VOR Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 What is the "clarification?" Is this going to be just subject to a 15-yard penalty, or a suspension? If just the former, I'd still take the chance as a defender. If it's the latter, then the steps being taken to protect QB's are getting ridiculous. And this is more applicable to Wilfork, who got a 15-yard penalty anyway, than Pollard. Pollard didn't go for Brady's knees, or at least, wasn't unimpeded going after Brady. Morris was on his back as he hit Brady. It was analogous to a player blocking an opposing player into his punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If you read the article, that's what it says. It only is in effect when the QB has both feet on the ground. A simple reading of the rule would eliminate 3/4 of the posts on this thread. One or both feet, actually is what the article says. So some of those 3/4 are valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Cold Bruschi Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yeah this rule seems to arbitrary to me. As for Wilfork get over it he was thrown into JP, and we did you a favor by getting rid of him anyway, ushering your savior Edwards into the starting lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurt Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Wow, the offensive should start practicing how to push the defensive linemen to the ground. As long as we keep them on the ground, they can't touch the QB, unless they have 5 foot long wing span! What a great new rule! This will definitely help the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yeah this rule seems to arbitrary to me. As for Wilfork get over it he was thrown into JP, and we did you a favor by getting rid of him anyway, ushering your savior Edwards into the starting lineup He wasn't "thrown into JP." And Pollard didn't intentionally go after Brady's knee. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Next will be the Mary Poppins rule....where qb's will be able to bring out an umbrella when it's raining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Cold Bruschi Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 He wasn't "thrown into JP." And Pollard didn't intentionally go after Brady's knee. Get over it. I never said pollard's hit was dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Mud Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...tect_qbs_knees/ Is it even football anymore? So now Tom brady will wear a pink flag around his waist, if you pull it out you get credit for a sack. hey Tom join a powder puff league you homo!...i guess Vince Woolfork wont be taking out TE this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 It's funny that Kraft wasn't pushing for this when Wilfork did it to Losman just 1 year before. And I always thought Losman = Brady guess this proves me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...tect_qbs_knees/ Is it even football anymore? Well untill we gat a Pass Rush who Cares........ 24 Sacks last year.... Not a lot considering we had almost 1000 defensive plays....less than a percent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 To me, this pales in comparison to the new rule prohibiting defenders from throwing a shoulder or forearm at a player going over the middle for a pass, essentially ensuring yards after the catch and preventing defenders from doing their job. Next up: Five Mississippi calls for blitzes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 OK, you literally cannot touch a QBs head. We've all seen penalties called when the helmet is barely grazed by the hand/arm of a defender. You cannot finish a tackle on a QB; the defender must somehow try to let go on the way down. You cannot hit them below the knee. Not much left fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...tect_qbs_knees/ Is it even football anymore? SuuuUUUuuure. Where was this rule when JP was eating the turf 16 times a game? Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 What is the "clarification?" Is this going to be just subject to a 15-yard penalty, or a suspension? If just the former, I'd still take the chance as a defender. If it's the latter, then the steps being taken to protect QB's are getting ridiculous. And this is more applicable to Wilfork, who got a 15-yard penalty anyway, than Pollard. Pollard didn't go for Brady's knees, or at least, wasn't unimpeded going after Brady. Morris was on his back as he hit Brady. It was analogous to a player blocking an opposing player into his punter. Pollard was blocked to the ground, he was hit tangentially on his side by Morris. He then lunged at Brady's knee after the contact with Morris. He was not blocked or ridden into Brady. Review the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Here is an idea: Since Pollard's hit on Brady made this rule, how about we try something else Week 1, KO Brady for the year AGAIN, and then make another rule change??? I'm all for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Pollard was blocked to the ground, he was hit tangentially on his side by Morris. He then lunged at Brady's knee after the contact with Morris. He was not blocked or ridden into Brady. Review the tape. I've seen the tape plenty of times. But here it is again: Morris clearly pushes Pollard in the back as he gets up to go after Brady (at :05 seconds of above clip; freeze-frame it), while Brady steps-up in the pocket towards Pollard. Maybe another rule should be creted that an offensive player can't re-engage a defensive player after knocking him to the ground. It would make about as much sense as penalizing Pollard or anyone for a similar-such hit on a QB, even Brady again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I've seen the tape plenty of times. But here it is again: Morris clearly pushes Pollard in the back as he gets up to go after Brady (at :05 seconds of above clip; freeze-frame it), while Brady steps-up in the pocket towards Pollard. Maybe another rule should be creted that an offensive player can't re-engage a defensive player after knocking him to the ground. It would make about as much sense as penalizing Pollard or anyone for a similar-such hit on a QB, even Brady again. There is no question that he was re-engaged, and there is no question that he lunged. The only question is...why is that going to be illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 There is no question that he was re-engaged, and there is no question that he lunged. The only question is...why is that going to be illegal? Because it's Tom Freakin' Brady. Why else? Carson Palmer got hit by Kimo von Oelhoffen in the 2005 season playoffs and tore his ACL and MCL, and the rule about not hitting QB's at or below the knees unless blocked-into them (not dissimilar to how Pollard was pushed down into Brady knees) was created. Yet now there needs to be another change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I think a very strong case can now be made for Tom Brady as a first-ballot Hall of Famer...since between this, the tuck rule, and stealing signals he has clearly changed the way the game is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 There is no question that he was re-engaged, and there is no question that he lunged. The only question is...why is that going to be illegal? The tape shows he was engaged, on the ground, and then clearly lunged directly at Brady's leg below the knee. He was not "pushed" into Brady. Read Jeff Fisher's response at to why it will be illegal. Hey, does Jeff Fisher work for the Pats or is he simply brainwashed along with all of the other non-Pats on the rules committee? I think there needs to be an investigation into this---you know, how Kraft gets all the other owners and committees to do his bidding. Huge scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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