stuckincincy Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 The fiber glass pools are different. At least with the new ones there is no linar to them. You can drain them. I wish I had a fiberglass one, those are sweet. Plus I heard they keep the heat in better. Is gunnite still used for in-ground pool construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Is gunnite still used for in-ground pool construction? They are not as popular anymore but you could still get them. The popular ones are the fiber glass now. Just dig a hole & they drop them in, one piece, they are pricey though. My friend just got one installed, pretty much just your basic model with 4 yards of concrete all the way around. Got a nice saline solution filter(no chemicals needed) Not totally sure how it works. Told me he paid a little north of $35K. When you consider it will be june 6th tomorrow & I have been in my pool once this year so far, that is a steep price to pay for the weather we have in WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Dude. I stopped reading after the "Pool is extremely dirty" part. I've been taking care of my pool/pools for almost 20 years. ITS !@#$ING EASY to do. Honestly. Save yourself some/ a shiit load money and spend a couple of hours a week taking care of your pool yourself. If I'm being harsh, John, Its because of Kobe and his extramarital affairs. I was actually trying to get stuff running and just clean the pool really good once....and then I was going to do it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 BOHICA Drain the pool, clean it and start from scratch. Once you get it going its easy to maintain. Also, if you have low pressure check the impeller in the pump, sometimes they get clogged. I have dont that aleady....got dirty quick.. This is the thing on the pool pressure....when I clean out the filter (cartridge filter) the flow is good for a while.....but dies off after a couple of days. I was thinking that the pool was SO DIRTY that the filters were becoming clogged again and again from stuff....I was trying to get a good cleaning done to see if that was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Sand or earth filter. If it's a sand filter, it might be time to change the sand. If it's an earth filter, might be time to have the filter elements cleaned. Also, you need to isolate the drop in water pressue in your system. It sounds like an in-ground pool. You'll need to pressure test your lines to see if there are any leaks. Just about any pool service can do that for you . . . From your description, it sounds like your "sucking air" on one of your intake lines. Starts out great, but slowly loses pressure over time. If it is an in-ground, that can be tricky to repair . . . Good luck. Hope all of the advice here helps. Is this the same as "blowing out" the lines? If so this pool guy did that a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 John, Good luck to you and god bless you, but why in the hell are you always in some kind of turmoil with every facet of life? LOL. I mean, cmon man, it seems that you and your children are always in some kind of earth shattering crisis. I do enjoy seeing your posts, so this isn't another one of the "stop posting all your drama stuff" but man. Cmon! God...if you think THIS is turmoil I dont want to scare you. I keep that stuff off the board....this is just looking for advise for other people who might have had the same problem.... No turmoil is your athete son blowing the chance at a full ride scholarship because he cant stay away from the females and dont care about his grades...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Is gunnite still used for in-ground pool construction? Yes, and it is by far the best for an in-ground pool. Problem is, it is also very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 BOHICA Drain the pool, clean it and start from scratch. Once you get it going its easy to maintain. Also, if you have low pressure check the impeller in the pump, sometimes they get clogged. I second that it has to be the impeller or motor itself malfunctioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 My father has had a inground fiberglass pool for over 30 years and he drains it all the time... He does pull the plug and relieves the pressure on the backside AND DOES NOT KEEP IT DRAINED FOR VERY LONG BEFORE REFILLING IT! It is a smaller pool and he claims he saves a ton on chemicals... And BTW, who wants overly chemmed up water! Two ways (actually 3 if you count getting NEW water, but that may fall under dillution) to handle bad water: 1. Treat it. 2. Dillute it. There isn't a single reason to drain a properly installed fiberglass pool and if you do drain it and something happens, I'll all but guarantee that the warranty is voided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 The fiber glass pools are different. At least with the new ones there is no linar to them. You can drain them. I wish I had a fiberglass one, those are sweet. Plus I heard they keep the heat in better. My fiberglass pool is less than 3 years old and if I drain it below the bottom of my skimmer it voids the warranty. I don't know where you're getting your information but that's not a correct statement as far as I know. The biggest benefit to fiberglass pools is they aren't porous. Nothing sticks to them and they are virtually maintenance free when properly maintained. They are also several times stronger than gunnite. I've never heard anything about "holding the heat in better". My fiberglass pool was by far the cheapest when compared to Vinyl and Concrete. It wasn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 My fiberglass pool is less than 3 years old and if I drain it below the bottom of my skimmer it voids the warranty. I don't know where you're getting your information but that's not a correct statement as far as I know. The biggest benefit to fiberglass pools is they aren't porous. Nothing sticks to them and they are virtually maintenance free when properly maintained. They are also several times stronger than gunnite. I've never heard anything about "holding the heat in better". My fiberglass pool was by far the cheapest when compared to Vinyl and Concrete. It wasn't even close. Yeah I am not sure about draining it. All I know is the guy at majestic told me that under no circumstances drain my pool(linar) because the linar will collapse. i thought you could drain them but I guess I am wrong. That is surprising about the price. I never looked into prices really because the house I bought had a pool in it already. I just know my friend bought a fiberglass one & paid a sh*t load of money for it last year. If those were the cheapest, can not imagine what the other types would cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Is gunnite still used for in-ground pool construction? Gunnite Chet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I'd highly recommend getting a subscription to Angies List ( http://www.angieslist.com ). I had some issues with bad contractors when I was finishing my basement. I signed up to Angies List, and every contractor from then on was great. Cheap service, and very well worth it IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Is this the same as "blowing out" the lines? If so this pool guy did that a few times. When i worked for a pool company in hs/college, blowing out the lines meant sending compressed air through the lines to blow out any garbage in them. A pressure test involved plugging all of the lined in the pool and then blowing in compressed air measured by a pressure guage. Plugged lines would hold the air pressure like a baloon. If there was a leak, you would see the air pressure steadily drop . . . With your description of the flow starting off strong and then dropping over the next few days, it certainly sound like a "leak." However, you won't see a lot of water loss because the leak is in one of the incoming lines, either the skimmer or the main drain (assuming you have one). Do you leave your pump and filter outdoors for the winter? Another common problem around here is that the pump basket housing cracks due to ice expaning. It's a small hairline crack, so it's not visible, but it will suck in air. I feel for you, cuz isolating the problem can be a real biotch . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 When i worked for a pool company in hs/college, blowing out the lines meant sending compressed air through the lines to blow out any garbage in them. A pressure test involved plugging all of the lined in the pool and then blowing in compressed air measured by a pressure guage. Plugged lines would hold the air pressure like a baloon. If there was a leak, you would see the air pressure steadily drop . . . With your description of the flow starting off strong and then dropping over the next few days, it certainly sound like a "leak." However, you won't see a lot of water loss because the leak is in one of the incoming lines, either the skimmer or the main drain (assuming you have one). Do you leave your pump and filter outdoors for the winter? Another common problem around here is that the pump basket housing cracks due to ice expaning. It's a small hairline crack, so it's not visible, but it will suck in air. I feel for you, cuz isolating the problem can be a real biotch . . . If John pays your airfare and lodging, will you go figure out what his problem is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Not sure what you have wher you live but here in Big D for about the same $250 I had a "consultant" flrom one of the supply places come to my house and he went over all of the care and maintenance for the pool. He showed me how all the components and how to care for them. suggestions regarding potential problem areas etc. I have now cared for the pool for 6 years. Your pressure problem sounds like either a leak (does your water level drop) or something blocking an impelller. Hard to say without knowing the particulars of your system. Sounds like the guy you have been working with is done with you - my guess is that he knows there is something wrong that he eiother can't fix or elects not to because of time and expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 Would the pressure on the guage be any indication of whether or not my pool has a leak (or not) For instance.....brushed the pool a couple of times......broke the cartige filter open cleaned out the filers....ran a wet back in the bottom to pick up any sand ect. Put it back together and had good water flow......dumped some chlorine and went to the gym/errands Came back in the afternoon....pump pressure was back up on the gauge.....water flow was way down......in less then a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Would the pressure on the guage be any indication of whether or not my pool has a leak (or not) For instance.....brushed the pool a couple of times......broke the cartige filter open cleaned out the filers....ran a wet back in the bottom to pick up any sand ect. Put it back together and had good water flow......dumped some chlorine and went to the gym/errands Came back in the afternoon....pump pressure was back up on the gauge.....water flow was way down......in less then a day. How old are the filters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Would the pressure on the guage be any indication of whether or not my pool has a leak (or not) For instance.....brushed the pool a couple of times......broke the cartige filter open cleaned out the filers....ran a wet back in the bottom to pick up any sand ect. Put it back together and had good water flow......dumped some chlorine and went to the gym/errands Came back in the afternoon....pump pressure was back up on the gauge.....water flow was way down......in less then a day. What are the starting and ending readings on the pressure gauge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 How old are the filters? Less then a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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