Lori Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Well said!! Growing up I had to go to Mass on Saturday afternoon if I wanted to go to the game on Sunday. Small sacrifice to make. I should probably note here that some other faiths do not have the option of rescheduling their obligations for convenience. That said, I forget: did Sandy Koufax whine to the commissioner when the World Series conflicted with Yom Kippur, or did he merely choose to observe the holiday instead of pitching for the Dodgers that day? Sorry for the inconvenience, Jets fans. You can commiserate with the Titans fans who have to decide whether or not to go to their game on Christmas Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 I should probably note here that some other faiths do not have the option of rescheduling their obligations for convenience. That said, I forget: did Sandy Koufax whine to the commissioner when the World Series conflicted with Yom Kippur, or did he merely choose to observe the holiday instead of pitching for the Dodgers that day? Sorry for the inconvenience, Jets fans. You can commiserate with the Titans fans who have to decide whether or not to go to their game on Christmas Day. He dint pitch. but u new that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I should probably note here that some other faiths do not have the option of rescheduling their obligations for convenience. That said, I forget: did Sandy Koufax whine to the commissioner when the World Series conflicted with Yom Kippur, or did he merely choose to observe the holiday instead of pitching for the Dodgers that day? Sorry for the inconvenience, Jets fans. You can commiserate with the Titans fans who have to decide whether or not to go to their game on Christmas Day. A Reform Rabbi was so compulsive a golfer that once, on Yom Kippur, he left the house early and went out for a quick nine holes by himself. An angel who happened to be looking on immediately notified his superiors that a grievous sin was being committed. On the sixth hole, God caused a mighty wind to take the ball directly from the tee to the cup — a miraculous shot. The angel was horrified. "A hole in one!" he exclaimed, "You call this a punishment, Lord?!" Answered God with a sly smile, "So who can he tell?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 To which I say: screw 'em (the Jets, that is). Ain't the league's job to schedule around the religious needs of a portion of a team's fan base. Well...Buffalo threw a stink when their home schedule was heavy in the winter, saying its harder to sell tickets, so I can see where the Jets are coming from. In NYC, EVERYTHING gets planned around Jewish holidays, they're huge here. Although teams are forced to play on Christmas, so I see the NFL's side of this as well. However there's nothing that says you can't go to a football game on Christmas, there are "rules" with the Jewish faith and their holidays that might not allow fans to attend. Maybe somebody of jewish faith on here can elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Well...Buffalo threw a stink when their home schedule was heavy in the winter, saying its harder to sell tickets, so I can see where the Jets are coming from. In NYC, EVERYTHING gets planned around Jewish holidays, they're huge here. Although teams are forced to play on Christmas, so I see the NFL's side of this as well. However there's nothing that says you can't go to a football game on Christmas, there are "rules" with the Jewish faith and their holidays that might not allow fans to attend. Maybe somebody of jewish faith on here can elaborate. There are Jewish fans in EVERY NFL city. Why is New York so special? Is it somehow more correct to have the Eagles play home on both of those dates instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 There are Jewish fans in EVERY NFL city. Why is New York so special? Is it somehow more correct to have the Eagles play home on both of those dates instead? DUH. NYC is the center of the universe...ask anyone who lives there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 DUH. NYC is the center of the universe...ask anyone who lives there. It's not a stretch to say that there are a higher percentage of Jewish fans in NY than in say Nashville. That's just demographics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 DUH. NYC is the center of the universe...ask anyone who lives there. Why ask the natives? Everyone knows it's a fact... As for answering the question, the Jews aren't petitioning the NFL. They are telling the Jets that they won't attend the games, and Jets see dollars flowing out of the concession stands. It's not a big issue in other cities, because no other city has a higher population of Jews and no other team will likely have such a large crowd not attending. It's a Jets issue, not a Jewish issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 DUH. NYC is the center of the universe...ask anyone who lives there. No kidding. Actually, Philadelphia, which has a considerable Jewish population, has home games on both days as well. So does San Diego. SO DOES BUFFALO, and there are more than a few Jewish season ticket holders here. Where's the outrage? The OUTRAAAAAAAGE! Look, New York, it really isn't just about you. The High Holidays fall during football season, and every year, fans of some teams are going to be faced with this. This year, one of those teams is the Jets. Chances are that it won't happen again for a while. Drop it. The real problem is that by week 4, the Jets may be out of playoff contention, so these fans might be missing the best part of their season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Why ask the natives? Everyone knows it's a fact... As for answering the question, the Jews aren't petitioning the NFL. They are telling the Jets that they won't attend the games, and Jets see dollars flowing out of the concession stands. It's not a big issue in other cities, because no other city has a higher population of Jews and no other team will likely have such a large crowd not attending. It's a Jets issue, not a Jewish issue. You think there's any chance those games aren't sellouts? Want to wager on it? The Jets won't lose a dime. But they're based in New York, so they'll B word up a storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 A Reform Rabbi was so compulsive a golfer that once, on Yom Kippur, he left the house early and went out for a quick nine holes by himself. An angel who happened to be looking on immediately notified his superiors that a grievous sin was being committed. On the sixth hole, God caused a mighty wind to take the ball directly from the tee to the cup — a miraculous shot.The angel was horrified. "A hole in one!" he exclaimed, "You call this a punishment, Lord?!" Answered God with a sly smile, "So who can he tell?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Bernie Madoff is complaining that he can't go either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I agree so what if they miss those games there are still 6 others to chose from. It will suck though for Jewish season ticket holders The only ticket holders in NYC are season ticket holders. There are no individual game tickets available, except for buying from a broker or individual season ticket holder. Still I think it's kind of stupid to be complaining about it. If you're truly devoted to your religion, you shouldn't be concerned with a religious holiday coinciding with a football game. If you're not devoted to your religion, put a sock in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDaily Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 There are Jewish fans in EVERY NFL city. Why is New York so special? Is it somehow more correct to have the Eagles play home on both of those dates instead? There are jewish fans in every NFL city but their are more jewish people in the New York area than anywhere in the country. There are actually more Jews in the NYC area than in Israel! That is why it's a bigger deal in NY than elsewhere... There is a difference between Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashannah and Christmas.. As BillsNYC said if you are religious you can't do anything on these days especially go to a game let along watch it.. If you celebrate Christmas there is nothing to stop you from going to a game for religious reasons... Since Yom Kippur doesn't start until sundown on Sunday I bet the league will move the Sept. 27th game to 1pm. and they will be stuck with the Rosh Hashannah game. That being said everyone needs to make their own choices... I'm Jewish but I hardly practice... I will be watching both Bills games that weekend and may even make the trip to buffalo for one of those games... Others would choose not too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You think there's any chance those games aren't sellouts? Want to wager on it? The Jets won't lose a dime. But they're based in New York, so they'll B word up a storm. Every game is sold out, but you can't sell food & drinks to people who don't show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 There are as mny jews living in the NY tri-state area as there are in the entire rest of the country, I believe. So when you are talking about other cities, you are talking about a much smaller no. of fans, except for maybe Chicago. We are not talking about one game either,but two- 25% of the regular season schedule. With what the N.Y. teams charge for season tickets, these fans have a right to be upset. The teams and league should have been more sensitive. And by the way, how about a little more sensitivity here? WE are all football fans at the end of the day, Jew and gentile alike. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 There are as mny jews living in the NY tri-state area as there are in the entire rest of the country, I believe. So when you are talking about other cities, you are talking about a much smaller no. of fans, except for maybe Chicago. We are not talking about one game either,but two- 25% of the regular season schedule. With what the N.Y. teams charge for season tickets, these fans have a right to be upset. The teams and league should have been more sensitive. And by the way, how about a little more sensitivity here? WE are all football fans at the end of the day, Jew and gentile alike. Sheesh! Just to clarify: my comments are in no way anti-Semitic. I just wonder why New York has to be treated with kid gloves. Philadelphia has a huge Jewish population--larger than that of Chicago--but I don't hear complaints there. I have no problem if they move a game to 1pm. But NYC already gets special handling from the NFL with respect to scheduling because two teams share a stadium (which wouldn't be allowed anywhere else, either, while we're at it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I have no problem if they move a game to 1pm. But NYC already gets special handling from the NFL with respect to scheduling because two teams share a stadium (which wouldn't be allowed anywhere else, either, while we're at it). NJ actually actually gets special treatment but I agree with your point. it is no different than other religious holidays teams play games on. The NJests are complaining about it because it is a home game but should have thought about it before agreeing to share stadium with team (NJiants) who have more influence with NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 NJ actually actually gets special treatment but I agree with your point.it is no different than other religious holidays teams play games on. It is different, people of Jewish faith will not be permitted to attend these games. Its not like Catholics who can go to 9am mass and then head over to Lot 1 having met their commitment. They are not permitted to WATCH THE GAMES ON TV, let alone go to a football game on those days, and its pretty strict unless you're not a practicing Jew. Unless you live here you probably wouldn't be able to understand how influential the Jewish faith is in NYC.....I would liken it to no Polish people being able to attend the first two games in Buffalo nor watch on TV. Its a PR nightmare for the Jets, and I'm sure they're getting an earful from their fans. I can't blame them for trying to get the games moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 oh fricking well.. NFl has played on Christmas day .... religion has no business determining schedules. If you can't make it because of your beleifs that is an issue for you to deal with not the NFL Not only do they play on Christmas Day, the play the vast majority of their games on SUNDAY. The NFL and religion don't mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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