AJ1 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Just found Marquis Cooper alive according to St. Petersburg channel 10. Great news, if true. His poor wife was suffering immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Great news. Hopefully they find the other two as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Cooper is NOT confirmed as found/alive. a Tampa TV station erroneously told the family he had been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Cooper is NOT confirmed as found/alive. a Tampa TV station erroneously told the family he had been found. Dont you just love the media? Freakin Retards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Cooper is NOT confirmed as found/alive. a Tampa TV station erroneously told the family he had been found. OMG. I would hate to have to explain that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 OMG. I would hate to have to explain that one. theyre news media. accountable to no one except ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Don't know all the details of this - but were the weather conditions that day bad enough that they shouldn't have gone? I assume it is the captain's responsibility to check the weather and make sure everything is safe - is it common for these kind of charters for the owners/captains to take chances? (we go to the coast a lot, and I have gone on a few onshore charters - but I am always wary of the ones that go way out just because of something like this...) It was a 21 ft center console fishing boat owned by one of the players. the most experienced boater was the player who didnt own the boat. weather was nice when they left, but turned bad during the evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 way too small a boat for those conditions, that far out at sea, with 4 people in it. Bad judgement. This comes from a fellow fisherman. Very sad news. Well the silver lining was one person was saved Thanks for the clarification .... thoughts and prayers go out for the families of those who were lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 the movie star, the professor & mary ann, here on Gilligan's Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 They were, according to the guy who was rescued. http://www.freep.com/article/20090302/SPOR...linging+to+side That is good!! And like the fellas above you, they had good questions about the vessel and the equipment... No way do I go 50 miles off-shore in a 21' vessel! And if I did... I would have an EPIRB or a man overboard system... Or one of these: CrewSaver Not exactly chump change to gear your rig in this manner... But, these guys are loaded and could afford to not take as much of a risk. Now... I am not sure... They may have been closer, but a that is a near-shore vessel that some are reporting was 50... YES 50 MILES OUT. Maybe they didn't know the "1/3 Rule" for fuel usage: "1/3 out, 1/3 back, and 1/3 in reserve." They could have been in deep doo-doo if something happened and they only had one motor. Anyway... Sad... Yet, I would like to know all the facts. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Also marine band two-way radio? Also, an Emergency Position Indicating Radiobeacon, or EPIRB Betcha this could have been avoided. Makes it doubly sad. Unfortunately people don't realize the amount of trouble their in until some serious sh-t hits the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 ? How many people do you think an average 21' vessel is rated for... About 10 maybe and that is extremley pushing it... Now take into consideration these were your average 180 pound persons... They were football players... So the weight limit could have been appoaching the vessel capacity... Even if it was rated for 10 people or so. The point is, it is bad karma and to wander far off-shore... I hate when people make fatal errors in judgement like this! It is a real shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Unfortunately people don't realize the amount of trouble their in until some serious sh-t hits the fan. That's the beauty of some EPIRB's, the class I ones I believe are automatic. They send out a distress signal with location immediately. My brother has one and I think he paid about $300, maybe a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 How many people do you think an average 21' vessel is rated for... About 10 maybe and that is extremley pushing it... Now take into consideration these were your average 180 pound persons... They were football players... So the weight limit could have been appoaching the vessel capacity... Even if it was rated for 10 people or so. The point is, it is bad karma and to wander far off-shore... I hate when people make fatal errors in judgement like this! It is a real shame. I highly doubt they were pushing the weight limit with four of them. They might have done something stupid and tied the anchor off at the stern though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Unfortunately people don't realize the amount of trouble their in until some serious sh-t hits the fan. EXACTLY! People hit the water like they are taking I-80 to Cali... Then they get 13 miles or so out (horizon line) and bing they think their cell phone will work... Even know we are a very interconnected world, the water is still very much like the Donner party heading over the Sierra's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Amazing that they found one of them alive. That's almost a miracle. As for the rest, any word on if they were wearing life jackets? I presume the Gulf waters are warm enough to survive in for a couple days if they wore life vests and were able to get through the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I highly doubt they were pushing the weight limit with four of them. They might have done something stupid and tied the anchor off at the stern though. Or not had enough anchor "scope." The line for the anchor depending upon conditions can be recommended to be 7 times the depth of the water. In big swells and heavy chop you might not want to be anchored at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I highly doubt they were pushing the weight limit with four of them. They might have done something stupid and tied the anchor off at the stern though. Maybe... Now factor in fast turning seas. That motor on a 21' vessel could have been easily swamped. Now you have 4 guys, far from shore (hope they at least had off-shore vests which would give them a fighting chance) in rough seas. They would have been better off setting off in the life raft than a 21' vessel. Really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Tampa news story does say men were wearing life jackets. The nice thing is they could float for days in those waters without hypo setting in. This is very encouraging news... My bet they at least find the other... Pray to God alive!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 OMG. I would hate to have to explain that one. That is why you should NOT call them "life jackets"... There is no guarantee that it will save your life. Find your body yes... But, not save your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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