X. Benedict Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 i am a moral realist.... A moral realist, eh? Doesn't that require verification of the truth of at least one moral claim as a premise. What precisely are the moral claims you hold as real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 A moral realist, eh? Doesn't that require verification of the truth of at least one moral claim as a premise. What precisely are the moral claims you hold as real? our experience is real and it is in human nature to move our experience in the direction of happiness or well being and move away from suffering... i dont know if its objective but it certainly lines up with what we would call common sense dealing with how we want our world to be , ie stealing is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 our experience is real How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 How do you know that? because i am having an experiece... i think therefore i am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 because i am having an experiece... i think therefore i am. So your posting while sitting on the toilet? We don't need to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 because i am having an experiece... That only means it's an experience. How do you know it's real? i think therefore i am. Doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 That only means it's an experience. How do you know it's real? how else do i define reality, reality is ur experience... it could be an illusory... Doubtful. can we have an truce , for crying out loud... jeeezz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 can we have an truce , for crying out loud... jeeezz No, not until you learn something. Now where is your evidence that your experience is real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 No, not until you learn something. Now where is your evidence that your experience is real? it could be illusory, but what would that even mean, exactly what is reality apart from reality? im on firm ground accpeting reality, this is why i dont jump off buildings as if this was the matrix.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 this is reality until u come up with another dimension.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 this is reality until u come up with another dimension.... I've never seen someone add inane replies to his own inane posts as much as you. In a short time, you have vaulted past some of the worst posters of all time to land solidly in the top 5. Respecting the rules of punctuation would drop you a few notches since you're the only person on this board who thinks his sentences are clearer without punctuation but still: Welcome to the top 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 dude its a message board, relax man it all going to be ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 it could be illusory, but what would that even mean, exactly what is reality apart from reality? im on firm ground accpeting reality, this is why i dont jump off buildings as if this was the matrix.. But how do you KNOW? How do you know reality is "real", so to speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 i know because all i can experiene is my experience....duh again it could be illusory but not until someone proves that this experience is fake... again even if it was fake what would that even mean? illusory or not, its still real in the sense (U R HAVING AN EXPERIENCE, U R THINKING) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 For example consequences do exist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 i know because all i can experiene is my experience....duh again it could be illusory but not until someone proves that this experience is fake... again even if it was fake what would that even mean? So you know your reality is real because you don't know if your reality is illusory? In other words, you can't prove reality is real? illusory or not, its still real in the sense (U R HAVING AN EXPERIENCE, U R THINKING) So now you're saying illusion is still reality if you are experiencing the illusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 For example consequences do exist... Prove it. Where is your evidence? C'mon here...you're the self-professed rationalist. Stop making unsupported statements - be a rationalist and prove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 if i jump off a building i will die , i cannot fly. that is the consequence of believing something that is not real... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 we are forced to deal with reality... that is real enough, again what is the other option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 if i jump off a building i will die , i cannot fly. that is the consequence of believing something that is not real... Prove it. Where is your evidence? we are forced to deal with reality... Prove it. Where is your evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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