Astrobot Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I'd rather use draft picks on DT, DE, and WR than Offensive line. Here are 2 Free Agents I would want: Source Leonard Davis UFA Arizona Cardinals "Davis is a massive tackle that the Cardinals can’t afford to lose to free agency, but it seems likely that they will." Max Starks RFA Pittsburgh Steelers "Starks is a starting tackle for a Super Bowl champion. That’s enough in itself to get some teams a little excited about the prospects of acquiring him. The fact that Starks is young, talented, and massive in stature—listed at 6’8”, 337 lbs.—just adds to the excitement pile. Another lineman that shouldn’t be going anywhere as the Steelers will not let Starks go without a fight." Starks won't be going anywhere, and Davis will command a high price. Gandy is also a UFA, and we'd have to think about how to spend our money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I'd rather use draft picks on DT, DE, and WR than Offensive line.Here are 2 Free Agents I would want: Source Leonard Davis UFA Arizona Cardinals "Davis is a massive tackle that the Cardinals can’t afford to lose to free agency, but it seems likely that they will." Max Starks RFA Pittsburgh Steelers "Starks is a starting tackle for a Super Bowl champion. That’s enough in itself to get some teams a little excited about the prospects of acquiring him. The fact that Starks is young, talented, and massive in stature—listed at 6’8”, 337 lbs.—just adds to the excitement pile. Another lineman that shouldn’t be going anywhere as the Steelers will not let Starks go without a fight." Starks won't be going anywhere, and Davis will command a high price. Gandy is also a UFA, and we'd have to think about how to spend our money. 860734[/snapback] Starks is a beast, i wanted him badly the year he came out. I'd love to get a guy with the nickname of the undertaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Davis has been called an undertaker too, but not in the same word as in: Davis is an underachiever who takes the team down with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Without really having studied his OL play, I would consider Leonard Davis to be the model for the Mike Williams mold. A massive OT who plays a lot of OG, finally played some LT, I think. Wasn't Davis the #2 pick in the draft? Seems like a horrendous underachiever to me, and not a guy I would spend big bucks for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I've heard a lot of Steelers fans really unhappy with Starks this year. Some saying that they might draft a right tackle prospect in the first round because of it. I'm not really thrilled about either of these guys. They're both huge, and not all that great and will be well overpaid on the open market for playing RT. Gandy I would resign. I'm not sure what his plans are, but I doubt any teams will be wanting to have him as their starting tackle. He'd be virtually assured a starting job at LG if he stayed here. I wouldn't think that he would be that expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Davis is a massive guard playing tackle but he does have the ability to move. If you wanted to build a run blocking offensive line he's a guy Id definitely go after but as a guard. I'll assume any chance of getting starks would be nill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Both of those guys are notorious underachievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I am interpreting correctly that according to the article Starks, Davis and Gandy are the top 3 FA linemen? Over guys like Steinbach, Dielman, and Manuwai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I am interpreting correctly that according to the article Starks, Davis and Gandy are the top 3 FA linemen? Over guys like Steinbach, Dielman, and Manuwai? 860902[/snapback] Yea, I'm not so sure that football's future knows what they're talkin 'bout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 What is wrong with our current pair of tackles? Has Peters not been doing a very good job? And, Pennington... 6'7" 320? Are you ready to give up on him? What's he done that's so bad? A rookie 6th rounder? .... do you expect that he should make the pro bowl in his rookie season after starting only half the season? Is that reasonable? You don't think he has a big upside. What upside do Davis and Starks have? The Bills could use a guard... and Merz could eventually supplant Fowler at Center. The only thing Fowler lacks is about 15 or 20 lbs. I'd settle fro 10 lbs. if it doesn't affect his speed, quickness and athletcism. Butler... at 6'8" 320 is said to have a nasty streak, good athletcism, and a basketball background. And, coming out of U VA. with Al Groh as his coach... he has been groomed for the pro game. So, he's got a bonafide shot. The Bills 3 biggest needs are a big run stuffing DT, a real RB, and a WR to compliment Evans. After that G, CB, DE, TE, LB. A QB that could really challenge JP would also be a good thing. Holcomb is merely a dinker/dunker weenie armed POS. And, Nall? who the hell knows what he can do. When you rank 31st on defense, I think it is blatantly clear what you musy shore up. But, at the same time, the offense is extremely boring. So much so that they can't even sell out their last 4 home games. To avoid this again next year, Ralph will pickup a marquis offensive player or two, in the form of a RB first and then a WR. Jauron is all about having his team in position to control it's own destiny in the last 5 minutes of a ball game. Therefore, the defense must make a quantum leap because Jauron will not risk removing the handcuffs from the offense unless the defense can prove it can shutdown the opposition. Lastly... the biggest single move I think this team can make that would make a huge impact immediately is to get a running back that hits the hole quickly, wants, the ball, and can catch. Damn, what a difference maker like Mike Hart would be... please come out this year Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 My FA pickups would be Steinbach and Dielman. I like our tackles, specially Peters. Pennington is a work in progress, though if we can improve this position in the draft (early) I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Seems to me like you build an offensive line by drafting them in the 3rd and 4th rounds. And maybe adding a first rounder to the mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFLstyle Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 You can't hit a hole that isn't there, you say we need a RB and not any improvements on the Oline? whatever you're smoking I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Davis would be a great fit at RG............he was labled a dominator there before moving to tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFLstyle Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Davis would be a great fit at RG............he was labled a dominator there before moving to tackle. 861036[/snapback] but didn't you hear? It's not the oline, it's Willis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 The article seems to be completely unaware that Gandy is no longer the Bills' left tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Being from Pittsburgh I see this Starks kid a lot. He's surprisingly not bad, he gets beat by some of the speedier DE's occasionally, and those seem to be the only shots that get taken at him. Other than that, I saw him make a joke out of Ray Lewis, which is saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadlox Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Starks is a beast, i wanted him badly the year he came out. this board is not the place for those type of remarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 but didn't you hear? It's not the oline, it's Willis 861037[/snapback] The argument you will generally find against Willis (on this board) is not that he is the sole source of the problem. But that he isn't helping matters due to his lack of effort and hunger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeeyed Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 dr. tooth, lay off the laughing gas brother. drafting a RB before another WR? are you freakin nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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