GaryPinC

You're right, Mahomes is not a valid argument to try and make and isn't important to my point, my apologies. I'm also not suggesting we move up to #10 to get a receiver. My point is that the Bills can find talent at the back of the first and into the second round if they put the effort in, which may include moving up 5-10 spots or so. So the "we're drafting at the end of rounds, woe is us" doesn't hold much water for me at this point. We have Josh Allen. You seem to be missing the fundamental point that if the Bills want to win a Superbowl they need to use better resources on receivers and the front seven on defense. Get the proper scouting system in, it doesn't have to be trading way up to grab a guy. 8 years in and the scouts and/or Beane blew the Coleman pick so badly? It shouldn't happen at this point, that high in the draft. What a wasted resource. That's why we can't make it to the Superbowl. You can quote regular season statistics and if that's adequate for you, no problem. We do well in the regular season. The playoffs are the thing, I don't believe this year's receiving statistics will translate to a Superbowl, so we can agree to disagree and see. And if there was a game changing DE or LB that fell to number 10, I would absolutely mortgage picks to move up and get him. We sorely need one. JMO of course.

Just a few examples: late first to third round All-pro or emerging receivers: 2019 DK Metcalf(2nd, #64) 2020. Brandon Aiyuk(1st, #25) 2021 Nico Collins (third, #89) 2022 George Pickens (2nd, #52) 2023 Zay Flowers (1st, 22) Trying to say you have to pick top 10 is garbage. Sure does help, but know what you need, have the right scouts and system in place, and top 10 is not necessary once you have Josh Allen. I'm tired of the late route picking excuse. We are an established winning franchise. Some years, yes, you need extra picks because of roster turnover. Other years you trade away picks to move up and get that one difference maker. Like the Chiefs did in the 2017 draft when they moved to 10 from 27. Shaw, you talk about Elam and Coleman, and rightly so. Neither one has the brainpower, Coleman doesn't have the speed and Elam just wasn't a good fit for our system. That's a failure of our evaluation system. Hopefully they fix that. Get the people in who can get it right. Honestly, Coleman feels like they just picked him because Josh liked him, lol.

That's great for building a strong regular season team and culture, but we need to draft guys willing to step up and be difference makers in the playoffs. That's where we are at and Beane has to make the drafting shift. Seems like he's starting to tune into it with this year's draft, but he needed to shift 2-4 years ago. WRT salary concerns, that even more favors the first contract salary discounts through drafting.

To be honest, at this point with the team we have, I favor trading up to get that player you really want and believe can be a difference maker. It was one thing when we were building our team (and Beane has traded back many times), but now we need game changers. Most DL need 2-3 years to develop so it's too early with Sanders.

Don't forget the division titles and playoff games won, lol!

It's a difficulty, but good GMs find a way to ID those players and get it done. He's had 8 drafts + McDermott in 2017.

To be fair, it's a bit of both, but his hand was tilted by repeated failures with DL for one. McDermott doesn't help with players needing to fit the system instead of the opposite and his conservative defensive approach. I think next year will really be a golden chance. Bring Bosa and Hoecht back, heal the DL. Walker and Sanders year 2, safety and DB solidified and developing, OL solid, TE's great, prime Cook. Beane really just needs to focus on getting that receiver and shoring up LB. Also, Mahomes' run may be slowly winding down and if Kelce comes back he is more a solid option instead of a game changer. For me this year, Mahomes has lost a bit of elite with his ball placement and arm strength but we will see.

Good point, but did Beane purposefully design it this way or is it because he fails to draft game changing talent and this is what we're left with?

Yeah, don't forget about that pass in the flat on Hunt's back shoulder, also. Those are super-hard to catch on a full run. Mahomes deep ball floated short on him too. Definitely seems like he's losing a bit of his edge.

I listened to some of it. For me, the point isn't whether what he was saying is true. The guy sounds like a football position coach, lots of profanity and talking out his *ss half the time. Not a good look for an AD representing all the athletic programs at PSU. He seems unprofessional, not a fan and it helps show why this coaching search was such a mess. I'd be happy if they flush him sometime soon, despite the unsettling effect.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2025/12/05/penn-state-ad-pat-kraft-audio-leak-alleged-players-meeting-coaching-search-michigan-cheaters-oregon/87623117007/ Buffoons going to buffoon.

Congratulations on the wins and being there to witness history! That was an amazing game. That late third and 6 play to capture their last first down tells you everything you need to know about the IU coaching staff. OSU takes the loss on an unfortunate kick but gets valuable experience if they meet again. Great stuff!

Yeah, Haines is really good. He'll be moving on after next season. Saw a game earlier this year and he was so creative with his stunting and blitzes. Great game, still think the Bucks win it but they'll have to earn it! Happy for IU, they've been some form of terrible my whole life.

Good luck tonight, that's a real tall order! I'm looking forward to seeing what Bryant Haines has cooked up on D. I've been impressed with his coaching.

Sure, but buffoons are going to buffoon. There's multiple layers here, which makes it more damning. You can't hide the buffoon, so let's hope he wisens up or gets dealt with