H2o Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 http://blog.pennlive.com/bobflounders/2009..._lowers_40.html The guy has added 25lbs of muscle to his frame. Look at the before and after photos. Wow. It almost makes you think that the guy is on "the juice". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 He does look much bigger. Much more muscle tone too. He's high risk, high reward. I really, really think he should've gone back for one more year. And if he put on the size and had double-digit sacks again, he'd go number one overall. Maybin appears to be more and more like the guy the Bills will take. And he's a Penn Stat-er. But who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 He had a horrid combine workout and ran kinda slow compared to his playing weight at 234,ran 4.89 at the combine.His weight now at his pro day was 252 and he ran 4.59 and 4.63 forty-yard dash times. This clearly puts him back into the bottom of the first round,it had looked liked he was slipping to the second round with that combine workout. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=5177 Still, I'm hoping the Bills pass on this guy simply because he only had one good year at Penn St and could be a huge bust, even if they plan on using him as an OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 http://blog.pennlive.com/bobflounders/2009..._lowers_40.html The guy has added 25lbs of muscle to his frame. Look at the before and after photos. Wow. It almost makes you think that the guy is on "the juice". Definitely is bigger....someone probably told him to either hit the juice or hit the weights if he wanted to be drafted in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 FWIW, here's the story those pictures are from. (I read it in the print edition yesterday ...) Maybin's makeover PSU star transforms body to prepare for NFL scouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 He had a horrid combine workout and ran kinda slow compared to his playing weight at 234,ran 4.89 at the combine.His weight now at his pro day was 252 and he ran 4.59 and 4.63 forty-yard dash times. This clearly puts him back into the bottom of the first round,it had looked liked he was slipping to the second round with that combine workout. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=5177 Still, I'm hoping the Bills pass on this guy simply because he only had one good year at Penn St and could be a huge bust, even if they plan on using him as an OLB. I don't think he ever slipped into Round 2 and I still think he's a top 15 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I can't make up my mind about Maybin. If he had gone back to college and had another great season, he would have been a lock for the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 that ain't natural! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 The reason I can't make up my mind about Maybin is because (again) there is almost no video on him. YouTube has virtually nothing. Seeing is believing. It's hard to evaluate a player based on watching only 200-300 plays. It's even harder when you only have access to 10-12. Other than written descriptions, I have no real sense of the player himself. There is much more video on Everette Brown, Brian Orakpo, and Robert Ayers than there is Aaron Maybin. That's the problem I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 He isn't a fit for this defense. He is a pass rushing LB in a 3-4 scheme. Even though he bulked up the way he did, I still can't see him rushing the passer while lined up with his hand down. He is definitely raw, and I think if he goes to the right team, he will not be asked to produce right away, maybe playing some spot duty here and there, but I still think he possesses more upside than any defensive player in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I don't think he ever slipped into Round 2 and I still think he's a top 15 pick. Only if a 3-4 team picks him... http://blog.pennlive.com/bobflounders/2009..._lowers_40.html The guy has added 25lbs of muscle to his frame. Look at the before and after photos. Wow. It almost makes you think that the guy is on "the juice". This article is bull sh--. "At the NFL scouting combine last month, Maybin's 40 time was in the mid-4.7 range" Wasn't it 4.89?? "The 6-4 Maybin has also gained 25 pounds since the middle of January, bulking up from 227 to 252." Everywhere I've read has him going from 234 to 249. "Maybin, the former PSU defensive end who declared for the NFL draft following his redshirt sophomore season, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.59 seconds this morning during PSU's Pro Day workout on campus." Yeah, right. Besides, he put on 25 lbs. in a month? That can't be healthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 He isn't a fit for this defense. He is a pass rushing LB in a 3-4 scheme. Even though he bulked up the way he did, I still can't see him rushing the passer while lined up with his hand down. He is definitely raw, and I think if he goes to the right team, he will not be asked to produce right away, maybe playing some spot duty here and there, but I still think he possesses more upside than any defensive player in the draft. Not saying Maybin is that guy, but the #11 pick is a great place to take a chance on a player with elite talent. The salary structure at the top of the draft prevents teams from taking a chance on players with the most upside. The #11 pick isn't an exorbitant contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 This article is bull sh--. "At the NFL scouting combine last month, Maybin's 40 time was in the mid-4.7 range" Wasn't it 4.89?? "The 6-4 Maybin has also gained 25 pounds since the middle of January, bulking up from 227 to 252." Everywhere I've read has him going from 234 to 249. "Maybin, the former PSU defensive end who declared for the NFL draft following his redshirt sophomore season, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.59 seconds this morning during PSU's Pro Day workout on campus." Yeah, right. Besides, he put on 25 lbs. in a month? That can't be healthy... Maybin's 40 at the combine was 4.78. NFLDraftScout.com For openers, the low starting weight. All season long, PSU listed the 6-4 Maybin at 245 pounds, but shortly before the Rose Bowl defensive coordinator Tom Bradley hinted that Maybin was closer to 235 than 245. "I really can't tell you why Aaron only weighed 227 pounds when he came to us," Saunders said. "And I don't know what he weighed at the start of the Penn State season, but I do know that guys tend to wear down at the end of a long season and that may have been the case with him." Direct quote from the trainer, and Flounders has been covering Maybin since he got to PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Maybin's 40 at the combine was 4.78.NFLDraftScout.com Not what I read... http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile...rospect_id=1721 http://www.nfldraftblogger.com/tag/aaron-maybin/ http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blog...te-edition.aspx http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-2...,0,808371.story http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/fa...t.htm?refresh=1 http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=3979777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 FWIW, here's the story those pictures are from. (I read it in the print edition yesterday ...) Maybin's makeover PSU star transforms body to prepare for NFL scouts Anyone else see this part: Count many Pittsburgh Steelers -- James Harrison, Heath Miller, Hines Ward -- and Baltimore Ravens among Saunders' clients. Another disciple is former PSU linebacker Paul Posluszny, who left the Buffalo, N.Y., area for Lancaster to train with Saunders for the past month. Posluszny, who is now in Pittsburgh working with some of Saunders' staff along with Harrison and Miller, doesn't seem like the kind to take shortcuts, does he? New and improved (physically) Poz as well? I've known people that ingested protein like this to add weight and muscle: "I started him with a high-protein breakfast, and he would have some selected carbs. Then he would drink something during his morning workout and he would have some protein drink right after his workout. Then he had a carb shake, some more protein for lunch. He would go do his running, drink another shake and then have a snack. Then he would eat dinner, have another shake and have a snack before he went to bed. They have the nastiest farts you will ever smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 A man weighing less than 250 pounds cannot add25 pounds of muscle in 3 months..naturally. We already have a Penn St. LB. That's plenty for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Not what I read... http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile...rospect_id=1721 http://www.nfldraftblogger.com/tag/aaron-maybin/ http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blog...te-edition.aspx http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-2...,0,808371.story http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/fa...t.htm?refresh=1 http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=3979777 Different stopwatches, maybe, although the final link in that list says 4.78. FWIW, NFLDraftScout is the site used by PFWA members, and supplies the official draft bios to the NFL media site. And Sports Illustrated reported 4.75 ... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...ders/index.html Notes: Speed and computer numbers or football skills? That's the question scouts must answer when deciding where a number of prospects they saw on Monday will end up in the draft. For example; a number of prospects ran poor 40 times including Michigan's Tim Jamison (5.03), Penn State's Aaron Maybin (4.75) and Brandon Walker of Texas Tech (4.94). Yet all three displayed terrific quickness, footwork and football skills during position drills. Does timed speed win out or do scouts go by what they saw the players accomplish once the football was brought onto the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Either way, that dude is fast and huge. I believe he will be our pick at #11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 http://blog.pennlive.com/bobflounders/2009..._lowers_40.html The guy has added 25lbs of muscle to his frame. Look at the before and after photos. Wow. It almost makes you think that the guy is on "the juice". If you're going to juice, now is the time do it. There's no testing in college as far as I know, and it's a few months before he'll be in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 His upper body is huge, but what about his legs? As an athlete you need powerful legs and a core to support both, not just chest and arms. His sluggish combine workouts indicate that he did not strengthen his legs enough to carry the upper body weight. As a college athlete I have seen first hand what happens to kids who put on a bunch of upper body muscle and ignore the lower body. Lets just say its not a pretty sight watching somebody built like Johnny Bravo run. There are not too many players who are bigger risks than Maybin in this coming draft. He is a completely different person now. He went from playing at a safetys wieght to a big LBs, with no tape on him to the latter. Very risky, too risky for 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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