Tipster19 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Now that TO is in the fold and outside of one more OL piece the offense appears to be all set. I just believe that to make this defense (Cover 2) work, we have to have consistent pressure on the opposing QB. It's time to utilize this secondary that we have heavily invested into. I'm expecting us to be taking DE Aaron Maybin at the #11 spot. It seems that Modrak and the rest of the Bills' scouts were paying a lot of attention to Maybin. Check out the Aaron Maybin news part from 2/27/09. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...&genpos=OLB http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1...b2-941c3fdad2b7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 hmmm, i have serious questions about maybin. However, if we draft him and he can add 5-6 sacks (combined with Schobel returning to his 10 sack self) we should be a top 10 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Like I posted in another thread: I hope the bills don't take Maybin expecting him to be anything but an OLB, the guy was 234 in collage and went up to 249 for the combine and stunk it up at a 15 LB heavier weight,the guy ran a 4.89. Mayock stating the heavier weight really hurt him and may drop him out of the first round,he was horrid in the 3 cone drill. Watch path to the draft on NFL network Scout.com has him as the 27th rated player Maybin is a playmaking defender who lacks the size necessary to be an every down DE, but he could become a tremendous force as a 3-4 OLB. He has a great frame, but has to add to add bulk to compete at the next level. He has a quick first step, uses his speed to his advantage and is able to harass the quarterback by using his long wingspan against a tackle. He moves well laterally and changes direction smoothly. - Chris Steuber, Scout.com http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&...900&yr=2009 Just to give you some insight, Aaron Curry ran a 4.56 40 Maybin really had only one good year (one year wonder) at Penn st and could be a huge bust Of course ESPN has Maybin at the 11th pick Mcshay and Kiper #10. So we will see who really knows players and who doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 hmmm, i have serious questions about maybin. However, if we draft him and he can add 5-6 sacks (combined with Schobel returning to his 10 sack self) we should be a top 10 defense. I agree Maybin is not a good fit here, he has shown that carrying the extra 15 lbs makes him slow. Personally Ayers is my pick at DE especially if we could get him in the second. Johnson from GT will be there in rd 2 and has more talent so my vote is Cushing or Raji in the first and DE in the second. Unless Orakpo slips to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubj04 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I agree I think Ayers would be a steal in the 2nd round and would love to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 hmmm, i have serious questions about maybin. However, if we draft him and he can add 5-6 sacks (combined with Schobel returning to his 10 sack self) we should be a top 10 defense. Schobel will never get 10 sacks in a season again. Sorry. Maybin will be a bust. He screams it. Listen to thewildrabbit. I want nothing to do with this guy. He can't be a 4-3 DE in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Now that TO is in the fold and outside of one more OL piece the offense appears to be all set. I just believe that to make this defense (Cover 2) work, we have to have consistent pressure on the opposing QB. It's time to utilize this secondary that we have heavily invested into. I'm expecting us to be taking DE Aaron Maybin at the #11 spot. It seems that Modrak and the rest of the Bills' scouts were paying a lot of attention to Maybin. Check out the Aaron Maybin news part from 2/27/09. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...&genpos=OLB http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1...b2-941c3fdad2b7 We still need a pass catcher at tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 What were the talking heads saying about Freeney before he was drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 What were the talking heads saying about Freeney before he was drafted? True that. I don't think Maybin will bust but he should've stayed in college one more year. If he got 10+ sacks again and put on weight, he'd be the top pick next year. He's raw but his pass rushing skills can't be denied. Upside and can be used situationally as a rookie on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 What were the talking heads saying about Freeney before he was drafted? That they were extremely impressed by his jaw-dropping speed (4.48 in the 40) and phenomenal first step. That even though he was undersized at 266 lbs., he was still big enough to play DE in a 4-3. Check it: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/colu...&id=3251338 Also, Freeney was much more productive in college, and for a longer time. Maybin is a one-year wonder who played at about 230 lbs. in college. Yeah, he weighed in at 249 at the combine, but he also ran a 4.78 in the 40. So he's still undersized, but now he's slow? Pass. To me, Maybin is exclusively an outside linebacker in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 That they were extremely impressed by his jaw-dropping speed (4.48 in the 40) and phenomenal first step. That even though he was undersized at 266 lbs., he was still big enough to play DE in a 4-3. Check it: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/colu...&id=3251338 Also, Freeney was much more productive in college, and for a longer time. Maybin is a one-year wonder who played at about 230 lbs. in college. Yeah, he weighed in at 249 at the combine, but he also ran a 4.78 in the 40. So he's still undersized, but now he's slow? Pass. To me, Maybin is exclusively an outside linebacker in a 3-4. I thought the only knock on Freeney was his height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 That they were extremely impressed by his jaw-dropping speed (4.48 in the 40) and phenomenal first step. That even though he was undersized at 266 lbs., he was still big enough to play DE in a 4-3. Check it: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/colu...&id=3251338 Also, Freeney was much more productive in college, and for a longer time. Maybin is a one-year wonder who played at about 230 lbs. in college. Yeah, he weighed in at 249 at the combine, but he also ran a 4.78 in the 40. So he's still undersized, but now he's slow? Pass. To me, Maybin is exclusively an outside linebacker in a 3-4. Maybin was a liability against the run as well in college. For all the heat Schobel takes, he's decent to pretty good against the run. I agree re: the comparisons to Freeney. DF was a physical freak with a great first step who put on weight from college to the pros and didn't lose much speed. Maybin on the other seems to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Maybin was a liability against the run as well in college. For all the heat Schobel takes, he's decent to pretty good against the run. I agree re: the comparisons to Freeney. DF was a physical freak with a great first step who put on weight from college to the pros and didn't lose much speed. Maybin on the other seems to have. You're right, for a guy who plays at 240lbs Schobel does well against the run. I've seen him chase down a few RBs and turn the play back inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemhoff Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Maybin, for some reason, reminds me of the guy the Jets took last year with their first rd. pick. That guy had a horrible rookie season and proved that maybe another year in college would have been best. What was that dudes name?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Now that TO is in the fold and outside of one more OL piece the offense appears to be all set. I just believe that to make this defense (Cover 2) work, we have to have consistent pressure on the opposing QB. It's time to utilize this secondary that we have heavily invested into. I'm expecting us to be taking DE Aaron Maybin at the #11 spot. It seems that Modrak and the rest of the Bills' scouts were paying a lot of attention to Maybin. Check out the Aaron Maybin news part from 2/27/09. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...&genpos=OLB http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1...b2-941c3fdad2b7 I'm hearing the Bills are most interested in Orakpo, but are also intrigued by Maybin. I didn't get to see much of Orakpo (and I'm still waiting for Bluefire to return my PM about him ), but liked what I saw. I liked Maybin, too...but thought it was stupid of him to come out, this year. I don't know if he is quite NFL-ready. He has a big upside, but is a little risky, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Maybin, for some reason, reminds me of the guy the Jets took last year with their first rd. pick. That guy had a horrible rookie season and proved that maybe another year in college would have been best. What was that dudes name?? Vernon Gholston. Workout warrior and now busting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Maybin, for some reason, reminds me of the guy the Jets took last year with their first rd. pick. That guy had a horrible rookie season and proved that maybe another year in college would have been best. What was that dudes name?? Vernon Gholston from Ohio State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 That they were extremely impressed by his jaw-dropping speed (4.48 in the 40) and phenomenal first step. That even though he was undersized at 266 lbs., he was still big enough to play DE in a 4-3. Check it: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/colu...&id=3251338 Also, Freeney was much more productive in college, and for a longer time. Maybin is a one-year wonder who played at about 230 lbs. in college. Yeah, he weighed in at 249 at the combine, but he also ran a 4.78 in the 40. So he's still undersized, but now he's slow? Pass. To me, Maybin is exclusively an outside linebacker in a 3-4. Thank you...there is absolutely no way you can compare this guy to Freeney, more like E. Flowers. But listening to comments from DC Fewel stating that a situational player for the defense is more likely the case, has me leaning toward a player like M. Johnson (Ga. Tech). He can plays the SAM , then move to the DE in pass situation. Its the same as he did at Ga. Tech. The link show the versatility of this guy IMO, with a creative approach late in the 2008 season, Ga. Tech DC dropped him in coverage just to show more sides of this athletic phenom. If we're looking for a situation pass rusher, he definitely has to be in the discussion. Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzKWDGf5-Hc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 If we daft a DE with our 1st round choice God knows I hope it isn't Maybin. He will not translat into an NFL DE. I do not see it at all. Orakpo would be my first choice as our DE. If Orakpo is gone, I'd take Brown. If Orakpo and Brown are gone, I take Michael Johnson(I still think that he could be the best of the group depending on his heart and work ethic). If those 3 are off the board, I try like heck to trade down in the first and take Ayers wherever we can slide to if we're that bent on a DE in the 1st. No way, no how would I consider Maybin unless he fell to us in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLACK23 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Now that TO is in the fold and outside of one more OL piece the offense appears to be all set. I just believe that to make this defense (Cover 2) work, we have to have consistent pressure on the opposing QB. It's time to utilize this secondary that we have heavily invested into. I'm expecting us to be taking DE Aaron Maybin at the #11 spot. It seems that Modrak and the rest of the Bills' scouts were paying a lot of attention to Maybin. Check out the Aaron Maybin news part from 2/27/09. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...&genpos=OLB http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1...b2-941c3fdad2b7 I hope brian orakpo is still there at 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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