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The greatest QB to ever play this damn game. And chris hogan got 4td and 680yds with him. HOF.

The number of games is irrelevant. The revenue is generated in those 16 games. Plus playoffs.

Well said.

Koolaid? Im having a discussion about NFL players' worth and value relative to other athletes in american professional team sports and you're talking about single moms. Again, step away from the discussion if you cant even keep it on topic.

The single mom? If you cant have a conversation that's fundamentally rooted in reality, then remove yourself from the conversation.

I get what you're saying but the 84m dollar salary cap floor in a sport that generates revenue like the NFL is laughable, thats a large part of the problem. And the owners are the ones laughing all the way to the bank. When the only two beneficiaries of revenue can be players or owners, i dont see how a discussion regarding $ can be had without addressing the root problem.

Thank you.

Put aside your personal biasis and answer the following questions as objectively as possible: 1. Which of the 3 major team sports is the most physically demanding? 2. Which of the 3 major team sports generates the most revenue? 3. Which of the 3 major team sports pays its players the least in guaranteed money? NFL players have a right to be upset. But 100% of their anger should be directed at their predecessors for continuously dropping the ball in labor talks.

Amen brother. We the fans create the problem and then we the fans complain about it. The entire point of this thread was that NFL players are grossly underpaid when compared to their peers in the (team) sports entertainment industry, especially taking into account revenue generated by the league they play in. The point of this thread is not to compare players to what a package handler at UPS makes and thus call them greedy because they want more money. In the end, revenue generated in the NFL has one of two routes: players or owners. There isnt a fund set up to pay malnourished Ethiopian children from the money saved on "bad" contracts. And that money from "bad" contracts isnt always reinvested in the team. Half the league has tens of millions of dollars freed up in salary cap space. And thats based on a salary cap thats a joke relative to the revenue generated by the league.

Let me be as succinct as possible so people don't think i'm arguing the wrong point: 1. Yes, I feel that contracts should be guaranteed in the NFL. Money has to go somewhere folks. And it's either going to go to the players, or stay with the owners. Players. Or owners. Again, players, or owners. Increase the salary cap per team, force the owners to spend more money. Or remove the hard salary cap and implement another formula that benefits the players a bit more. 2. Haynewworth is an absolute extreme example. He's highly regarded as the single worst FA signing in NFL history. But lets think about that for a second. The single worst FA signing in NFL history and the Redskins were only out what 35 million? The mets are still paying bobby bonilla millions. 3. And yes, Haynesworth deserved a payday. In any sport he would get a payday for being regarded as the best at his position when he hit FA. And what was his pay day in the end for being the best at his position? 35 million? If that is how an NFL player gets rewarded as compared to other professional sports, the system is broken. Again, I realize he was a bust, but Haynesworth is an extreme example of FA gone bad. At the end of the day, however, I'd rather the player benefit from FA going bad than the owners pocketing the revenue money as they sit in their nice suits in their luxury suites when it's -20 on a snowy day in Green Bay and player X dislocates his freaking knee cap.

He was the defensive player of the year in 2008 before he signed that contract. He was one of the best defensive players in the league for a couple of years. That merits a payday. And my point is that his payday wasnt $100m (as it would be in nba or mlb), but more like $40m guaranteed. So no it wasnt better for everyone. The player performed at the top of his game in his sport and got compensated $40m basically which is peanuts in baseball for example. I think the redskins actually ended up paying him something like $35m and were able to get rid of him. He ended up being a bust so for the team not having to pay a guaranteed contract was certainly a win but not for the player. Im not saying that we need to go to the other extreme (which to me is baseball), but we need to be honest in this discussion: NFL players are getting the raw end of the deal when it comes to paydays in professional sports. Its undeniable.

But the redskins didnt pay Haynesworth $100m. Not even close. And how were they forced into anything? He was a FA.

The average MLB career is a little over 5 yrs. all contracts are guaranteed. To eat sunflower seeds half the time. Half a billion dollar contract for a single player within the next few years. The NFL players association better give it a good run.

NFL players from the previous generation really screwed over future generations. It will take some sort of strike by players union to ultimately rectify the situation through an improved labor agreemenr deal. But NFL players generally arent too bright. I wont hold my breath. Meanwhile, some think Bryce Harper will get paid half a BILLION. Now There's a players union that looked out for their own.

If we can go into the bye at 3-2 id be happy.

The other person appears to have filed assault charges now.

Lmao. This was great. I literally laughed out loud.

Philip Rivers played in a 70k football stadium for 13yrs and pooped the bed year after year. Maybe 27k will be better for him.

Were they supposed to hire a new GM that didnt mesh with the newly acquired HC? That wouldve gone well for the franchise? Sarcasm. This happens in all industries.

In that division a team like the Chiefs could go 7-9 or so. I feel theyve had quite a bit of luck last few years. Theyre solid no doubt but some of their wins have been ridiculous.

This is fine. He has a monster year, we tag him and he'll be worth every penny. He cant play half the season again? Bye, no hard feelings.

"Jones broke the FBS single-season receptions record (158) as a senior, dropping just 6-of-164 catchable targets. While Jones lived on bubble screens and quick hitters and averaged only 10.7 yards per catch, he showed elite athleticism with a 94th-percentile SPARQ score and 4.45 speed at the Combine. Albeit not quite as big, Jones profiles similarly to Eagles WR Jordan Matthews as a slot-Z chain mover with more reliable hands." 6 drops out of 164 targets. Wow talk about hands.

There apparently doesnt seem to be agreement as to where he is best suited. I think the biggest issue is his pass protection hence the disagreement. Run blocking he's a bulldozer

Hes going to be our RT. Awesome run blocker. Solid pick

The Bills surrendered picks No. 44 and 91 in exchange for Nos. 37 and 149 so they could address their crater behind Sammy Watkins. Jones (62/201) made 41 starts for the Pirates, setting a school record for career catches (399) and finishing second in ECU history in both receiving yards (4,279) and touchdown grabs (23). Jones broke the FBS single-season receptions record (158) as a senior, dropping just 6-of-164 catchable targets. While Jones lived on bubble screens and quick hitters and averaged only 10.7 yards per catch, he showed elite athleticism with a 94th-percentile SPARQ score and 4.45 speed at the Combine. Albeit not quite as big, Jones profiles similarly to Eagles WR Jordan Matthews as a slot-Z chain mover with more reliable hands. -rotoworld