Magox

Thanks for showing us your true colors.

Sorry, the only one here with a bleeding taco is you, and Stop being such a pansy who gets so easily offended when people call out the xenophobes. And everything you just said, applies to you, not me. Look in the mirror, hypocrite.

No, you are wrong about Rubio. Remember, I'm a numbers guy who relies on data to come to my conclusions? Look through the polling data, When asked who would you definitely not vote for from GOP voters. Rubio's number is only 6%, whereas Trump's is 28%. Rubio's is the second lowest on the entire list. Go to page 8. Within the GOP, Rubio has Not only the highest out of all the candidates favorability rating at 72% out of all the candidates. But he has the lowest unfavorability rating at 3%. Dude, that's a + 69 and that is including 25% of Republicans who don't even know who he is. If he had the name recognition of Trump or Hillary we'd be talking about at least +80. By the way, that is even better than Hillary. Same page, look at the general electorate's view of him of favorability. He has the highest favorability of all the GOP and stands at +14. Only one person has a higher net favorability rating, and that's Carson. But of course the difference is that Rubio is much more known than Carson. Having said that, whether you like Carson or not, people do like him. I'm a bit skeptical of his viability but your dismissal of Rubio is not grounded by facts.

I hope you are right B-man. A month ago I would have thought it to be laughable, but it looks increasingly likely that he will win the first few states. His support from his fans is something fierce. I haven't seen this much devotion for a candidate since Obama. Of course the big difference between Obama's support to Trump's is that his net is much larger, but they are equally as deep.

So much irony to sift through between Ozy and Rob's posts, it's just too easy. Ozy, says I take the reductive approach to politics by misstating that I implied that conservatives have to pander to Latino's to win their vote, yet in the very same post advocates the reductive approach of advocating a white only voter strategy!

You see, that's the problem with you and others. You need to learn how to comprehend things that you read rather than just interpreting them the way you see fit. I never said that you have to win the Latino vote to win. Nope, never said that. What I said and implied is that you have to have a strategy and philosophy that is inclusive. Stick to your principles, push for stricter border security, policies that punish employers for hiring illegals etc. but at the same time, make a concerted outreach to Latinos and let them know of all the benefits of conservatism, much like the LIBRE initiative from the Koch Brothers. When you start calling the illegal immigrants rapists and murderers and that you "suppose" some are good people. Yeah, that's a big !@#$ you, which is Trump's and his followers right to pursue. On the other hand, the Latin community in turn is sending an even bigger !@#$ you back to him, and rightfully so. I get it, you are advocating for a white voter strategy. Is it possible that this election he could win with a white person voter strategy? Sure, but highly unlikely. But I can tell you this, the identity politics that you advocate for is a long-term loser.

According to Rob's logic, what you just said makes you a blowhard. TTYT is right, there are nearly as many Repubs that wouldn't vote for him as those that would. What differentiates him from the others more so than anything else is the dying devotion his followers have for him. They are passionate about him, no matter what he says or how many times he's flopped, they don't care. He has successfully managed to draw more support then just the nativist, xenophobe crowd. With his brash non pc attitude, that has drawn more people add that with his nationalistic approach vs. China, that is also appealing to the anxiety filled people who know that we've lost many manufacturing jobs overseas. If Trump can be lucky enough to have 4-5 people stay in this race for a very long time, then he could win the nomination. If this race becomes a 2-3 person contest after the first 10 states, then I believe he loses.

Case in point.

Sorry If I discount the opinion of someone who was whining about others being a "little tough" on someone who advocated the extermination of all the illegal immigrants. This speaks volumes to who you are. And stop being such a little kitty with your faux outrage over people being called xenophobes. I don't care that you are one of those people who get so easily offended, and I'm not going to continue to keep giving you examples of Trump's xenophobia and nativism, if you aren't smart enough to retain what was previously communicated to you or won't even "bother to read through" previous posts, then that's on you. And ironic that you made reference to IQ's, the only one catering to low IQ folks is your hero, Trump.

I have to believe that a lot of the "science" that is taking place on the effects of man made global warming is "supportive" science, meaning that the scientists already have a conclusion that they want to find and with so many data points to sift through they can concoct an explanation to support their claims. We see this in basically all industries, where you have sponsored scientists who are paid for by certain corporations to support their theories. I'm not saying that man has or hasn't contributed to this warming pattern that we have seen, but based on my limited knowledge on the matter, I do know that the earth has gone through many forms of climate change through out its history. And I do know that there is an agenda to place additional forms of taxation and wealth distribution schemes being offered as panacea's to Climate change. Naturally, people are skeptical. To be honest, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, that yes there could be some effect from humans contributing to this but that the effects are overstated and exaggerated.

Win or lose, the email and taking money from foreign governments scandal is going to plague her until the campaign ends.

On a side note. http://www.capitalnewyork.com/node/8575489 This is a republican leaning business group that is largely comprised of Cubans. Even many of the republican Latinos see Trumps comments, the people he has aligned himself with and his proposed policies for what they are. Even my Cuban friends here in Miami that tend to vote GOP are all aligned against him and when Trumps name is mentioned hes always the butt of a joke. If you are the GOP nominee, you have to decisively win the Cuban vote in order to win Florida. Romney last election according to exit polls barely won the Cuban vote, which typically vote GOP at about a 70% clip. If Romney had won what the GOP typically wins, he'd had won Florida. Not only would Trump not win the Cuban vote, but he'd be lucky to win 35%. If Florida goes down, the. that means a Democrat is back in the White House. Oh, and on a non related note, Here is Palin's interview with Trump. For your viewing pleasure.

Anyone who doesn't see Trump's actions as xenophobic is a !@#$ing moron!! And Trumps supporters don't speak well for white people.

How I helped Todd Akin win She absolutely did have something to do with the outcome. I remember this all too well, well before I ever read this article. Akin was lagging big time, third place. Claire spent more money on his campaign in ads for Akin in the last two weeks than Akin did for his entire primary campaign.

Bernie Sanders appears to be pretty authentic and that's what people like about him. Plus he talks about giving free stuff and let's face it, about half the population like the free ****. But, his policy proposals aren't grounded in reality for this country, I mean I'm sure sure he'd make a good prime minister of Denmark, but as a country we aren't quite there yet. Of course that could change, if the GOP becomes a dissolved party and transforms itself to a "far right" party, that abandons economic "conservative" principles and becomes infatuated with immigration, nationalism etc much like we see across Europe, then we'll probably get there in short order. Which obviously would be disastrous. I shudder to think of the possibilities of what would happen to U.S corporations and small businesses not to mention U.S debt if Bernie had his way.

You very well may be right. Either way, it worked out better than Ramos could have ever of hoped. Also, I don't think I've seen the intensity of the anti Trump FB memes as high as I've seen from Latinos then I am seeing right now. It's a fever pitch. Even my non political friends from South America.

This works out well for Trump in the primary as he gains support and works out even better for Ramos in that he virtually guarantees that Trumps support with Latinos will be the lowest in U.S. History if Trump were to Win the nomination which essentially means Trump would lose the election. People have to keep in mind, Ramos above all else is an activist. His goal is to protect his constituencies special interests. He couldn't have scripted a better outcome. He gets Trump to tell him to "go back to Univision ". (Which was the jackpot for Ramos in that it appears that implied Go back to Mexico), then Trump gets his security to forcibly remove him which symbolized deportation. If you hear Ozy or Laura Ingrahm, Ann Coulter, Jesse Waters and all his cult like supporters in the comments section, that's how they viewed it as well and cheered it on. And of course that's how it was viewed through Univision and the rest of the Latino media. I'm not gonna say that Ramos laid the trap and that Trump fell in it, I think it was more luck than anything else for Ramos. But he got what wanted. Those. 15 seconds are like gold for what he wants to achieve.

Oh, they know each other well. Trump previously received a letter from Ramos asking Trump to appear on his network for an interview, Trump feeling scorned because of a previous comparison with someone else that implied that he was a racist from Ramos, published Ramos phone number on his Twitter acct.

Yeah, but you have Rainbows and Unicorns on your side. Take the bet.

It's not just my assumptions its also based on historical data. I fudged with the numbers and gave Trump an unprecedented white turn out, higher than normal African American share and higher than what just about everyone agrees would be his Latino turnout. Your hypothesis is based off Rainbows and Unicorns. If you are so confident, why don't you up the bet that he'll win period, regardless of what happens in the primaries. He has a commanding lead, let's make that bet.

Jeb Bush is too weak of a candidate.

Sorry, your logic doesn't hold up. Basically your argument is one from a partisan perspective. Even though I vehemently disagree with Obama on a ton of issues, he is popular with young, hispanic, asian, black and liberal voters. He has a winning coalition and he's proven that. Trump's popularity has a much lower ceiling than Obama's. I won't go in depth about his appeal to blacks and asians, because I don't know. But I can safely say that they won't be part of his coalition. And we already know that Hispanics are going to be out in record numbers by a wide margin if he were to get the nomination. The only way that Trump could win is if his opponent is really weak and that he absolutely runs up the score with whites and peels off a higher % of black votes than a typical year. In other words above 10%. Check this simulator out. You can play with the numbers. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/26/demographics_and_the_2016_election_scenarios.html Bottom line, you need Florida to win. Last year Romney got 59% of the White vote, 27% of the Latin Vote and 6% of the black vote. Trump is headed towards 15-18% of the Latin Vote. If you plug in 62% of the white vote (which I don't believe he will get) bump up the black vote to 10% and the Latin vote, lets say to even 22% (Which he absolutely wouldn't get) He still loses Florida, Colorado, Ohio, Iowa, Virginia and Iowa. Like I said, I base my conclusions largely on data. Here is more data: Here is the actual poll. http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2274 This poll along with a number of others says a few things. Hillary is a weak candidate, all you have to do is look at Biden and you can view him as a "generic" candidate and fares much better. Of course once he steps into the ring his numbers will eventually go down at some point. Two, look at how many people don't like Trump, not only do they not like him but they think he is a carnival barker. But until this race whittles down to just 2-4 people, he is going to continue to dominate, simply because his followers are entranced with him, and no matter what positions he takes or how many times he flops, even if he flops from one position to another within minutes, they don't care. So, that's where we are.

Hypocrite Alert!

It's not just Ozzy, there are a lot of them. I haven't seen anything like this since Obama, he has the most adoring fans of anyone I have seen from the right in my adult life. Grant it, Obamas support was much much widespread, but the devotion and intensity is pretty remarkable. As of right now, I see Trump winning the first three primary states of NH, Iowa and South Carolina. His base of support is much deeper and intense than any other of the candidates but his ceilings is one of the lowest. The only way the race evens out is once the field whittles down. The anti Trump vote as this progresses will be intense, and it's not going to be the "establishment" that will rally behind another candidate, it will be all those people who believe Trump is a clown, and there are a lot of them.

I was just about to say the same thing.