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ha. it's sad b/c from day one 99.9% of Bils fans were 200% in on Sammy. He was going to be our star...until he wasn't. He never appeared to really fit in with this franchise (obviously mostly b/c of injuries). "What if I told you...." 30for30 in 15yrs here we come!

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we always seem to be spinning our tires

The most frustrating part of all this is that we trade up for Watkins. He was supposed to be the face of our franchise for years to come. And we get a second round pick for him and an average CB? That's the best we could do for a 24yr old Watkins?

It's certainly possible. It's not like Sammy has been putting up 1300/1400yd seasons. Goff is throwing him the ball. Maybe Oriovsky will be his QB..who knows.

True. But at least he plays? 95.83% of his games?

I don't see a thread actually welcoming him aboard, so I figured I'd start one. Career 225 REC 2,673 YDS 11.9 AVG 78 LNG 19 TD Solid WR entering his prime. Only one year older than Sammy. Go BILLS?

Hes probably happy. We are a run first, second, and third team. More focus on him. Better numbers for him. How many times has shady been on the field with a healthy Sammy? 8?

Yup X2

Im as positive as anyone, but today is pretty hard to swallow. To pull this **** on the fanbase 4 weeks before the start of the season is a kick in the nuts. Only possible spin: we are a run first team therefore elite WR are not needed. Sammy prob wasnt coming back next yr and we get a draft pick back for him along with a CB, who if healthy, is prob better than Darby. Darby is pretty bad.

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Well said, especially when this is the first couple of series of the preseason and people are already lambasting players and bringing absolutely nothing but negativity to the board. Nobody wants to read that nonsense. Nobody.

You don't get it. You clearly don't. Algebra has absolutely nothing to do with Law. Nothing. But you know what? You need a damn college degree in order to apply to law school. And you know what, you need to know algebra in order to obtain a college degree. Go complain about it how it's not fair. We all know it's not "fair" but we suck it the hell up and go through with it, you know why? Bc we want to reach that goal. If we didn't want to reach that goal, we would drop out. The NFL is a PRIVATE EMPLOYER. The NFL can say they want you to stand on one foot for half an hour while chewing gum and reciting the alphabet backwards before you're eligible for hire. And you know what? THEY CAN DO THAT. If you don't want to jump through that hoop, then you shouldn't apply to the NFL. The NFL wants their employees to attend college for a few years before they can apply. They have every right to request that.

Right.

Do you even realize what you're arguing? Everyone should argue the following then: Why do we need to go to college in order to join the workforce? It's all a scam. Screw it I'm revolting. It's not fair. Who the heck cares if you're good at football? Playing football isn't a right in life, it's a privilege. If you want that privilege, you jump through the hoops. What's so difficult to understand about that? We aren't arguing about basic human rights here. We're arguing about the opportunity to play for the NFL - a private entity. If you're really good at football and don't want to jump through their hoops, go play for the CFL then. Or go play on some 3rd rate team in Germany somewhere.

Hold on now Dave, you're arguing so many different things we need to focus here. 1. Working conditions? College players aren't in the NFL yet so they can't complain about working conditions. And like I said before, they can't really complain about "working" in college since the very college they're going to is giving them a free ride AS IS. In addition to countless other perks that the average college student doesn't receive. 2. Career path requirements? You know the requirements of the career you want to pursue (NFL) since the day you are born. Much the same way doctors, lawyers, engineers know the requirements of their career well in advance. What is their to complain about? You either accept it, or choose a different career if you can't deal with it. Geeze man. Tens of thousands of players have managed to go to college and then go to the NFL over the past 100yrs. Rosen isn't experiencing anything different than those other tens of thousands of individuals.

Says who exactly??? The NFL (you know, their potential employer) says otherwise. That's like me saying I'm really really really damn smart and I would make an awesome intel analyst for the USAF, but I can't pass their PT requirements b/c I'm fat and slow, I should still be able to join b/c damn it I'm smart. The NFL has their requirements for employment. Accept it or don't. But don't complain about it.

Do we need a college degree for anything really? We could internship at probably 95% of jobs for a few years and learn how to do that job without a degree. I could probably make a stronger argument that a High School kid needs more preparation/maturity/physical growth for the NFL than an 18yr old kid needs to go into marketing for example. Unfortunately or fortunately college is a means to an end for many things, whether it's deemed fair or not. It's a reality.

Listen, that's not my point. You can be extremely successful without going to college. I think you get my point, however.

And the point? That's like saying if you want a law degree you have to get a Bachelor's first. Or if you want to become a Doctor, you have to get a Bachelors first. If you want to pursue a law degree badly enough or an MD, you know this beforehand don't you? Deal with it, or you know what? Don't. Go work at your local pizza shop.

I have a couple of issues with Rosen's comments: 1. First and foremost, nobody is forcing you to play football AND got to college. It's your choice. If you feel you're up to it, do it. If you feel you can't handle it, then don't. That simple. Multiple people go to school Full time and work MULTIPLE part-time jobs and/or raise families. 2. Athletes like Rosen don't get enough help? You have a free ride to a top-tier university. That in and of itself is worth around $150,000 - $250,000. (This isn't even scratching the surface of all of the other perks they receive that aren't reported) 3. I went to a university that has a football program in the Big 10. To say that those athletes didn't get assistance in their academics is ludicrous. The athletes had tutors/assistants at their beck and call - they didn't need to seek out help like your average student, help was afforded to them without being sought out.

Who cares. I dont see the same publicity for health ailments suffered by coal miners who make 1/1000 the amount some of these players make.

Gronk started a whopping 6 games last season and was very ineffective for his standards. Edelman started one less game than Hogan and still had over 1,100 yds. Again, whats the argument here? Hogan joined arguably the best HC/QB combo in the history of the NFL, with an offensive syatem that is a well-oiled machine, and he put up 680 yards, 4tds. That put him at 61st in the NFL for receiving. He put up 450yds and 2 TD with the "lowly" tyrod on a run-first offense the year before. Take away the game Hogan had vs the Bills and Gilmore and Hogan finishes with almost identical numbers with the Pats.

Again. The greatest QB in the history of the game. And we want to compare his production in a pass happy offense to a run first offense with Ej and TT. Whats the point? That we need the GOAT to get 4tds out of Hogan? Is that the point?