ExiledInIllinois Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 The deterrent is the unknown... Follow through and that unknown MAY become managable with the fear being gone or weakened. Follow through, then ease up... Even worse then doing nothing in the first place. Just my opinion... Quite a game of "chicken" and perception... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 you know, you're right. If we have nuclear weapons, its only fair that they can have them too. Being fait is the most important thing, and thats the Government's job- to make sure that the world is fair and equitable to everybody. screw that- lets keep ourselves safe, and if thats unfair to someone else, thats just too bad. 665020[/snapback] Your reply has little to do with my post. There are plenty of reasons why attacking Iran is not a good idea, quite apart from whether Iran having nuclear weapons is "fair" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 If you are doing your job correctly, you will never have to show all your cards AND GET YOUR ACHIEVED GOAL. You look at Iraq... And say, my dear God... Why have we been this stupid. I am glad this admin isn't raising my kids... My kids would have no fear at all... Do you actually think people fear the US? Is this the best we can throw at 'em? If anything, we have hardened their will to fight. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 About as much as I trust the Chinese, Pakistanis, or North Koreans, and we're not doing much about them. But as long as Israel has nukes, it seems unfair to deny them to Muslim states to allow them to have a MAD deterrent. We should call for a nuclear free Middle East. 659454[/snapback] I see no reason to be fair. Not with nuclear weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 If you are doing your job correctly, you will never have to show all your cards AND GET YOUR ACHIEVED GOAL. You look at Iraq... And say, my dear God... Why have we been this stupid. I am glad this admin isn't raising my kids... My kids would have no fear at all... Do you actually think people fear the US? Is this the best we can throw at 'em? If anything, we have hardened their will to fight. IMO 665233[/snapback] That's because we're not ruthless enough. You can only inspire fear if you're willing to do the unspeakable. Since we're too senstive about actually KILLING people in wars anymore, i don't see that happening. Think about what we did to Germany. We literally burned MAJOR cultural centers like Hamburg and Dresden to the ground. Complete annihilation. If you wanted to stop this insurgency, it could be done. But it sure as hell would be ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Every freakin' "Left Coast" day The things we do for domestic "bliss" 661669[/snapback] As a person who has been up there for 12 straight years, I can tell you that WNY is not the same without you, and I am dead friggin serious. Btw, it will be the pats or the pack this year. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 That's because we're not ruthless enough. You can only inspire fear if you're willing to do the unspeakable. Since we're too senstive about actually KILLING people in wars anymore, i don't see that happening. Think about what we did to Germany. We literally burned MAJOR cultural centers like Hamburg and Dresden to the ground. Complete annihilation. If you wanted to stop this insurgency, it could be done. But it sure as hell would be ugly. 666765[/snapback] You will never instill fear into the irrational mind Joe... No matter what you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 You can never instill fear into the irrational mind Joe... No matter what you do? 669032[/snapback] I'd say the nazi regime was fairly irrational. Once their citites were razed,t hey sure changed their philosophy quickly, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I'd say the nazi regime was fairly irrational. Once their citites were razed,t hey sure changed their philosophy quickly, no? 669033[/snapback] No, they didn't. That's part of the reason they were irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 No, they didn't. That's part of the reason they were irrational. 669035[/snapback] post war? Nazism was pretty easily renounced even by party members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I'd say the nazi regime was fairly irrational. Once their citites were razed,t hey sure changed their philosophy quickly, no? 669033[/snapback] The German people were pretty rational... That is why they should have tried 'em all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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