eball Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 TB is down 20-0 and has a 4th down at the PIT 10 with 5 seconds to go. He kicks a FG. Is it me, or is that one of the lamest decisions a coach can make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 He probably didn't want any injuries or didn't want to be shut out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 He probably didn't want any injuries or didn't want to be shut out. 856016[/snapback] The first part of your response is idiotic (it's football), and the second is ridiculous (TB has already been shut out once this year). I can't imagine the TB players wanted to claim a "moral victory" of avoiding a shutout with a meaningless 27-yd FG. That's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 how much better is a low-percentage meaningless touchdown over a high percentage meaningless field goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 how much better is a low-percentage meaningless touchdown over a high percentage meaningless field goal? 856040[/snapback] Did TB need FG practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Did TB need FG practice? 856045[/snapback] Now if it was Dallas, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Its not idiotic. There is no chance at winning, just get the game over with and escape without anymore injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Bills Fan Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 It's You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 TB is down 20-0 and has a 4th down at the PIT 10 with 5 seconds to go. He kicks a FG. Is it me, or is that one of the lamest decisions a coach can make? 856013[/snapback] I agree with you....it's a bit like hoping we lose games to get a better pick, the momentum from winning.....or in this case the experience of continuing to strive for victory regardless of the odds, is far more important IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 The first part of your response is idiotic (it's football) 856028[/snapback] You cant be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 many coaches would go for a TD. the last thing on thier minds should be a shutout. to simply kick a fg to prevent a shutout shows a coach who gave up, and started thinking about next week long before the game was over. i lost a lot of respect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjsbu96 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 if you ever read Gregg Easterbrook he loves bringing up these sort of scenarios and in his estimation he strongly believes it is a coach simply looking for a way to "look better" in defeat. If they don't convert the TD chances are they get shutout, so instead they take the figgie therefore nobody can claim they got shutout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudsonValleyBillsFan Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Gutter is a tool TB is down 20-0 and has a 4th down at the PIT 10 with 5 seconds to go. He kicks a FG. Is it me, or is that one of the lamest decisions a coach can make? 856013[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Is it me, or is that one of the lamest decisions a coach can make? 856013[/snapback] Did he waste two timeouts, trying to figure it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 It's not like there was a tiny, slim chance they might have pulled it out. If there's a minute left, you can pretend you might nab two quick onside kicks and hail marys. It's going to the be the last play of the game either way. It doesn't fugging matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 He should have punted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 how much better is a low-percentage meaningless touchdown over a high percentage meaningless field goal? 856040[/snapback] About 4 points better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 May be he has a clause in his contract that if he has 2 shutouts in a season, then he would lose his salary for the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 May be he has a clause in his contract that if he has 2 shutouts in a season, then he would lose his salary for the year 856767[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Just an FYI, I thought it was interesting......... http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/TB/9851812 Bucs' last-play FG first to stop shutout since '1933 NFL.com wire reports PITTSBURGH (Dec. 5, 2006) -- At least the Tampa Bay Buccaneers came away from Pittsburgh with a little sliver of NFL history. According to research by the Steelers, Matt Bryant 's 27-yard field goal that concluded Pittsburgh's 20-3 victory Dec. 3 was the first such game-ending kick to break up an NFL shutout in 73 years. The Steelers franchise also was involved in the previous such game. During Pittsburgh's first NFL season in 1933, Pirates kicker Christian "Mose" Kelsch kicked a 21-yard field goal on the final play to secure a 3-3 tie with the Brooklyn Dodgers at Ebbets Field. The Steelers were known as the Pirates until 1940. Bucs coach Jon Gruden said he kicked the meaningless field goal so rookie quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, who grew up in Pittsburgh, would come away with something positive from his first NFL game there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Bucs coach Jon Gruden said he kicked the meaningless field goal so rookie quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, who grew up in Pittsburgh, would come away with something positive from his first NFL game there. 858913[/snapback] Good for Chuckie. His press conferences are generally pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Bucs coach Jon Gruden said he kicked the meaningless field goal so rookie quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, who grew up in Pittsburgh, would come away with something positive from his first NFL game there. 858913[/snapback] What would be positive about that? Did Gradkowski kick the FG? Or that he was unable to move the Bucs in scoring position until there was 5 seconds left in the game? Good Job Brad...you helped us Score 3 points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 What would be positive about that? Did Gradkowski kick the FG? Or that he was unable to move the Bucs in scoring position until there was 5 seconds left in the game? Good Job Brad...you helped us Score 3 points... 858923[/snapback] He would be positive his poor play was the fault of his coach and that he doesn't have a reason to be nearly as discouraged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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