TheLynchTrain

Did anyone see his face after we got McKelvins kick return called back? It actually had emotion on his face....angry but at the same time he looked like he was going to cry. It was the face of a man coaching for his life. I did feel sorry for the guy. But the thing is, he can't hack it at this point, and as sad as it is, he's gonna walk all they way to the bank with a couple mil. So he can't be that sad.

Especially with the fact that they didn't get a first down the whole quarter! And the fact that when they did get the ball back after JPs pick, our D stuffed them 4 times and got a turnover on downs. There was absolutely no way they could have scored any offensive points on us unless Leo Washington had a nice return

As I've posted on here, and others have, check this video: http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=plays-defense JP was hit betwen 2:03 or 2:02 left. If he had thrown the ball away at 2:03, there would still be 3 seconds left on the clock. A third down run would have then again stopped at the 2 min warning, and we would have to punt the ball to the Jets with 2 mins left and 2 timeouts because they didnt have to use them. Enough of this talk...this conversation is over about if it was a good call or not...it was obviously a bad call...some people in the media even comparing it to the Miracle in the Meadowlands with idiot Herm "We play to win the game" Edwards.

Yea so we call a play for a pass to McIntyre, a guy that has all but 3 balls thrown to him all season? A dagger in throat? The Jets had a dagger in their throught all quarter...again, they DID NOT HAVE A FIRST DOWN ALL QUARTER...when was the last time a bills defense did this? The cleveland game was different...Lynch had just run 4 running plays and gained 17 yards. The Jets D was beat. It was over. If you remember, we got the ball back TWICE after that, which is remarkable in its own. And the Jets Offense couldn't do anything even after their D came up with picks. Our defense even held them on FOURTH DOWN. And you're saying that they probably could have drove and kicked a field goal? Usually you have some good comments big cat...not today

Alphadog...you are mistaken...the score was 27-24 at that time and we were up by THREE points not TWO. Check the Play by Play http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?g...20&period=4 Secondly, there was absolutely NO REASON WHATSOEVER why we should have passes the ball, on 2nd or 3rd down. Absolutely no reason. As you yourself stated, Lynch had the "hot hand," and even though LosTman was pretty adequate on the last scoring drive (4 for 4), you dance with the one that brung ya, in this case, Lynch. Third, we wouldn't lose on a FG if they scored on the next drive...it would have tied the game up and gone to overtime...that is after McKelvin gets another shot at a kick return. Also, its good to note that our defense hadn't allowed a first down in the entire 4th quarter. I would be hard pressed to think that the Jets could have mustered a first with 1:30 left and one timeout (that is if we ran on both plays and made the Jets spend their 2nd).

Nope. Watch this video, first provided by Lori. http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=plays-defense. Lostman was hit with 2:02 or 2:03 left on the clock. Even IF he threw the ball away (still to much to ask of the 5th year veteran who professes he's still learning from his mistakes) right before he got hit, there would have been at least 2:03 or 2:04 left on the clock. Then we would have run on third and hit the two minute warning, without the Jets having to waste ANY of their timeouts. Now, if we had run on 2nd and 5 (after Lynch had run four plays for 17 yards and the last for 5), we would have probably got a few more and hit the two min warning. Third down, even if we didn't get the first, we'd still force the Jets to call their 2nd timeout. They'd probably get the ball back with 1:45 left and 1 timeout on their 30 yard line....all the pressure on Brett Favre and an offense that hadn't got a first down the ENTIRE FOURTH QUARTER! As miserable a game that was, when was the last time our defense didn't allow a team to get a first down in a quarter...on top of that, IN THE FOURTH! Another thing I noticed on this drive: JP Lostman, game clock extraordinaire, usually lets the clock go down to 1 or 2 seconds on every other play (if he even gets the ball off), allowing the defense to know precisely when they should get off their blocks on every down. But on the last drive, instead of milking every second of the play clock that was ticking down from 4 mins, 3 mins to 2 mins, he was calling plays with 5 or 6 seconds left on the clock. Inexplicable. If we had punted with under 2 mins and Favre had scored on them, I think this would have been the talk of the town today.

Here is what Dickie said about that play: The Jets were surprised the Bills were passing in that situation, expecting Buffalo to try to run out the clock. After all, Marshawn Lynch gained 127 yards on 21 carries and New York was struggling to stop him. Instead, coach Dick Jauron overruled offensive coordinator Turk Schonert. "Clearly the responsibility for the last call, the play-action pass, that was mine," Jauron said. "That goes right on me. It backfired clearly and caused us to lose the game. ... It's one of those times in a game that's pretty good for a pass, right before the 2-minute." Even when he put the blame on himself, he still thinks it was a GOOD PLAYCALL! http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=281214020

Donovan signed a 12 year 115 mil contract in 2002 with 20 mil guaranteed. Unless he has restructured, he is under contract until 2013. Usually, those last few years of these contracts are pretty bloated too. If we get Donovan, I expect a steve mcnair type guy at this point in his career, especially if he has to learn a new playbook on a new team...something hes never had to do. I also expect quite a few bounce passes to receivers...

Moulds looked like the worst player in the league his rookie and sophomore years, and I remember all the flak he got about it in the papers and on the radio. The guy had hands like Robert Royal...would drop every other pass.

I like your optimism but every "high powered" OC in the league makes more money that Juaron....and what high "profile" OC would want to come to buffalo to let his career die?

Yep...that year they were calling the Chargers the Buffalo Bills of the West because John Butler and AJ Smith took Dougie over along with Marcellus Wiley and a bunch of other bills. And they beat us by three points i think i recall...also that year i remember the Bengals started out by beating the future SB champ Pats and good Baltimore team to go 2-0 (i think?) and pundits were saying that the Chargers and the Bungles finally got out of the Dark Ages...and then they both fell on their faces the rest of the year.

And then the Bills will have their first Black Jewish player

The NFL needs an majority owner that owns at least 30% of the team, and there cannot be more than 24 different interests. So if the Bills are roughly sold for a billion, the majority owner would need at least 300 mil. Moreover, the NFL has rules on how much debt a team can carry. From what I've heard, Jimbo has a lot of extended family (a few of them with some serious cash) in Pittsburgh that will make up the group that will bid for the team when Ralphie croaks. Hopefully this might mean that Tommy will join the equation.

Well the article also says Ralph has a "chest virus." That doesn't bode well for a region that has been hanging its hopes on one valve in a 90 year olds' chest for the last 10 years.

what, and saying that the bills "blew" the first round and calling mckelvin an "illiterate stuttering project" doesnt qualify as labeling the guy a bust? And those were thread titles not quotes. And, oh, by the way here is a quote from Virgil1528: "He got absolutely abused last week against the Chargers and hasn't done a thing on Kick Returns. As of right now, he is an absolute bust. "

I'd trade Fins for Avery straight up. Regardless of his shenanigans, he's still awesome at what he does on the ice and I think the fans would love it. Sabres need something, anything to get them out of this lackluster play. EDIT: By suspending Avery, the NHL turned an irrelevant game in December between Dallas and Calgary that people probably would have watched (to see what Dion would have done) back to where it was originally, irrelevant.

Just gonna say that Promo. Like your style.

Um, yes plenty of people did. Here ya go: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...871&hl=bust "Bills blew the 1st round of the draft...." http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...867&hl=bust "Dominic Rogers-Cromartie..2 picks today, we drafted a illiterate stuttering project." http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...074&hl=bust "Defend these players to me, Leodis McKelvin and Robert Royal" http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...758&hl=bust "Is it still to early to call, Leodis McKelvin, James Hardy and Chris Ellis busts?" http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/story/493112.html Jerry Sullivan:McKelvin provides little help" This is only a sample of what was said about McKelvin on this board. I never believed he was a bust because he's still a rookie. And to tell the truth, I was pretty surprised he won Rookie of the Month honors in Nov. Obviously, he's been sick as a punt returner, but I thought he only had the one great game against the lowly Chiefs, a few good outings, and some pretty terrible coverage on a few key plays in Nov (that early SF TD last week). Maybe its more of the fact that there really werent too many other rookies out there last month that played stellar on special teams while also having a career game on one side of the ball. But again, he's a rookie, and rookie years don't really determine all that much for how they will play the rest of their career, save a few exceptional players every year. I think he'll turn in to a great player, but I wouldnt read too much into how he's performed this year. And hopefully he can top that career game time and time again.

87% four wrong...i feel like an idiot with the ones i missed.

Still, the fact remains that if all seats are not sold out to the four future games, Buffalo residents will not be able to see the games on television. Thanks for the update though.

The real story is why wasn't Ralph at the game? Does he normally watch games in Detroit? Think there might have been medical problems? As much as a lot of people on this board spew about Ralphie being cheapie, WTF are we gonna do if Ralph keels over today or tomorrow? I for one am hoping for a prolonged death for as long as possible.

Is it though? I understand the logic that Rogers Co "bought" all the seats, and now theyre just reselling them. But where have you read this, where is the proof? This toronto article is the only proof I've seen anywhere about a blackout situation, While those in the journalistic field obviously do not have a monopoly on the truth and facts (especially a Toronto paper which probably doesnt understand the intricacies of the NFL blackout rules), it is still a better source than yourself. No offense, I just wanna see proof one way or the other that future TO games won't be blacked out if they dont sell. EDIT: I am inclined to believe that this reporter is wrong because I haven't seen it reported whatsoever in any Buffalo paper or news source...but its not like they havent dropped the ball before so I dont know.

Haha Rogers rising from the dead? I obviously meant Rogers Comm.

Well here's Ricky Williams trashing the crappy Dolphin fans... "Each town up there, when they would go to the games, they were true fans. Sometimes in Miami the fans only show up when you are winning. But when you go to places like Hamilton, Regina and Calgary, they are huge football fans. "It was refreshing." http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnist...625396-sun.html

It is still ridiculous. Toronto is still an hour and thirty minutes away. AND it is in another country. I'm not sure, but I would bet that if RWS doesn't sell out for a game and WNY is blacked out, Canadian cities still get the game because they don't have to deal with American television contracts/Direct TV/ect. This is a complete slap in the face to Buffalo. Still, it is probably a moot point because Rogers or the Bills or some corporate entity will probably buy up the rest of the tickets to avoid such a firestorm and embarrassment.