entire primary campaign.

Bernie Sanders appears to be pretty authentic and that's what people like about him. Plus he talks about giving free stuff and let's face it, about half the population like the free ****. But, his policy proposals aren't grounded in reality for this country, I mean I'm sure sure he'd make a good prime minister of Denmark, but as a country we aren't quite there yet. Of course that could change, if the GOP becomes a dissolved party and transforms itself to a "far right" party, that abandons economic "conservative" principles and becomes infatuated with immigration, nationalism etc much like we see across Europe, then we'll probably get there in short order. Which obviously would be disastrous. I shudder to think of the possibilities of what would happen to U.S corporations and small businesses not to mention U.S debt if Bernie had his way.

You very well may be right. Either way, it worked out better than Ramos could have ever of hoped. Also, I don't think I've seen the intensity of the anti Trump FB memes as high as I've seen from Latinos then I am seeing right now. It's a fever pitch. Even my non political friends from South America.

This works out well for Trump in the primary as he gains support and works out even better for Ramos in that he virtually guarantees that Trumps support with Latinos will be the lowest in U.S. History if Trump were to Win the nomination which essentially means Trump would lose the election. People have to keep in mind, Ramos above all else is an activist. His goal is to protect his constituencies special interests. He couldn't have scripted a better outcome. He gets Trump to tell him to "go back to Univision ". (Which was the jackpot for Ramos in that it appears that implied Go back to Mexico), then Trump gets his security to forcibly remove him which symbolized deportation. If you hear Ozy or Laura Ingrahm, Ann Coulter, Jesse Waters and all his cult like supporters in the comments section, that's how they viewed it as well and cheered it on. And of course that's how it was viewed through Univision and the rest of the Latino media. I'm not gonna say that Ramos laid the trap and that Trump fell in it, I think it was more luck than anything else for Ramos. But he got what wanted. Those. 15 seconds are like gold for what he wants to achieve.

Oh, they know each other well. Trump previously received a letter from Ramos asking Trump to appear on his network for an interview, Trump feeling scorned because of a previous comparison with someone else that implied that he was a racist from Ramos, published Ramos phone number on his Twitter acct.

Yeah, but you have Rainbows and Unicorns on your side. Take the bet.