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Unfortunately, they both came out as winners. Without doubt, Trump's followers were reminded yet again why they love him. While Ramos was able to show his audience with comments such as "Go back to Univision" which was interpreted as go back to Mexico and seeing him kicked out (deported) by Trump his antipathy towards Latino's. As someone who lives in Miami, I can tell you that this is being blasted throughout the local channels and every bit of it is casting Trump as the villain. Trump was at -51% favorability with latino's, expect that to go down even further. And with that sort of dislike with Latino's, if he did happen to get the GOP nomination, you can't win with those numbers in many of the swing states. Ramos and Trump both achieved what they could have wanted out of the mixup.

Wasn't referring to any existent proposals, just responding to Gator's comment that he was in favor of granting citizenship.

I use to, but not anymore. I have come to the conclusion that rewarding illegal behavior with citizenship is a bridge too far for me walk. I know of many friends of mine who have tried to go through the onerous process of trying to get a visa and ultimately a legal status to get and stay here. And all too often they are unable to obtain this legal status. Rewarding people who came here illegally not just with legal status, but taking it to the next level, citizenship is wholly unfair. Since they are already here, we can't break up the families and rip them from their communities and ship them home as much as Trump's supporters would love to see. But that doesn't mean we give them the rights to become citizens, legal status of residency is more than fair.

Haven't really thought about it. And don't try your jedi mind tricks with me, mr.

Any form of taxation can be argued as a form of redistribution. And it was partly a Repub idea, and a bad one at that. I've always been a proponent of incentives rather than punitive forms of taxation to change behavior, with the exception of matters related to health.

Pardon me if I don't take anything serious from a website called Marco Rubio amnesty man. I live in south Florida and I can tell you that I have never once heard Rubio referred to as Little Mel. And I have no doubt that kicking out the burrito eating beaner played well with you guys.

Rubio stands a better chance at getting more people in total to turn out to vote for him. Every single view he has is about as conservative as Cruz's other than immigration. Rubio's views on immigration are inline with what the majority of the American public wants, which NOW he supports border security first and then a pathway to legal status. He is the best bet.

He's more electable than Trump, that's for sure. I'd be interested in seeing some head to head match ups vs Hillary. I fear that he wears his religion on his sleeves too much to be electable in a general election. I could be wrong, he makes good arguments but none the less, much of the electorate gets turned off by this.

You think they would treat Trump better than Hillary? C'mon now.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm dumbfounded of the undying devotion his followers have for Trump. I read the comments section of articles often to try to get a gauge of things. I will say this, this is the first time I've seen Trump's supporters kind of show anything bordering on criticism, regarding this war with FOX. I just hope that Kelly continues to show things that sheds a true light on his positions. It's important that people understand them and not allow him to just get away with the things he says. The mainstream media, in all honesty has really given him a pass. Yes, there has been criticism, but it's sort of like when Joe Biden says something, they shrug and chuckle it off as "there goes Uncle Joe again". Same with Trump, they give him a pass. You and I both know that ends once it becomes a two person race. If he were to manage to win the nomination, there would be no more passes. The press would turn on him in a big way.

Buzz off. Not interested in talking to a partisan putz . You aren't a serious person.

The war between Ailes and Trump is back on again. Looks like Kelly is getting a lot of support from her colleagues.

You know, when I saw that, I was thinking that in any normal setting, someone would look at that and roll their eyes and think to themselves, "what a poor dumbass". But, he knows the base of his supporters. And for the base of his supporters, it was another "YAAAAAAA!!!!! Tell that burrito eating maggot how it is! YAAAAA!"

She is suffering the consequences, for the first time I feel that she has a real distinct possibility of losing the primaries. She is losing even in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan by 5+ points vs the top tier GOP candidates. That is bad if you are a Democrat. On the flip side, every single day that passes, Trump has gained strength and he is the only major candidate that is losing vs. Hillary in these very same polls. At this stage, my guess is they will do the same thing Claire Mccaskill did in MO. She didn't want to go up against the establishment candidate, she was being beaten by around 10 points on average. So they mettled in the primaries, and they actually ran ads for Todd Akin. Remember him? And Claire was able to help tip the scales just enough for Akin to win, and then of course she beat him in a conservative state like MO. But Hillary is looking weak.

Jeb is not a good politician, not right now he isn't anyway. Mitt Romney wasn't a good politician either even though I substantively agree with both of these guys on many issues. But in order to win, you usually have to be a good politician/salesmen and Jeb doesn't look like he has what it takes. I mean, I have little doubt that if he were to be paired up one on one vs Trump he'd win, but that's not how it works. It appears to me that Trump as much as I hate to admit it, Jeb, Rubio and Cruz are going to be around for a very long time. That's not to say that others won't just that these four I see as lock ins to be here late into the process. With all the polls coming out that match up against Hillary, Rubio matches up the best, then Jeb, then Walker. Even though Walker I think has looked really bad as of late. Here is a matchup in Michigan, just to show you how far off and weak Hillary is

You are the epitome of what a low-information voter looks like.

You are one delusional pup.

You are right. Look at how he goes after his opponents. Remember you, GG and I were talking about him being a plant for Hillary. Honestly, I don't believe that, but this is better than what she could have possibly concocted. Which is to gain support of a good portion of the base, have them abandon their core principles and turn into quasi big government liberals who are ok with raising taxes, taking people's property for the "greater good", huge government spending etc etc. Then have his cult like followers then endorse white identity politics, and attempt to have them turn on FOX news. He is a liberal's wet dream.

None of my friends that came here illegally would have been stopped because of a wall. Not a single one of them. Most of them basically applied for work visas to work in the Bahamas, the plane trip from Bolivia to the Bahamas stops in Miami. From there they stay here. The best way to control illegal immigration is cracking down on the employers. Because that IS the reason why the vast majority of illegal immigrants come, which is to work. Crack down on the employers and you will cut off the flow of illegal immigration.

Yes, the Nationalist parties are doing sooo well in Europe and is destined to do well in a country likes ours where whites will become the minority in just 20 short years.

Lame. In regards to knowing people who are illegal immigrants, yeah, I have quite a few friends that are. Not a single one of them are taking any sort of assistance, they all work here in South Beach as bartenders, waiters and waitresses. And, since you are too dense to understand what I and other people have been trying to say, it's a matter of what the direction the alternative to the Democratic party is going. Will there be a party that continues to be mainstream and is able to propose serious policy positions or will it go the direction you want, which could turn out looking like what has happened in Europe, where the opposing political parties of the left, essentially became nationalistic parties who are seen as fringe, therefore becoming groups commonly referred to as "far right" who are irrelevant to the political process.

I read an interesting article according to insiders of how things played out between Trump and Ailes. Let's see, who is gonna be around longer? Kelly as a successful TV anchor or Trump as a successful politician? I know where my money would be.

3rd are you having a hard time understanding what I said? That link backs up what I stated, which is that gov. Overreach, debt and the economy no longer are the main drivers of motivation for the Tea Party. It says it right there, illegal immigration is the number one issue by a wide margin and that gov. Out reach "comes in a distant second". Just like I said, the Tea party doesn't solely focus on Debt, gov overreach and the economy. Taxed Enough Already. Yet another example of his non conservatism. But hey, he wants to deport all the illegals, full of bluster of non substantive bluster on China and he isn't PC. That's all his supporters care about, screw economic conservatism.

If there is any consolation to all this is that at least Trump's rhetoric and policy proposals aren't affecting everyone else. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/donald-trump-hispanic-favorability-121690.html?hp=l5_4 Donald Trump’s bromides on undocumented immigrants appear to have deeply damaged whatever appeal he might have once had among Hispanic voters. A new Gallup poll released Monday evening found that 65 percent of Hispanic voters say they have an unfavorable view of Trump, compared with 14 percent who view him favorably— yielding him a net favorable score of -51, well below any other presidential candidate. Jeb Bush, meanwhile, racked up the highest favorability rating among GOP candidates with a +11 net favorable score, followed by Marco Rubio with +5 and Carly Fiorina with +3. On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton has a net favorable rating of +40, followed by Sen. Bernie Sanders with a +5 favorability score.

I'm not talking about what they claim on their charters. I'm talking about the composition of the tea party. What I said was 100% correct, not 90% not 75% not 50%, but 100%. Which is that the Tea party no longer is a group of people that solely care about government overreach, debt and economic issues. The group now has taken on immigration and social issues as one of their main causes. That is not the left telling me anything 3rd, I don't get influenced by what people say, I look at the data. The data is first and foremost what influences my decisions, followed by my observations. Taxed Enough Already. That's what it use to be about, but if you were to conduct a poll of what Tea Partiers care about most, according to the links that I provided, the #1 issue is Immigration. You obviously do support Trump. You repeatedly come to his defense, you have claimed that Americans support mass deportation more so than what actually is the case. You claim or inferred that not courting the Latino votes wouldn't affect the outcome in states like Florida and Colorado. You keep claiming that somehow even though Trump is the most disliked politician that he could garner enough support. So your words of you saying that you don't support Trump, doesn't match up with the rest of your words. Bottom line, you are a Trump supporter/sympathizer.