Magox Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 US Vice President Joe Biden said the Obama administration “misread how bad the economy was" you don't say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I especially love this quote ""This was supposed to be about jobs, jobs and jobs. And the fact is it turned into nothing more than spending, spending and more spending on a lot of big government bureaucracy," John Boehner of Ohio said." John - where is your plan to help out the economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 I especially love this quote ""This was supposed to be about jobs, jobs and jobs. And the fact is it turned into nothing more than spending, spending and more spending on a lot of big government bureaucracy," John Boehner of Ohio said." John - where is your plan to help out the economy? Republican party don't have too many solutions, that is a part of the reason why they are where they are. The best thing the Republicans have going for them are the liberals and their spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Republican party don't have too many solutions, that is a part of the reason why they are where they are. The best thing the Republicans have going for them are the liberals and their spending. That may be true with some voters... worst thing for them is sitting on the sidelines saying "I told you so" after the fact. That clearly does not show leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 That may be true with some voters... worst thing for them is sitting on the sidelines saying "I told you so" after the fact. That clearly does not show leadership. It's what the Democrats did for eight years, and got them Congress and the White House. And what the Republicans did before that. It's just politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 It's what the Democrats did for eight years, and got them Congress and the White House. And what the Republicans did before that. It's just politics. I was just about to say the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 It's what the Democrats did for eight years, and got them Congress and the White House. And what the Republicans did before that. It's just politics. Didn't the republicans have the 60 votes for the majority of those eight years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 US Vice President Joe Biden said the Obama administration “misread how bad the economy was" you don't say Carrying on the proud American tradition of the Bumbling Vice-Prezzer. I believe he just gave Israel the okay to attack Iran this week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 So what I don't get, and yes I am sticking up for both Bush and Obama, but why are we blaming either of these idiot for the current economic issues. Seems like the whole world is a cluster !@#$. IMHO, the policies coming forth as of late will have long term bad effects, but short term, it sems like everything hit the crapper a year and a half ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Didn't the republicans have the 60 votes for the majority of those eight years? I don't know, and I don't see where it's relevent. The party in power leads. The party not in power bitches. The voters become convinced by the party not in power that their lives suck (because it's always easy to convince people that their lives could be better) and vote them into power. Lather, rinse, repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Didn't the republicans have the 60 votes for the majority of those eight years? No. Not even close. You have to go all the way back to the 1907-1909 Congress and the days of Teddy Roosevelt. In more recent decades, they were clearly in the minority up until 1995, with the Democrats averaging 56-44 advantage in the Senate and 260-175 in the House. The Republicans took control of both from 1995-2007, but it was a much thinner majority than the Democrats enjoyed: 1995 52-48 230-204 1997 55-45 226-207 1999 55-45 223-211 2001 49-51 221-212 2003 51-48 221-212 2005 55-44 231-202 Thus the Republicans never had close to a fillibuster-proof majority, and all legislation had to include some democratic crossover to get voted on. Starting in 2007 the Democrats took control - needless to say, we have not seen in our lifetimes what absolute control of the legislation process means. 2007 49-51 199-236 2009 40-60 178-257 So no, it isn't quite business-as-usual in a two party state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 No. Not even close. You have to go all the way back to the 1907-1909 Congress and the days of Teddy Roosevelt. In more recent decades, they were clearly in the minority up until 1995, with the Democrats averaging 56-44 advantage in the Senate and 260-175 in the House. The Republicans took control of both from 1995-2007, but it was a much thinner majority than the Democrats enjoyed: 1995 52-48 230-204 1997 55-45 226-207 1999 55-45 223-211 2001 49-51 221-212 2003 51-48 221-212 2005 55-44 231-202 Thus the Republicans never had close to a fillibuster-proof majority, and all legislation had to include some democratic crossover to get voted on. Starting in 2007 the Democrats took control - needless to say, we have not seen in our lifetimes what absolute control of the legislation process means. 2007 49-51 199-236 2009 40-60 178-257 So no, it isn't quite business-as-usual in a two party state. Thanks for the info. I was just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I especially love this quote ""This was supposed to be about jobs, jobs and jobs. And the fact is it turned into nothing more than spending, spending and more spending on a lot of big government bureaucracy," John Boehner of Ohio said." John - where is your plan to help out the economy? The biggest mystery to me in politics is how either John Boehner or Nancy Pelosi continually get elected. They are both useless and ignorant. The people who they represent must be embarrassed by them right? I know I would be. Why do these useless people continue to get elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 No. Not even close. You have to go all the way back to the 1907-1909 Congress and the days of Teddy Roosevelt. In more recent decades, they were clearly in the minority up until 1995, with the Democrats averaging 56-44 advantage in the Senate and 260-175 in the House. The Republicans took control of both from 1995-2007, but it was a much thinner majority than the Democrats enjoyed: 1995 52-48 230-204 1997 55-45 226-207 1999 55-45 223-211 2001 49-51 221-212 2003 51-48 221-212 2005 55-44 231-202 Thus the Republicans never had close to a fillibuster-proof majority, and all legislation had to include some democratic crossover to get voted on. Starting in 2007 the Democrats took control - needless to say, we have not seen in our lifetimes what absolute control of the legislation process means. 2007 49-51 199-236 2009 40-60 178-257 So no, it isn't quite business-as-usual in a two party state. Given what they did with the power they had, one has to be ecstatic that they didn't get a filibuster proof majority. That would have been catastrophic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The biggest mystery to me in politics is how either John Boehner or Nancy Pelosi continually get elected. They are both useless and ignorant. The people who they represent must be embarrassed by them right? I know I would be. Why do these useless people continue to get elected? To a grossly uninformed public, Boehner and Pelosi are the correct choice to most folks because they are recognizable names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 To a grossly uninformed public, Boehner and Pelosi are the correct choice to most folks because they are recognizable names. That and all politics are local. Nancy and Boner have been there for decades bringing home the bacon to the hungry sheeple, who are more than happy to send them back for another round at the government buffet table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 To a grossly uninformed public, Boehner and Pelosi are the correct choice to most folks because they are recognizable names. Same reason George Bush gets elected in 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 To a grossly uninformed public, Boehner and Pelosi are the correct choice to most folks because they are recognizable names. Seeing Pelosi is my representative (god that just makes me shudder to say that) I have a feeling I'm going to become more involved in politics than I ever had when she runs for re-election. It will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I thought he said they were going to test this guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 At least now we know what Dan Qualye would have been like as VP if he had first spent another 30 years in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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