mousetrap08 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The Cowboys are shopping LB. Greg Ellis as per profootballtalk.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The Cowboys are shopping LB. Greg Ellis as per profootballtalk.com Roscoe and Kelsey for Ellis sounds fantastic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He's old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He's old. 34 to be exact. Thats ancient in the NFL no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Roscoe and Kelsey for Ellis sounds fantastic to me. I'm sure it does. Not as fantastic for the Cowboys however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He's old. I'd rather have a guy that's already collecting social security as long as it guaruntees Kelsay doesn't see the field this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'd rather have a guy that's already collecting social security as long as it guaruntees Kelsay doesn't see the field this season. I think Kelsay is overpaid, but clearly you think he's one of the top 60 DEs in football. You guys make it seem like he's the absolute worst starter at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I think Kelsay is overpaid, but clearly you think he's one of the top 60 DEs in football. You guys make it seem like he's the absolute worst starter at that position. That's the problem. There's no way he should be a starting defensive end in this league, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 That's the problem. There's no way he should be a starting defensive end in this league, IMO. Don't fret. By mideseason Maybin will take his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He's old but still has a year in him or so. The biggest question is how did he get along with TO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Don't fret. By mideseason the end of camp Maybin will take his job Fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He's old but still has a year in him or so. The biggest question is how did he get along with TO? Not sure if you want a serious answer or not, but... Much of the defense was reportedly in Owen's corner. One of the major beefs was that Romo was not 'coached up' after making a bonehead mistake. He would toss a pick, miss a read etc. and trot off to the sidelines and neither the HC or OC ever took him to task. That's Jerrah's doing. Meanwhile the defensive players felt that they did get 'coached up' after mistakes were made. IMO Romo would be a much better QB today had Parcells stayed in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamRoller67 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 When a defensive player hits the market, you need to determine if he's a 3-4 LB hybrid player or 4-3 DE or OLB. There's a huge difference. Ellis can't play the OLB spot in a 4-3 and he's not suited for DE in a 4-3. The Bills will have zero interest in him. He's a 3-4 player only at this point in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 When a defensive player hits the market, you need to determine if he's a 3-4 LB hybrid player or 4-3 DE or OLB.There's a huge difference. Ellis can't play the OLB spot in a 4-3 and he's not suited for DE in a 4-3. The Bills will have zero interest in him. He's a 3-4 player only at this point in his career. He was a very successful 4-3 DE I believe. He resisted a move to LB and he was successful there. I don't know how much he has in the tank and he's a bit of a clubhouse lawyer, but don't dismiss his abilities so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamRoller67 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He was a very successful 4-3 DE I believe. He resisted a move to LB and he was successful there. I don't know how much he has in the tank and he's a bit of a clubhouse lawyer, but don't dismiss his abilities so quickly. He played for the Jets and Cowboys...both 3-4 defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 He played for the Jets and Cowboys...both 3-4 defenses. At the end of the 2005-2006 football season, Ellis stated that he was not sure if he would return to the Dallas Cowboys due to decreased playing time, saying " "I just think obviously he (Bill Parcells) just feels that I don't fit into the scheme the way he wants me to fit, or I'm not that guy he's looking for." Parcells was changing the Cowboys' base defense from its traditional 4-3 scheme to the 3-4 scheme for which Parcells was noted; Ellis wasn't sure he could be productive as a 3-4 defensive end, as at 280 pounds, Ellis didn't have ideal size to take on stronger, heavier offensive tackles from an inside position. Ellis' snaps appeared to decrease down the stretch. His 121-game streak as a starter ended December 4 against the New York Giants when he was replaced in the lineup by rookie Chris Canty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 This is actually one player I wouldn't want the Bills to go after. Old and doesn't fit the scheme. Even for a seventh round pick I wouldn't pull the trigger on the deal. He is just not worth going after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 If we didnt have Maybin, who is allready slotted as the starter opposite of Schobel...then, yes I would take Ellis... I think his contract is outrageous, thats one of the main factors in him being traded from the 'Boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I just heard on ESPN that the Patriots* and the Bengals are interested in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haven Moses Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Blown achilles. I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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