Bmwolf21 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 And you're basing that statement on...what, exactly? The fact that oil companies make money? Christ, you people act as if no one else on the planet uses oil. You want the price to drop? Nuke China. Then we won't have to compete with them for the oil. I'm on board. When can we scramble the bombers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 And I nominate you for the "whiney B word of the thread" award (hardly new territory for you). I feel so bad that you bought a gas guzzler and now have to pay $70 to fill it up. If you don't like it, feel free to take the bus. Wow, Kev...really? You know I respect you and think you're a pretty smart guy, but it's sad that you've managed to miss the point TWICE in this thread. First, you equated someone who said "it's a great time to be in the top 1%" with "its not worth it to be alive otherwise." Brilliant. Then you think I was whining about gas prices when I was just laughing about you and LA (both otherwise reasonably intelligent people) blowing that statement out of proportion with your hyperbolic bullsht. I could give a sht if gas goes to $10/gallon. Like Stojan said, it doesn't change how I drive. I was just commenting on how crazy I think it is that a vehicle that cost $40 to fill 16 months ago costs $70. And where did I say I own a gas guzzler? C'mon you're better than this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 The fact that our dollar is in the tank and we felt the need to invade the middle east has a hell of a lot more to do with it than the Chinese, although they are becoming an increasingly large factor. You have a point about the dollar. It's why I look at oil prices against the euro...and guess what? It's increasing. Judging by the divergence of oil prices in dollars vs. euros, it looks like the dollar's weakening is responsible for maybe 30% of the current price in dollars. Strikes me that whatever's responsible for the other 70% has a "hell of a lot more to do with it" than the 30% due to the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 You have a point about the dollar. It's why I look at oil prices against the euro...and guess what? It's increasing. Judging by the divergence of oil prices in dollars vs. euros, it looks like the dollar's weakening is responsible for maybe 30% of the current price in dollars. Strikes me that whatever's responsible for the other 70% has a "hell of a lot more to do with it" than the 30% due to the dollar. I am a rather simplistic fellow, but I looked at commodities about 2 years ago, looked at the how fast some the "developing" economy's were actualy developing, and said energy and raw material of all kinds just have to go up over the next 5 years. I certainly did not see oil at $124, but I wanted to prtect my backside a little bit, hence my commodity funds. I do think the dollar obviously has an effect, but simple supply and demand to me at least dictate that prices for all commodities, including food, have a wyas to go yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 there is NO NEED for gas to be this expensive other than the fact they know we're addicted to it. I use the Gas Patch. Really helds me with my addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 my girl is on the table getting implants today, so im not complaining. im just speaking on current economic situations. Seriously? You're complaining about rising gas prices and the rich getting richer, but then exercise the fiscal judgement to throw out your hard earned money for a pair of fun bags that some other dude will probably be enjoying 5-10 years from now? Way to prioritize, my friend . Those evil rich guys are usually smart enough to know that the money comes before the women...not after. See: Scarface, the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I use the Gas Patch. Really helds me with my addiction. That's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 you guys are out of your minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Seriously? You're complaining about rising gas prices and the rich getting richer, but then exercise the fiscal judgement to throw out your hard earned money for a pair of fun bags that some other dude will probably be enjoying 5-10 years from now? Way to prioritize, my friend . Those evil rich guys are usually smart enough to know that the money comes before the women...not after. See: Scarface, the movie. im not paying for them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 you guys ASS-U-ME a lot around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 you guys ASS-U-ME a lot around here Is that an online way of tapping your toes between bathroom stalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Wow, Kev...really? You know I respect you and think you're a pretty smart guy, but it's sad that you've managed to miss the point TWICE in this thread. First, you equated someone who said "it's a great time to be in the top 1%" with "its not worth it to be alive otherwise." Brilliant. Then you think I was whining about gas prices when I was just laughing about you and LA (both otherwise reasonably intelligent people) blowing that statement out of proportion with your hyperbolic bullsht. I could give a sht if gas goes to $10/gallon. Like Stojan said, it doesn't change how I drive. I was just commenting on how crazy I think it is that a vehicle that cost $40 to fill 16 months ago costs $70. And where did I say I own a gas guzzler? C'mon you're better than this... Ok, so perhaps I overreacted a bit (must have thought I was on PPP). My apologies. However, I think people have blown the gas price thing way out of proportion. Sure it's been a rapid increase, but we got away with murder in this country for years and years with dirt cheap gas and now it's finally evening out. And I didn't see much reason for someone to post the '1% comment' in a gas thread (after all, isn't it obvious that it's always a great time to be alive if you are rich?), unless I could reasonably infer that he was looking for some pity about the affordability of gas. And as you and stojan correctly point out, if it were really that expensive, people would change their behavior. I've posted the stats about carpools and public transportation here several times, but no one is interested in that. They'd prefer to swallow the politicians b.s. that if we 'do something' about evil oil companies, everything will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Ok, so perhaps I overreacted a bit (must have thought I was on PPP). My apologies. However, I think people have blown the gas price thing way out of proportion. Sure it's been a rapid increase, but we got away with murder in this country for years and years with dirt cheap gas and now it's finally evening out. And I didn't see much reason for someone to post the '1% comment' in a gas thread (after all, isn't it obvious that it's always a great time to be alive if you are rich?), unless I could reasonably infer that he was looking for some pity about the affordability of gas. And as you and stojan correctly point out, if it were really that expensive, people would change their behavior. I've posted the stats about carpools and public transportation here several times, but no one is interested in that. They'd prefer to swallow the politicians b.s. that if we 'do something' about evil oil companies, everything will be ok. Agreed...on pretty much all counts. People took the amazing prices we had for years for granted. I used to always say "At least we're not in Europe" everytime I saw a noticable price increase. Five years ago if you had told me that gas would be 4.00/gallon, I would have told you that people would have totally changed their behavior towards fuel consumption. And while it has happened to some degree (hybrids finally becoming mainstream, SUVs littering the classifieds, etc.) it really isn't the anywhere near the level I would have expected. I guess I just underestimated the price that would represent a breaking point. For all I know now, people won't stop until gas reaches 7-8 dollars/gallon....maybe more. Until then it's just another thing we deal with that has gotten more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Florida votes matter. (and you can thank Jeb Bush and Mel Martinez for helping deliver it). If Al Gore was President. As for me, just a couple weeks ago I filled my work van, a GMC Savanna, $99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Is that an online way of tapping your toes between bathroom stalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 It's All Bush's Fault!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 im not paying for them!! Then who is, the guy who will enjoy them in 5-10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetbaboo Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Then who is, the guy who will enjoy them in 5-10 years? if that's the case, he'll just get a new younger one without having to lose money during a trade-in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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