scribo Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I know the investigation into the shooting at Marvin Harrison's club is in the infant stages, but with the revelation that bullet casings at the crime scene are from the very talented wide receiver's gun, has Marvin earned a spot on the list of outstanding NFL players who've been involved in serious crimes? I think so. A quick list I can put together includes: Ray Lewis Michael Vick Pac-Man Jones Rae Carruth Lawrence Phillips Jamal Lewis Joey Porter and O.J. I didn't include Tank Johnson or Chris Henry because I don't really view them as ever being outstanding NFL players. Can anyone think of others belonging to this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 If you didn't include Tank Johnson or Henry as "outstanding" players why would Rae Carruth and Lawrence Phillips be on that list....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 If you didn't include Tank Johnson or Henry as "outstanding" players why would Rae Carruth and Lawrence Phillips be on that list....? Good question, and I have reasons. First, Carruth did lead all rookies in catches, yards and touchdowns in the only full season he played, actually only 14 games. Second, his crime was so heinous that he gets on my list no matter what. As for Phillips, I don't have much of a defense other than I think he was one of the best college RBs of all time, and Dick Vermeil called Phillips the best running back he had ever coached. Phillips was an outstanding player, but his behaviour and attitude problems kept him from showing it in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 If you didn't include Tank Johnson or Henry as "outstanding" players why would Rae Carruth and Lawrence Phillips be on that list....? Or Pac-Man Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Good question, and I have reasons. First, Carruth did lead all rookies in catches, yards and touchdowns in the only full season he played, actually only 14 games. Second, his crime was so heinous that he gets on my list no matter what. As for Phillips, I don't have much of a defense other than I think he was one of the best college RBs of all time, and Dick Vermeil called Phillips the best running back he had ever coached. Phillips was an outstanding player, but his behaviour and attitude problems kept him from showing it in the NFL. Gotcha, your post about Carruth's crime just made me go back and read over exactly what happened again since it's been so long. What an unbelievable thing to do to any woman, let alone the woman that is carrying your two children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I know the investigation into the shooting at Marvin Harrison's club is in the infant stages, but with the revelation that bullet casings at the crime scene are from the very talented wide receiver's gun, has Marvin earned a spot on the list of outstanding NFL players who've been involved in serious crimes? I think so. A quick list I can put together includes: Ray Lewis Michael Vick Pac-Man Jones Rae Carruth Lawrence Phillips Jamal Lewis Joey Porter and O.J. I didn't include Tank Johnson or Chris Henry because I don't really view them as ever being outstanding NFL players. Can anyone think of others belonging to this list? OJ & Carruth should top the list just ahead of Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Or Pac-Man Jones? Pac Man is an IDIOT but you can't deny his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 OJ & Carruth should top the list just ahead of Lewis Perhaps you should do some research on Ray Lewis before you suggest he belongs anywhere NEAR the likes of OJ and Carruth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 his crime was so heinous What is so heinous about drive- by's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOUTBOX MONSTER! Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Perhaps you should do some research on Ray Lewis before you suggest he belongs anywhere NEAR the likes of OJ and Carruth. Oh, okay. Ray Lewis was the only person that actually admitted to involvement in that double murder. He also reached a settlement to pay one of the victims families over a million dollars before it went to a civil trial. There's the research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 What is so heinous about drive- by's Uh, the "drive-by" victims were his ex-girlfriend who was eight months pregnant and the couple's unborn twins. Yeah, I am not sure how you define heinous, but that fits mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Perhaps you should do some research on Ray Lewis before you suggest he belongs anywhere NEAR the likes of OJ and Carruth. His posse was involved in the DEATH of a person from my understanding. Why don't you enlighten us all & fill us in on the details- LINK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Uh, the "drive-by" victims were his ex-girlfriend who was eight months pregnant and the couple's unborn twins. Yeah, I am not sure how you define heinous, but that fits mine. www.dictionary.com + irony = :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Oh, okay. Ray Lewis was the only person that actually admitted to involvement in that double murder. He also reached a settlement to pay one of the victims families over a million dollars before it went to a civil trial. There's the research. I still believe he actually used the knife, he was not an innocent bystander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Oh, okay. Ray Lewis was the only person that actually admitted to involvement in that double murder. He also reached a settlement to pay one of the victims families over a million dollars before it went to a civil trial. There's the research. Read this article. I don't care whether you believe every word or not, but the "points" you made are not valid. SI Vault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 His posse was involved Oh dag, I forgot about his posse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Pac Man is an IDIOT but you can't deny his talent. He had the potential to be great, but I don't think he did anything in his short time in the NFL so far to consider him outstanding like the original post says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 He had the potential to be great, but I don't think he did anything in his short time in the NFL so far to consider him outstanding like the original post says He did lead the league in return yards and TD returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I know the investigation into the shooting at Marvin Harrison's club is in the infant stages, but with the revelation that bullet casings at the crime scene are from the very talented wide receiver's gun, has Marvin earned a spot on the list of outstanding NFL players who've been involved in serious crimes? I think so. A quick list I can put together includes: Ray Lewis Michael Vick Pac-Man Jones Rae Carruth Lawrence Phillips Jamal Lewis Joey Porter and O.J. I didn't include Tank Johnson or Chris Henry because I don't really view them as ever being outstanding NFL players. Can anyone think of others belonging to this list? I agree to OJ being on your list ONLY if it's because of the Vegas incident. As far as the other thing, he was innocent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I know the investigation into the shooting at Marvin Harrison's club is in the infant stages, but with the revelation that bullet casings at the crime scene are from the very talented wide receiver's gun, has Marvin earned a spot on the list of outstanding NFL players who've been involved in serious crimes? I think so. A quick list I can put together includes: Ray Lewis Michael Vick Pac-Man Jones Rae Carruth Lawrence Phillips Jamal Lewis Joey Porter and O.J. I didn't include Tank Johnson or Chris Henry because I don't really view them as ever being outstanding NFL players. Can anyone think of others belonging to this list? With some research we can expand the list by 50-fold I'm sure. The commish has a lot of job security given the behavior of so many NFL players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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