HardyBoy

I think that's easily explained by the foot injury he had... arguably one of the more impactful injuries the team had once White got hurt...and Elam's injury was was very early in training camp when iirc he was getting some positive reviews before he got hurt. Then the fans not know the entire season basically other than he was on IR and it sounds like Beane didn't know either until after it was obvious he was significantly injured and put on IR, so they couldn't really be super aggressive to replace White after he got hurt, because they figured they had Elam...at least that's how I am piecing how things went down

JP Losman was ruined by coaching actually... I'm with you on EJ

Steve is like a construct man, the opposite of which is Stu, don't be Stu. Lol, love that movie

I'm 40 years old and was recently asked how many concerts I have been to... I've been seeing shows since I've been 16 years old or so, let's round that up to 20 to account for not seeing shows during covid and when my two kids were super little for a few months (lol, except my youngest was born in December 2019, so there is overlap there). At an extremely conservative estimate at one concert a month, that's 12 a year for 20 years and puts me at 240... frame of reference, I saw about 10 concerts this year already just from Jan through May... I'm counting a show as anything that isn't like me going to a farmers market where there is music, unless I intentionally went for that music and watched the entire show... I'm talking big venues like Darien Lake, Great Woods, Coral Sky and most recently Walnut Creek where I live in Raleigh now, but also smaller theaters and concerts at bars (I'm not counting if there is live music randomly at a bar either, like I legit had to make an effort to see the band)... Ticketmaster and Live Nation suck so much, they're predatory, they sell these platinum tickets at crazy markups, while holding back the inventory or selling it to brokers to artificially manipulate supply... there's a whole bunch of stuff... getting fees like 10 times over... in most cases the best move is to wait until the day of the show to get tickets at the venue, for concerts at least... there are absolutely some hard to get tickets still, Billy Strings in Raleigh last summer for that Saturday show was super tough... but I just walked around adlibbing funny lines to a song I made up called "Who's got my extra, my heady extra" and got enough people laughing that finally someone was like I got one that I'll sell you $10 below face cause our friend bailed and we're looking to sell it to someone for a fair deal and screw him he'll owe us $10 for bailing last minute...ramble ramble Anyone going to the phish festival in Delaware this August by any chance?

I lived in the Fort Lauderdale area for 8 years from 2012 to 2020...were you walking around the area where Hard Rock is?! Hollywood is pretty cool, and has awesome parts, but also has some rough areas...walking around the Hard Rock hotel area like in the area off the hotel grounds, yeah I'd definitely not at all recommend doing that

Definitely possible... could also be where when they signed him they gave them their word that no matter if there is a spot ultimately for him, that if he comes in and genuinely tries and has an awesome attitude, that they would help him try and catch on with a different team. So where normally he would keep that in house and in a meeting room or a 1-1 convo with a player, he's saying it publicly because the guy has a reputation that maybe isn't fair or he is working on changing the perception.

Wonder if they'll go 12 personnel and use Kincaid, Shakir, and Coleman bunched with Kincaid on the line so he can be the one beating press and then Samuel as the weak side receiver and Knox in line... the jet sweep action with Samuel and shifting/ motioning in and out of that alignment... it's exciting. Then have Cook running counters with Brown and Dawkins pulling...I think this offense could be really cool to watch, I'm super excited

Are you consistent with that view point or are you good with people who break laws that you feel are unjust and are immoral?

What exactly did these two guys do that makes you call them bad people?

I don't agree with that interpretation...I see it as he was among a tier of players where they felt comfortable spending a pick without spending future assets to trade up, where they saw they had say five players when they were at 28 that they valued equally, so they knew if they dropped to 33 they would be guarenteed to get one of those five. That doesn't mean they didn't have Coleman as one of their guys they wanted...it's just they would have been equally good with anyone in that tier and they would have been just as pumped to draft anyone in that tier equally...Coleman definitely was their guy, as were several others in that range I'm sure. They definitely didn't settle...they got who they wanted, added a 3rd and went from the bottom of the 6th to the top of the fifth in the process...they killed it

Haha, wait me?! I think sports talk radio taking phone calls from the audience is super lazy and they do it largely to fill space...that and the reflexive immediate negative reaction people have and the use of petty nicknames is super annoying

Oh stiffle it Hondo

I don't pray, but sure

Sounds about right

Yeah, I remember Tim Graham was positing in here right around when I joined iirc, which had to have been somewhere between 2007-2009 I would think (I lurked for a whiiiillle before actually signing up) It really might have been Jerry Sullivan and seven burner accounts that forced Graham out, based on the time frame... I'm only mostly kidding!

They definitely were both on here posting for a bit at separate times until I would imagine Jerry Sullivan's seven burner accounts called them out for not sharing details that would have burned their sources or something. I can't remember all the specifics, felt silly, especially as they seemed pretty engaged.

Didn't we run both him and Warrow off from here? And by we I mean some of us

Debi from Depew in the house? Lol, I'm just kidding

I call everyone dude for what it's worth...and you didn't address the point of my post

There's a difference between people having their own opinion and the swirling negative group think of Deppie from Depew and Frank on a cell

Um dude, he's saying people shouldn't listen to Debbie from Depew, not that Bills leadership and scouting should be proud they know more than Debbie.

Um, definitely remove Dareus from that list... dude deservingly got bank on a second contract and then coasted...he was gearing up to be a generational talent. It's funny, people specifically calling Dareus a bust, while complaining about this Bills leadership drafting players who "love ball" even if there are other players who maybe measure better (not saying you are that person)

Oh *****, I read this after I voted...I thought I could throw a tiny toss to a running back right next to me or something! Wonder if I can change my vote! Lol, every cb taking away the short stuff and even though I can throw a football decently far, I'll get destroyed by a blitz or just the rush and not get up... it would be awful

To be fair I do think it was injuries largely with Watkins... which is a huge risk in the nfl obviously. He also turned out to have some pretty let's just say interesting ideas on things iirc... kinda wonder if he brought any of that into his injury rehab?

You can find a bit better than average qb play in free agency and through trades...Baker Mayfield for example...using a top five pick on a mid first or lower rated qb is bad use of draft value...especially when those players are going to likely bad teams and situations and their flaws will be magnified, which gunner points out in several of his ratings as a concern. If you want to argue trading out of the very top of a weak qb draft to get more picks to help you get up the next chance you have where there are a number of elite qb prospects, assuming you can find people to give you value for the pick without there being an elite qb prospect, sure...reaching for any position, especially qb to get a slightly better than average prospect...and then saying there's no argument... I'm not with you on that one, but you're welcome to your opinion obviously. The worst thing to have is a mid-tier rookie qb that you don't know if you should re-sign or let walk...look at Tannehil with the Dolphins, shoot, look at Tua now who has had trouble in the cold and wind late in the season. Look at Dak Prescott and his contract...some of those guys are well above slightly above average...I just don't think you ever reach for a player and seeing elite ceiling due to athleticism and coachability isn't reaching, that's factored into the ratings...some people might have a higher risk tolerance than others...EJ Manuel was a bad pick...JP Losman was a very good pick who went to a very bad situation sadly...we've seen examples of two of those situations play out in Buffalo...don't reach for a qb or any player based on need