UConn James Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 My soon-to-be sister-in-law's mother was here from the West Coast and we all went to dinner tonight, so I only caught the last 15 minutes. But, this is a teevee show, and I'd rather have something of a life that's not scheduled around Wednesdays at 9.... And no, don't have tivo, don't even have cable. Came in at the point where Rose was at the healer Isaac (Was it just me, the accent, or do all Aussies look the same, but that wasn't the guy who turned Kate in, was it?). He said that there was something in the ground --- geological, magnetic, who knows --- there that could heal people. Didn't work for Rose. Do the link, the island has these things. And she knew that Locke had been in a wheelchair..... Question for people here --- how many of you would stay on the island if it meant you were healed? Is that why the Others stay? Is that why they Michael is back. Says the Others are relatively unarmed and that they can be beaten. Cue on Sawyer to get the guns..... Question: Is this CrazyBizarroMichael who's brokered a deal to get Walt back, ala Rousseau? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 and the posts of "this was the best episode ever" in 3....2....1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 My soon-to-be sister-in-law's mother was here from the West Coast and we all went to dinner tonight, so I only caught the last 15 minutes. But, this is a teevee show, and I'd rather have something of a life that's not scheduled around Wednesdays at 9.... And no, don't have tivo, don't even have cable. Came in at the point where Rose was at the healer Isaac (Was it just me, the accent, or do all Aussies look the same, but that wasn't the guy who turned Kate in, was it?). He said that there was something in the ground --- geological, magnetic, who knows --- there that could heal people. Didn't work for Rose. Do the link, the island has these things. And she knew that Locke had been in a wheelchair..... Question for people here --- how many of you would stay on the island if it meant you were healed? Is that why the Others stay? Is that why they Michael is back. Says the Others are relatively unarmed and that they can be beaten. Cue on Sawyer to get the guns..... Question: Is this CrazyBizarroMichael who's brokered a deal to get Walt back, ala Rousseau? 660605[/snapback] You actually didn't miss much -- it was a slow (but good, not BEST Madcap ) episode. Basically we learned about Rose and Bernard: Backstory They met and fell in love in less than 5 months. Before agreeing to marry him, she told him that she was sick and had a year to live. For their honeymoon they went to the Outback to see the healer...(you caught the rest). Island Story: Bernard was all about getting off the island in the beginning by building a giant sign to be seen from above. He organized people to do it, but Rose undercut him by saying he was giving people "false hope" (something we have heard Jack say to his dad in recent flashbacks). The whole "sign" idea fell apart when Bernard started to lose it by pushing people too hard. Other Stories From the Ep: Jack / Kate: Jack told Gale he was going to go to the "line" and demand a trade for Walt. (He reiterated the "plan" that Henry told him and Locke which makes me believe, from a writing standpoint, they are setting us up and Michael is indeed a "plant" -- but more on that in a sec). Jack said he wants Walt back to which Gale replied: "They will never give up Walt". Anna said she would go with Jack to the "line" but he wanted her to stay in the hatch with Gale and Locke. She told him ont to go alone, so he invited Kate to come with. While traveling to the line, Jack and Kate get stuck in a Roussou trap and have a sexual/flirty fight about how to get out. They do (quite easily) and on the walk Kate tells Jack about the "costumes" and what she found in the other hatch. Locke: Locke spent the episode trying to redraw the map he saw on the door but was unsuccessful. He also asked Henry (through the door of the vault since Anna wouldn't open it without the gun -- which she gave to Jack) if Henry "really pushed the button". Henry didn't respond, but just smiled. To which, Locke hobbled out of the hatch and spent the rest of the time on the beach sulking until Rose told him that she knew his leg would be healed soon...so Locke knows that Rose knows he was in a wheelchair. Other tidbits: -We found out for sure that Eko and Charlie are indeed building a church (no shock) - We found out there is a "lava" field nearby (hence all the black rocks) - We confirmed that the island does indeed "heal" people. Other interesting bits to consider: 1) The relevance of the "black rocks". Thinking back throuhgout the show, the Black Rocks are a reoccuring element. From the rocks "Adam and Eve" had on their bodies when they first found the caves, to the backgammon games, to Claire's dreams, to the Ship (Roussou calling it the "black rock" when it's not the ship's name at all, it is just RESTING on a black rock), to the GIANT black rock Jack stood near at the "line", to the Lava field. The black rocks mean something... 2) It's obvious the "others" want specific people. They had a list for the Tailies. They wanted Walt. And Jack made it a point to show that they didn't much want: Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Sayid or Locke because they had many opportunities to take them. So, if Michael is indeed a "plant" (as in, they release him and tell him if he brings them X amount of people -- he will get Walt), who will he choose? Hurley? Libby? Rose? Just food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 1) The relevance of the "black rocks". Thinking back throuhgout the show, the Black Rocks are a reoccuring element. From the rocks "Adam and Eve" had on their bodies when they first found the caves, to the backgammon games, to Claire's dreams, to the Ship (Roussou calling it the "black rock" when it's not the ship's name at all, it is just RESTING on a black rock), to the GIANT black rock Jack stood near at the "line", to the Lava field. The black rocks mean something... 660632[/snapback] Of course, the relevance of that could simply be that they're filming in Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Of course, the relevance of that could simply be that they're filming in Hawaii. 660639[/snapback] Absolutley could be. And I'm not saying they have a purpose (or are a larger part of the mystery of the island) -- but at the very least they have some sort of thematic value that I am not seeing... ...of course your theory could be 100 percent correct too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 So what do you think about Michael showing up again? I'd watch him for the heel turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 So what do you think about Michael showing up again? I'd watch him for the heel turn. 660649[/snapback] Honestly, from a pure writing standpoint -- there was a reason Jack repeated EXACTLY what Henry told he and Locke a few episodes ago about arranging a trade. Why? In my mind the writers did it to REMIND us about that plan. And what we are going to find out is that the "Others" planted Henry there to get them to try that plan. But instead of giving up Walt (which they said they never would), then they give them a trojan horse in Michael. Like I said in my above post, I think there are other "special" people that the "others" want. Namely Aaron and possibley Hurley. So they get Michael to lead the "chosen ones" to fight the "under manned others" but it's a trap. Just a hunch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 then they give them a trojan horse in Michael. 660653[/snapback] Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I see that as being the cliffhanger for the season finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 One thing I'd like to add, but I can't recall exactly what was said. While out on their trek to 'the line', Kate said something to Jack about being 'not good & safe' or something. Made me think about how the others were only interested it 'good' people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodBye Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I know I don't post here very much but I love reading these Lost threads. You guys pick up a lot more than I do when I watch the show so it's cool to come here and read what you guys have to say about the show. Keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Okat, prolly really lame and old thinking, but i'm starting to get the theme of the island as the healing force. Almost all of the main characters are starting to or have started to heal their wounds. Rose and Locke physical ailments, charlie kicked the drugs, Hurley wouldn't take the food last night, Micheal recconnected with walt, Jin and Sun pregnant and happy again,Eko building his church as "there are other ways to be saved" criminy, even sawyer was nice to vincent last night. Now, i guess i need some help with Jack and Kate and how they have started the healing process. Post more as I steal other ideas from other boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Now, i guess i need some help with Jack and Kate and how they have started the healing process. Post more as I steal other ideas from other boards 660749[/snapback] Jack and Kate's healing process might be finding each other ie love. As Kate seemed stuck on the fact she killed the man that she loved so much (the miniature airplane) where conversly Jack saved the life of the woman he loved so much who left him for (pun not intended) an other (wouldn't it be ironic if it turns out to be Zeke?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 (wouldn't it be ironic if it turns out to be Zeke?). 660808[/snapback] No. I think the word you're looking for is stupid. Sorry bro just had to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 No. I think the word you're looking for is stupid.Sorry bro just had to do it. 660828[/snapback] No worries, though I wouldn't be surprised with all things connected, that the one that Jack's wife left him for has some connection to the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Now, i guess i need some help with Jack and Kate and how they have started the healing process. 660749[/snapback] Both getting over the debilitating guilt that they were responsible for their father / stepfather's deaths would be my guess. Same with Anna Lucia and maybe Sawyer. The island heals emotional as well as physical problems, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 No worries, though I wouldn't be surprised with all things connected, that the one that Jack's wife left him for has some connection to the island. 660830[/snapback] That topic came up in the discussion after the episode where Jack's wifey-poo leaves him. It would be extrememly LAME for someone on the island to be that guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 That topic came up in the discussion after the episode where Jack's wifey-poo leaves him. It would be extrememly LAME for someone on the island to be that guy.... 660908[/snapback] ...and how do we know she left him for a guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 ...and how do we know she left him for a guy? 660942[/snapback] If she left him for kate that would kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Do you think the scene of the car stuck in the snow happened in Buffalo? Nice shot of Niagara Falls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Do you think the scene of the car stuck in the snow happened in Buffalo? Nice shot of Niagara Falls... 660960[/snapback] I'd assume not because Rose seemed so taken with the Falls. I don't think if she lived in Buffalo that she'd still have that amazement, but who the hell knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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